Does empty space exist?

[Jimmy]

I’d have to say no, as I think matter at the quantum level inter penetrates each other leaving no empty space and a material existence set up like this would likely operate at top efficiency. I’ve never read a hypotheses about this so if you know of any, I would appreciate a link. Thanks.

 

[Heyo]

I’d have to say no, as I think matter at the quantum level inter penetrates each other leaving no empty space and a material existence set up like this would likely operate at top efficiency. I’ve never read a hypotheses about this so if you know of any, I would appreciate a link. Thanks.

You may want to look into Quantum fluctuation - Wikipedia and its role in the Casimir effect - Wikipedia.

 

[Jimmy]

Since I think all matter at the quantum level inter penetrates each other leaving no empty space that would suggest that all matter throughout infinite space would end at the same time.

 

[ChristineM]

Since I think all matter at the quantum level inter penetrates each other leaving no empty space that would suggest that all matter throughout infinite space would end at the same time.

You are making wild leaps of clairvoyant faith here.

 

[wellwisher]

If you look at an atom, its occupied space, is mostly filled in by the electrons. This atomic space is often modeled by probability functions of where the electron is, with the electron never being 100% in any given place, at a time; wave and particle. This suggests there is empty space, but in the case of an atom, all that spaces is occupied and not occupied a fraction of the time. That is only for one atom. It we have two atoms of a gas; helium, the space between atoms is even less occupied, but since the probability function still applies it is sometimes occupied, albeit not often.

If matter permeated all of space, you would have an effect similar to omnipresence. This effect would not be part of space-time, but more of an artifact of separated space and separated time, with time=0. If we factor out time, then all probability functions; position in space and time, does not apply. This may be possible at the quantum level, where separated space and separated time would apply.

Say we could travel at the speed of light; Special Relativity, our space-time universe would appear to contract to a point-instant. In this scenario, the matter of the universe will appear to overlap that point in space-time, thereby totally filling space; type of omnipresence. If we were to slow, from the speed of light, space-time will begin to expand making the universe and matter appear to expand, with time or probability gaps, forming within space-time.

If you look at odds of throwing a 6 sided dice, these do no change based on position in space. The odds are the same in Las Vegas as Monte Carlo. Odds are more an artifact in time. We may not get a six with six throws. It can more or less throws, but over a long enough time, there is pattern that can appear that shows equal odds for each side. This is independent of space/place.

 

[Jimmy]

You are making wild leaps of clairvoyant faith here.

Not really, as everything that exists is all matter at the end of the day and to say that it’s all connected through inter penetrations at the quantum level allows for a more fluid existence rather than a rigid one which would be more fragile or susceptible to partial decay.

 

[Jimmy]

If you look at an atom, its occupied space, is mostly filled in by the electrons. This atomic space is often modeled by probability functions of where the electron is, with the electron never being 100% in any given place, at a time; wave and particle. This suggests there is empty space, but in the case of an atom, all that spaces is occupied and not occupied a fraction of the time. That is only for one atom. It we have two atoms of a gas; helium, the space between atoms is even less occupied, but since the probability function still applies it is sometimes occupied, albeit not often.

If matter permeated all of space, you would have an effect similar to omnipresence. This effect would not be part of space-time, but more of an artifact of separated space and separated time, with time=0. If we factor out time, then all probability functions; position in space and time, does not apply. This may be possible at the quantum level, where separated space and separated time would apply.

Say we could travel at the speed of light; Special Relativity, our space-time universe would appear to contract to a point-instant. In this scenario, the matter of the universe will appear to overlap that point in space-time, thereby totally filling space; type of omnipresence. If we were to slow, from the speed of light, space-time will begin to expand making the universe and matter appear to expand, with time or probability gaps, forming within space-time.

I’m aware that science says that there is no matter between the atoms nucleus and its electron but I still think that empty space is made up of quantum matter

 

[Jimmy]

You may want to look into Quantum fluctuation - Wikipedia and its role in the Casimir effect - Wikipedia.

Wild stuff. I read some. I’ll go over more.

 

[ChristineM]

Not really, as everything that exists is all matter at the end of the day and to say that it’s all connected through inter penetrations at the quantum level allows for a more fluid existence rather than a rigid one which would be more fragile or susceptible to partial decay.

It does not allow for energy/matter to decay. It may change to another form of energy /matter but never decay to zero.

Tiz a fundamental law of physics

 

[Jimmy]

It does not allow for energy/matter to decay. It may change to another form of energy /matter but never decay to zero.

Tiz a fundamental law of physics

In another thread, you said that atoms would likely decay after a very long time. I’m receiving two different messages here. So which one do you support?.

 

[ChristineM]

In another thread, you said that atoms would likely decay after a very long time. I’m receiving two different messages here. So which one do you support?.

Decay to atoms of less atomic weight.

Which will.leave the same matter/energy

 

[Jimmy]

Decay to atoms of less atomic weight.

Which will.leave the same matter/energy

I don’t understand how you can think something that was created during the Big Bang will last forever.

 

[ChristineM]

I don’t understand how you can think something that was created during the Big Bang will last forever.

I don't understand how you think it can't.

 

[Jimmy]

I don't understand how you think it can't.

As you know I think existence began around 1979-1980. But I still like to think about science stuff.

 

[ChristineM]

As you know I think existence began around 1979-1980. But I still like to think about science stuff.

Yes, i know, i can't understand that either but it's your belief.