• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Does Atheism Lead to Immoral Behavior?

We Never Know

No Slack
There are fornication clubs? I had no idea, never heard of it, that's terrible. You have an address?

You're welcome lol

IMG_20230409_114902.jpg
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The atheist doctrine that life invented itself isn't critical thinking.
ROFL! "Atheist doctrine"...."life invented itself!"
The delusion that life invented itself isn't at all convincing.
How is abiogenesis a delusion? You're misdefining "delusion."
Not convincing? I suspect you don't know the first thing about current hypotheses or research.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
By their fruits one can distinguish human self-will from Gods will. The 9-11 hijackers concept of God was a reflection of their own image. They were rationalizing, listening to their own hatred.

You don't even believe in Jesus so our complaints are hypocritical.



The atheist doctrine that life invented itself isn't critical thinking.
The observations that:
  • life is essentially chemistry,
  • chemistry arises from the laws of physics, and
  • physics is the result of quantum mechanics
are, however, quite rational thinking.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
why-some-people-engage-in-consistently-unethical-behavior.jpg

I'd suppose this depends on what you view as moral behavior but I thought I'd ask the question to see what people would say.

It is easy to justify one's personal morals but I'd like you to consider the world at large. Is the world becoming more moral or less moral?

And, does this have anything to do with the decline of religious belief?
Yes, when I lost my faith, I suddenly felt the irresistible need to turn into Hannibal the Cannibal.

ciao

- viole
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
The observations that:
  • life is essentially chemistry,
  • chemistry arises from the laws of physics, and
  • physics is the result of quantum mechanics
are, however, quite rational thinking.
“The mechanistic philosopher professes to reject the idea of a universal and sovereign will, the very sovereign will whose activity in the elaboration of universe laws he so deeply reverences. What unintended homage the mechanist pays the law-Creator when he conceives such laws to be self-acting and self-explanatory!” UB 1955
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
ROFL! "Atheist doctrine"...."life invented itself!"

How is abiogenesis a delusion? You're misdefining "delusion."
Not convincing? I suspect you don't know the first thing about current hypotheses or research.
The claim that primitive life forms kept falling uphill into more complex forms as an unplanned, unaided phenomenon.

“ To science God is a possibility, to psychology a desirability, to philosophy a probability, to religion a certainty, an actuality of religious experience. Reason demands that a philosophy which cannot find the God of probability should be very respectful of that religious faith which can and does find the God of certitude. Neither should science discount religious experience on grounds of credulity, not so long as it persists in the assumption that man’s intellectual and philosophic endowments emerged from increasingly lesser intelligences the further back they go, finally taking origin in primitive life which was utterly devoid of all thinking and feeling.” UB 1955
 
Last edited:

F1fan

Veteran Member
“The mechanistic philosopher professes to reject the idea of a universal and sovereign will, the very sovereign will whose activity in the elaboration of universe laws he so deeply reverences. What unintended homage the mechanist pays the law-Creator when he conceives such laws to be self-acting and self-explanatory!” UB 1955
The claim the primitive life forms kept falling uphill into more complex forms as an unplanned, unaided phenomenon.

“ To science God is a possibility, to psychology a desirability, to philosophy a probability, to religion a certainty, an actuality of religious experience. Reason demands that a philosophy which cannot find the God of probability should be very respectful of that religious faith which can and does find the God of certitude. Neither should science discount religious experience on grounds of credulity, not so long as it persists in the assumption that man’s intellectual and philosophic endowments emerged from increasingly lesser intelligences the further back they go, finally taking origin in primitive life which was utterly devoid of all thinking and feeling.” UB 1955
The Urantia Book is not a credible source. I have one myself and read through many parts of it. Wow, different colored aliens from other planets? Aweson idea for a movie script, not science. If you get your science from religious books your beliefs will be wrong and irrelevant. You're on a forum with well-educated people, so you need to refer to reliable and valid sources to make your posts. If you knew science you would have to post anything because you would be well-educated yourself.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
The Urantia Book is not a credible source. I have one myself and read through many parts of it. Wow, different colored aliens from other planets? Aweson idea for a movie script, not science. If you get your science from religious books your beliefs will be wrong and irrelevant. You're on a forum with well-educated people, so you need to refer to reliable and valid sources to make your posts. If you knew science you would have to post anything because you would be well-educated yourself.
I will rely on spiritual and philosophical sources of my own choice. Atheists certainly aren’t reliable sources for spiritual truth.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
All very well in theory, but clearly a problem in practice.
Violence due to sexual rivalry is common.
And that's due cultures of prohibitive regulation, sexual domination and competition. It's the tabu, not the sex, that's causing the problems. Change the culture and rules; eliminate the need for rivalry, and the violence will disappear.

If competition, jealousy and violent rivalry were pan-cultural, then the many negative effects of promiscuous or premarital sex you've pointed out would be universal. But they're not.

Not all cultures are like ours. Not all cultures equate nudity with sex; not all discourage or stigmatize premarital sex. Sexual jealousy and rivalries are not universal problems.

Don't judge other cultures by your own. If you want to solve a social problem, look to a society where it doesn't exist, and see how they've dealt with it. You need not re-invent the wheel. just copy.
 
Top