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Does Anyone Think That Joe Biden Might Be The Next Politician Accursed Of Sexual Misconduct

tytlyf

Not Religious
It’s not even false equivalence. It’s simple distraction. No one’s accused Biden of anything. But let’s talk about whether we think Biden will eventually be accused rather than the super creepy Alabaman Republican guy running for Senate that’s already been accused by like 30 women.
That's how propaganda works. Being able to imply something without saying it.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I'm saying we all enjoy the right to the presumption of innocence in this country.
An election is not the same as a court of law, thus we vote on whom we believe more on issues and conduct that we believe in.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
A dozen women accused the Trump of sexual harassment prior to the election. Drive-by media doesn't talk about that.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
An election is not the same as a court of law, thus we vote on whom we believe more on issues and conduct that we believe in.

I understand and agree with you (that's right, I agree with you). This is why I believe you should be very careful in weighting the alleged against the known when it comes to any candidate.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
A dozen women accused the Trump of sexual harassment prior to the election. Drive-by media doesn't talk about that.

Are you serious? If there were any substance in the accusations Drive-by media would be having a feast.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
This is why I believe you should be very careful in weighting the alleged against the known when it comes to any candidate.
I always am.

In the case of Trump, the women's accusations become very plausible based on what Trump admitted himself with his bragging about groping women, forcibly kissing women, his affairs, his committing adultery, his persistent lies, etc. Do you honestly believe he is more credible then they? Really?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
When he said "I can...", along with what else he said in that same exact recording, I would say it's pretty much a done deal. Either way, why would anyone who is trying to evaluate these things fairly believe him over them? How many immoral things does Trump have to say and do before even the "blind" can see?
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I always am.

In the case of Trump, the women's accusations become very plausible based on what Trump admitted himself with his bragging about groping women, forcibly kissing women, his affairs, his committing adultery, his persistent lies, etc. Do you honestly believe he is more credible then they? Really?

But, again, there is no one with any credibility accusing Trump of harassment let alone sexual assault.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
When he said "I can...", along with what else he said in that same exact recording, I would say it's pretty much a done deal. Either way, why would anyone who is trying to evaluate these things fairly believe him over them? How many immoral things does Trump have to say and do before even the "blind" can see?
Again what has he "did". Not what he "said".
I call that locker room bravado and uncouth.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Again what has he "did". Not what he "said".
I call that locker room bravado and uncouth.
We should all recognize that there's a vast continuum between the extremes....
The worst: Bill Clinton raping Kathleen Willey.
The least: Bill O'Neill bragging about bedding 50 women.
The handling of each should be on a case by case basis.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
If conservatives had heard the access Hollywood tapes and it was coming out of Biden's mouth, they would have taken it as a confession of prior behavior instead of going with option 2: it's just locker room talk guys. Which is one of the sleaziest things I've seen come out of this election cycle, guys brag about sexually assaulting women it's just how guys work. Give me a break.

So my answer is probably when the conservative party acknowledges that their pick has admitted to sexual misconduct.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
I meant anyone, not specifically this thread or even the forum. I don't care how loyal someone is to their party, an ethical line should always be drawn. This goes for any Dems too who would brush any serious misdeeds of their favored politicians under the rug.

Sure, if they are serious.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
Sounds more like "annoyance".
"Harassment" connotes some continuation.

I think, for them, the problem is they don't see it as one instance from one guy, but a continuance of the behavior they deal with all the time from a variety of men. Thus they view it as harassment.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
False equivalence comparing Franken to Roy Moore.
Fool!
Fiddlediddler!
I made no comparison there.
I've even pointed out how Moore is worse.

Is there any leftish person who understands what "false equivalence" means?
Just a vapid battle cry, eh.
 
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