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Does Gabon have the right to exist?
- Thread starter Kirran
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Does anything?
Well, I'm with you.
I think we should topple the Brazilian state first, and then work our way through Latin America.
Sure thing. But hurry while there is still a vacancy. We are way ahead of schedule already.
Does LuisDantes have a right to exist? I have always wanted to know.
Well he does live on land that was previously occupied by other people, so...
Gabon. Looks like they have got a public education system.
To bring in a bit more of a serious note, the state of Gabon is essentially a colonialist construct, being derived from a divvying-up of the continent by French colonisers. The elite governing the country in particular are very influenced culturally and organisationally by the previous colonists. Nevertheless, nobody quibbles that it is a perfectly acceptable governing entity.
No, I do not. At some point there will be a reckoning.
That is true. Its a pretty strange way for a place to start, too. That place shouldn't have been founded, perhaps.
You are safe here with us in the past. The future cannot touch you here. Let someone else deal with the reckoning.
I can sympathise with that view, yeah.
But now that it's established, there are many people who've been born and raised as Gabonese, and the country is a functioning entity, it seems hard to support going back on the founding. Same r.e. many other countries!
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Gabon should always exist because it is the country whose name is closest to the word gibbon. Reminding people of the existence of gibbons is a noble pursuit because they are ace.
This is a gibbon playing with a squirrel.
And this is a gibbon being cheeky to a dog
I hope the squirrel is OK with it!
But alright, this is well-reasoned, and we'll give Gabon a pass for continued existence. Cameroon though...
Cameroon is close to Cardoon
It may be strange, but it isn't all that rare. It may well be typical, even.
On a practical level, there is just not a clear alternative to choose.
We Brazilians often joke about "giving the land back to the Indians (local term for native Brazilians) and asking for forgiveness" when we feel that we are managing the place in too foolish a way.
But, of course, it would not be that simple even if we meant it. What would we do? Build large rafts and jump into them to starve of in the ocean? Invade the frontier communities? Assure other countries that we totally are worth the trouble of integration, unlike those troublesome Syrians, and hope for the best?
There is no gracious way of suddenly changing course with communities that number in the millions.
Cameroon was named after shrimp by the Portuguese.
You can't oppress shrimp by denying them a country.
You can't possibly be thinking of changing the name or even the government, either. That would change everything for the shrimp. I can hear their passionate protestations already.
Can't you settle for peacefully eating them?
Okay, I'll bite!I would say non-internationalist governments entirely have no right to exist.
That's not going to generate much discussion though.
Is the current government of Gabon non-internationalist? Doesn't the presence of a world-cup soccer team mean that it is an internationalist nation? How exactly does being non-internationalist rob an entity of rights?
There, some debate points
Ha! Changing from internationalist to globalist is mere semantics! It doesn't answer my deep and penetrating questions, especially as it pertains to participation in International Athletic Union events!I guess it might make it, pardon my language "globalist".