Did you not read the part where I openly stated to merely be taking the OP question extremely literally as a joke??
Are you incapable of reading??
My post has nothing to do with anything
spiritual. It was just a very literal answer to the question of the OP:
"Does anyone have a convincing argument for the existence of a non material reality?"
Yes, yes, yes, OP
meant something else entirely, but what he literally
wrote as the title had nothing to do with spiritual versus physical, and so I was playing with that by giving my answer. I find it humorous to take things overly-literally and give literal answers sometimes.
And I find it even more humorous when idiots think I'm making some stand on the existence of spiritual things when I'm
only taking a stand on the existence of "non material" things.
It was a joke, not an argument for the existence of the spiritual. It was
never an argument for the existence of the spiritual.
You have to
pretend and play
make believe that my post was arguing for the existence of the spiritual in order to argue against it, which is hilarious!!
That's a sign of weakness in your own position, I would think, if you have to pretend my position is
something I never once stated it was to pretend you can win some sort of intellectual debate, when instead you're obsessively arguing a with a joke because you don't want to admit you didn't get it.
Here:
Light and Matter
Part of me wonders why I bother to keep posting links to
basic physics lessons because you will continue to not read them.
Light isn't matter. That's all there is too it. I've posted several links to educational material that covers this very topic, but you are too lazy to read that, instead you insist
without evidence whatsoever that light
is matter because you
feel that it is.
You're no different than someone insisting that the spiritual reality is real because
they feel it is.
Because that makes it ...
non-material.
Again:
Gee, now was the question I was responding too about
physical reality or
material reality.
Hmmmmmm...
"Does anyone have a convincing argument for the existence of a non material reality?"
Oh right.
Looks like you're desperately and
dishonestly trying to shift the goalposts to prove to yourself that you have won this debate
against a joke.
You can't argue against my position (again, a position I made jokingly) of "Energy is non-material."
Because you can't argue against it, you instead have to
pretend my position was completely serious and that my position was "Energy is non-physical and is spiritual".
Stop lying.
You do. Or did you forget it was
you who decided to argue with me that it
was matter?!
I think you realized after my last post that
whoops, I'm right, and that energy is not matter, because I posted evidence to back that claim up, and now you're trying to shift the goalposts and claim "Who cares?" and pretend that my position is something else completely.
I dare you to find
one instance of me using "spiritual" in this thread before this post!
It's not there, because my (joke) position had
nothing to do with the question of spiritual existence.
I'm sure you find some comfort in believing that my position is one of physical versus spiritual (words I
never used before you accused me of holding that position) and thinking that you're smart because you can defeat a strawman in place of myself.
Of course I am. I have a dishonest scoundrel lying about me!! You lie about my position, fight a strawman and declare you have defeated me, and then are
~surprised~ that someone might loose their cool and become a little more hostile to you in turn??
Why should I not take the gloves off in the face of someone lying about me?? I'm going all in now.
You are a fundamentally dishonest person.
You tried to argue with a joke using a misunderstanding of science.
When your misunderstanding of science was called out, you were scared of being perceived as not as smart as you think you are, and so you quickly replaced the joke position you were trying to argue against with a strawman, and "defeated" that strawman to try to sound all smart.
You're understanding of E=mc^2 leaves out the part of the equation that deals with non-material things like photons, and you are
too much of a coward to argue against this point because it deals with hard science, instead
you ignore this point completely in order to argue that "light is matter because I feel like it acts like matter would".
If you are
not any of what I just said above, then I ask the following two simple things be done:
1. Address my argument and evidence against your limited understanding of E=mc^2 and give some evidence (beyond how you feel that matter should act) to back that up, OR admit I was correct and you were mistaken about the nature of photons (which are wave/particles, not matter).
2. Find
any evidence of me in this thread arguing for the existence of
spiritual anything and present it, OR admit you were incorrect and that I never did such a thing and that you strawmanned me. You don't have to admit that you lied about my position, you may also admit to simply having assumed my position from a point of ignorance.
If these two things are not done in your next reply, I will assume that you yourself
know that you are wrong and just don't want to admit it. Because if you are right, then it should be easy to find some textbook example showing I'm wrong about E = mc^2. And if you really aren't strawmanning me, then you should be able to easily find some evidence of me arguing for the spiritual in this thread.
If you are honest and correct, it is an easy matter to address those two things. If you are honest and incorrect, it should be easy to admit that. However, if you are a dishonest person, then I am guessing you will admit that fact through failing to address either 1 or 2.
