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Does evolution have a purpose?

Does evolution have a purpose

  • yes

    Votes: 17 32.1%
  • no

    Votes: 30 56.6%
  • not sure

    Votes: 6 11.3%

  • Total voters
    53

rational experiences

Veteran Member
In life humans state and believe by behaviour they have dominion over all things.

Even name any state they observe in space just as a Human.

So we know evolution is fake. As a law.

We know DNA of human genetics is mutated. We also are aware we would like it to heal.

Hence awareness of human consciousness knows self advice stated one condition earths atmosphere gas not been allowed to evolve.

Evolve we quote is to add on.

For bio life it is water mass oxygenation at the ground. For our heavens it is returned amassing gas from a saviour....wandering star. Asteroids.

Pressure status is what we wait for.

So we said holy mother womb. Space conditions.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
That's its function, not its purpose. Nor does it perpetuate many species. It alters them to fit a changing environment. If they can't change enough, it kisses them goodbye.

Perhaps we have a different understand of what purpose means, I was using it as I thought it was worded in the question. And I never said it was always successful. However I understand what you're saying and don't disagree.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Does evolution have a purpose?
-If yes what is it?
-If no, why not?

Your question is a philosophical query. Its not a scientific one. Almost a trial of determinism and the marriage of not understanding the variables. What, is not a question that in my perspective can be answered, other than what ever it maybe.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What if the adapting happens before the
environment changes.
Then it wouldn't be adaptation, it would just be a change; a birth defect. Nor would there be any mechanism to spread this spot mutation through the population.
Do you understand how natural selection works; how it selects?
Yet it changes the species before the environment changes.
So is that chance or luck for said species?
Again, a mutation is not evolution or adaptation, it's just a mutation. Actual evolution, within a species, requires selection of a mutation or sexual variation, and its spread through a population to become the dominant form. There are mechanisms that can drive such selection, but they can't operate before there's a variation to select for.
Yet they are changed before the environment changes. If not, they wouldn't survive.
WNK, you'll have to explain this, and maybe give some examples. I can't understand what you're getting at.
Survival. No matter what happens evolution prepares some to survive.
In that some variations are more adaptive within a particular environment than others, yes; but without natural selection of those features immediately useful, within a given environment, what would drive a particular feature to become generalized in the population?
Flood, freeze, meteor, or whatever, evolution prepares some to survive.
Those that survive are prepared to survive before it happens. Or they wouldn't survive.
No, environmental vicissitudes don't select for pre-adapted offspring. What mechanism would account for that?

Normal birth variation or mutation deals the cards. Which are kept or discarded is "decided" after their dealt.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Perhaps we have a different understand of what purpose means, I was using it as I thought it was worded in the question. And I never said it was always successful. However I understand what you're saying and don't disagree.
I was using 'function' in its technical, scientific sense. A biology teacher, for example, wouldn't say "The purpose of the liver is 'X'" He'd say "function."
In a serious discussion like this, you have to be rigorous in your definitions if you want to avoid straw men or avoid talking past each other.;)

Purpose, to me, suggests intentionality; something designed to achieve a preconceived task.
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
It's also a mammal, that lays egg. It feeds it's young milk, but it has no nipples.

Where are your Gods now!?

PS. Crocoduck, can't believe I've never heard them called that before.

Are you aware of the echidna?
They are broadly grouped with the platypus as 'monotremes'.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Does evolution have a purpose?
-If yes what is it?
-If no, why not?

No.

Evolution just happens. It's an inevitable process that occurs whenever you have systems that reproduce with variation and which in competition over limited resources.

There's no "purpose" to it. It's just what inevitably happens in such a setting.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
That's its function, not its purpose. Nor does it perpetuate many species. It alters them to fit a changing environment. If they can't change enough, it kisses them goodbye.

Also, considering 99.99% of species that have ever roamed the earth, are extinct today... following that logic one would have to conclude that it's "purpose" is to kill species instead. :)

Neither is true off course.
Evolution is just an inevitable thing that occurs due to how life works (reproduction with variation and competition with peers over limited resources).
 

Stonetree

Abducted Member
Premium Member
Yet it changes the species before the environment changes.
So is that chance or luck for said species?
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Mutation, the means to natural selection, I assume, is a random process that drives evolution. If the mutation provides an advantage to a life form to survive an environment, evolution takes place.
 
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Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
Does evolution have a purpose?
-If yes what is it?
-If no, why not?

The Gaia Theory is that earth, itself, is living. It seems to react to problems and fix them (or make them worse). Though the methods are crude, it seems to function as a living organism. Thus, studying other states might hurt them.

Can something have a purpose if there is no intelligence guiding it? I think so.

Could it be that God (or some other intelligence) is guiding evolution?
 
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