Does Anyone Think That Joe Biden Might Be The Next Politician Accursed Of Sexual Misconduct

[Enoch07]

And you honestly see that as sexual harassment? Really? Do you know where the location of a woman's breasts and genitalia are located?

Oh, like Franken on the Democratic side and Trump & Moore on the Republican side? Gee, which one of these men admitted it and said he should be investigate whereas the other two have not (except in a secret recording)? Hmmmmmmm?

Sexual harassment can be just words. And by the looks of it, he was saying some nasty stuff! Investigate them all I say! I'd wager not many politicians male or female would still have jobs if we investigated all!

 

[Enoch07]

I guess you missed the whole Al Franken thing that happened yesterday?

Nope, but let's see how it pans out. Bill Clinton got forgiven awfully quick!

 

[metis]

And by the looks of it, he was saying some nasty stuff!

How could you possibly tell that? And what about your support of Trump?

 

[Cobol]

With the current sexual misconduct charges starting to appear at regular intervals do you think the Joe Biden might become the next target. We have all seen the pictures of "Uncle Joe" in situations that some might consider "inappropriate". Heck even now we have those that think what President Clinton did should have been looked at more closely, and some of them are even Democrats.
Just one small example

or maybe two

Why bother starting such a stupid thread like this, unless you want reactions that lead to arguments, not debates, arguments!! Fairly obvious IMO

 

[Enoch07]

How could you possibly tell that? And what about your support of Trump?

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By the cringe factor on the poor girls face. She looks like she's freaking out! It doesn't take a body language expert to be able to identify her thoughts by that video. She is obviously repulsed and scared!

 

[SkepticThinker]

Nope, but let's see how it pans out. Bill Clinton got forgiven awfully quick!

Really? Last time I checked, people are still talking about it.

Kirsten Gillibrand came out yesterday and said that he should have resigned.

 

[Underhill]

No woman has ever complained about me being "handsy"-- at least as far as I know of. The only experience I had with "handsy" is when someone groped me many years ago. Another women kept rubbing her boobs against me when no one was looking, and maybe that also should be classified as "sexual harassment"? Probably, I guess. And another one kissed me when my wife wasn't looking and wanted me to go out with her to the back of her house with her, so is that "sexual harassment"? Probably so since I did nothing to invite it.

BTW, is Trump "handsy"? Can the Trump supporters here even get close to being honest enough to admit what Trump himself secretly confessed? Hey, they say "honesty is the best policy", but some people are apparently rather slow on learning this or they just don't really care.

Perhaps this should be another thread entirely, but sincerely... what is the difference between flirting and harassment?

Because here is my problem with the whole situation. Both men and women enjoy the former right up until they don't. There really isn't a line that one can point to. It often boils down to who is doing the "flirting" right? Which seems like a form of discrimination to me. Is it right that a woman invites flirting from a handsome man but when a homely individual does the same they act disgusted and label is harassment?

We had this discussion at lunch today and my first reaction was to laugh it off, but the more I think on it, the more I think the man had a serious point.

 

[Enoch07]

Perhaps this should be another thread entirely, but sincerely... what is the difference between flirting and harassment?

Hard to tell anymore. I suggest printing many copies of sexual consent forms that you will need you have signed by any potential sexual partners. You'll need a witness to sign and have it notarized before any encounter can begin. Some say this some of the heat out of a romance, but it's better than having your life ruined.

 

[metis]

By the cringe factor on the poor girls face. She looks like she's freaking out! It doesn't take a body language expert to be able to identify her thoughts by that video. She is obviously repulsed and scared!

Wow, that's quite a leap. Did you ever stop and think that maybe she's just surprised?

And I notice that you refused to answer my question about Trump, so I guess you've pretty well established just how far your own moral outrage goes.

 

[Revoltingest]

No woman has ever complained about me being "handsy"-- at least as far as I know of.

Since you broached the subject....there's that RF
Halloween party where you thought I was a girly.
A kilt does not mean "yes".

But to your point, there appears to be a big gender based difference in perception.
Gals experience "unwanted" touching. Often traumatic.
Guys experience "unexpected" touching. Seldom traumatic.

Note: The above does not apply to every case.
It's just a trend..a loose generalization.
So don't go off the deep end being offended.

 

[metis]

Perhaps this should be another thread entirely, but sincerely... what is the difference between flirting and harassment?

I don't think there's any magic formula to determine that, but personally I think a lot is in the form of "intent" and the form of "repulsing". By the latter, I mean that the minute someone gives indication that they don't want to be "hit on", then that should stop the flirting dead in its tracks.

 

[Revoltingest]

Perhaps this should be another thread entirely, but sincerely... what is the difference between flirting and harassment?

Flirting can become harassment when it's rejected repeatedly, yet it continues.
When is it harassment? This would be largely based upon how the recipient
reacts....if continued after being informed it's creepy...then it's harassment.
I've seen examples of this. This seems a cromulent boundary.

 

[Underhill]

I don't think there's any magic formula to determine that, but personally I think a lot is in the form of "intent" and the form of "repulsing". By the latter, I mean that the minute someone gives indication that they don't want to be "hit on", then that should stop the flirting dead in its tracks.

I would agree with that. But many of the things I see people talking about are that first attempt...

Your first line is where the problem lies. There is no magic formula. I think most men think they do not harass women. But as the line varies from women to women and time to time...

 

[Underhill]

Flirting can become harassment when it's rejected repeatedly, yet it continues.
When is it harassment? This would be largely based upon how the recipient
reacts....if continued after being informed it's creepy...then it's harassment.
I've seen examples of this. It seems a cromulent boundary.

I think that is obvious. The question is when does it begin? I've seen women complain about guys calling them "good looking" at the gas station. Bad taste, yes. Harassment?

 

[Enoch07]

And I notice that you refused to answer my question about Trump, so I guess you've pretty well established just how far your own moral outrage goes.

I didn't refuse anything. There is just nothing to say about it. I didn't support him as a candidate, and so certainly didn't vote for him. I just think it's hilarious that he makes some people so mad.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think that is obvious. The question is when does it begin? I've seen women complain about guys calling them "good looking" at the gas station. Bad taste, yes. Harassment?

Sounds more like "annoyance".
"Harassment" connotes some continuation.

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

So all the pictures posted here of Joe Biden, show me a man with a heart for and a love of people in general.
I see nothing wrong, since Jesus asks us to be like that.
We could all use a little more love for our fellow humans, instead of the hate shown by so many in politics today.

 

[Quetzal]

President Clinton did should have been looked at more closely

I can think of another president who should have been looked at more closely.

 

[metis]

I just think it's hilarious that he makes some people so mad.

Well, all too much of his behavior and words might just cause some people to be concerned enough to be angry and also worried about where we're going as a country. Frankly, I don't find that as being "hilarious".

 

[BSM1]

First of all, when I see some here actually being honest enough to admit that Trump did admit to sexual harassment, then I guess we could take the OP in without laughing at who put it there.

Secondly, going by the "standards" of the OP, I would be in a ton of trouble because I became that kind of touchy-feely guy that Biden appears to be, but I never molested or forced myself on any women. My wife was borne and raised in Italy and they're typically very much that way, and it rubbed off on me-- literally.

But to those whom are cold, yes what Joe and I do would seem to be a "crime".

Who did Trump admit to sexually harassing?