Does Christmas have anything to do with Christ?

[`mud]

"Who place these “True Christians” into the body of Christ?.......
but by the Holy Spirit"
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I believe that Jesus existed and was a 'rabbi' of sorts.
And I believe He preached to those that would listen.
I believe that He was crucified and was buried behind a stone.
But I have a difficult problem with picturing flesh arising to any entity in the sky.
And of course, I can't believe anyone could be placed inside the flesh of anyone, or God, or Jesus.
No matter what the Holy Spirit wants.
Mythology and smoke in mirrors.
~
'mud

 

[MikeSavage]

"Who place these “True Christians” into the body of Christ?.......
but by the Holy Spirit"
~
I believe that Jesus existed and was a 'rabi' of sorts.
And I believe He preached to those that would listen.
I believe that He was crucified and was buried behind a stone.
But I have a difficult problem with picturing flesh arising to any entity in the sky.
And of course, I can't believe anyone could be placed inside the flesh of anyone, or God, or Jesus.
No matter what the Holy Spirit wants.
Mythology and smoke in mirrors.
~
'mud

Your choice of course to believe anything you want. Your belief, however, doesn't make a thing true or untrue. Studying the scriptures, not just reading them, can be VERY enlightening. At least then, you might know the truth, instead of believing things with no information upon which to base those beliefs. At least without any ACCURATE information anyway.

 

[savagewind]

Your choice of course to believe anything you want. Your belief, however, doesn't make a thing true or untrue. Studying the scriptures, not just reading them, can be VERY enlightening. At least then, you might know the truth, instead of believing things with no information upon which to base those beliefs. At least without any ACCURATE information anyway.

Believing doesn't make a thing true or untrue. That is correct.

 

[`mud]

One point left here.
Is flesh in heaven, are people in that flesh ?
Truth or untruth ?
~
'mud

 

[MikeSavage]

One point left here.
Is flesh in heaven, are people in that flesh ?
Truth or untruth ?
~
'mud

Flesh cannot be in heaven. When the scriptures speak of the only humans to go to heaven, namely the 144,000, it says they will be "transformed" into spirit beings and THEN taken to heaven to co-rule with Jesus, who is King of the Kingdom of the Heavens.

 

[savagewind]

What do you think Mike? Is there anything you believe is true but isn't explicitly mentioned in The Bible?

 

[MikeSavage]

What do you think Mike? Is there anything you believe is true but isn't explicitly mentioned in The Bible?

Regarding what exactly? What is about God, and about the scriptures that I believe, is only in the scriptures.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

 

[Desert Snake]

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I believe that Jesus existed and was a 'rabi' of sorts.

Prove it.

 

[savagewind]

Regarding what exactly? What is about God, and about the scriptures that I believe, is only in the scriptures.

The scripture does not say WHO is the faithful and discreet slave. But you know who it is. Right?

 

[savagewind]

Prove it.

I would say be nice and don't play the atheist game.

 

[MikeSavage]

Prove it.

He doesn't have to "prove" it. You have to prove it to yourself, otherwise, what's the point? Jesus was a teacher, and the word rabbi means teacher. He was the son of God, and he is a propitiatory sacrifice so that the Adamic sin can be wiped away, if we do what is required to make that happen. It's not an automatic thing. It basically eliminated the law covenant, where Israel had to sacrifice animals, and their blood to have sins forgiven.

 

[savagewind]

The Bible does not actually say you will know good people by their fruits. It says you will know bad people by their fruits.

 

[Cephus]

How many times you gonna say "bold empty claim"? Yeah what's next? Please no more "bold empty claim"

Yes, when do you think theists are going to stop making them?

 

[MikeSavage]

The Bible does not actually say you will know good people by their fruits. It says you will know bad people by their fruits.

It says both.

 

[savagewind]

It says both.

Where?

Matthew 7 15"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16"You will know them by their fruits.

 

[Nada]

 

[MikeSavage]

Where?

Matthew 7 15"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16"You will know them by their fruits.

Sorry, I don't have time to do your research for you. Look and you will be able to find it. In fact, study the scriptures front to back, over and over, and you will learn things you haven't imagined.

 

[savagewind]

15 “Be on the watch for the false prophets+ who come to you in sheep’s covering,+ but inside they are ravenous wolves.+16 By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they?+17 Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit.+18 A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit.+19 Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.+20 Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.+

Matthew 7 | Online Bible | New World Translation

Where does it say good people will be recognized by their fruits. Since ALL good gifts and perfect presents come from Jehovah there is no "Their" good fruit. All good fruit is Jehovah's. Not man's.

 

[MikeSavage]

15 “Be on the watch for the false prophets+ who come to you in sheep’s covering,+ but inside they are ravenous wolves.+16 By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they?+17 Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit.+18 A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit.+19 Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.+20 Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men.+

Matthew 7 | Online Bible | New World Translation

Where does it say good people will be recognized by their fruits. Since ALL good gifts and perfect presents come from Jehovah there is no "Their" good fruit. All good fruit is Jehovah's. Not man's.

Read Galations chapter five.