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Does God Answer the Prayers Of Immoral People?

Does God answer the prayers of immoral people?

  • No. God does not answer the prayers of the immoral

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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Does God answer the prayers of immoral people?

If so, does the Grand Weirdness have any cut off point? That is, does He answer the prayers of someone who has cheated on their tax return, but not answer the prayers of someone who has murdered?

What do you make of Pat Robertson's statement, after the Dover Court decision forbidding the teaching of Intelligent Design in Dover schools, that the people of Dover had turned away from God and should not expect Him to answer their prayers? Would the Ineffable Gnome Gnapper that you know of actually refuse to answer the prayers of the citizens of Dover because they had turned away from teaching Intelligent Design to their children? Or, is Pat a little loose in the lug nuts these days?

Does God have such human like characteristics that He turns away from the prayers of immoral people like Pat Robertson does? Or, is that anthropomorphism at it's finest?
 

Random

Well-Known Member
God doesn't have to reject the pleas of immoral people, I think. There are two kinds of prayer after all: an invocation or an evocation. The latter sends out energy to the Absolute, the former invokes the divine essence: the effects of either cannot be dictated by anything other than the Law of Karma, so God just lets the Machine do its work. He does not have to measure the weight of prayer against the moral nature of the suplicant.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Well since I was a thief when younger and miracles pulled me out of that and then got my self in more mess and miracle stopped me.
Now I dedicate my time to God, so is it better to love your child to get a response or hit them?
 

wmam

Active Member
Pro 15:8 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to YAH: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.

Pro 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
 

Anti-World

Member
When I was going to a catholic school my religion teacher, or whatever he was, told me that according to the catholic faith if one is under "mortal sin" then God is not with them. I thought is was complete nonsense but that's what he told me.
 

Fluffy

A fool
Perhaps if the immoral person were praying for something like the strength to overcome their immorality then God would answer them. If they asked for permission to gnap a few gnomes then probably not.

Therefore, it seems like it is more the content of the prayer than the person which will dictate the chance of success.

Pat Robertson does not have a few screws loose. His version of theism simply lacks the sophistication that is commonly demonstrated in RF theism.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Sunstone said:
Does God answer the prayers of immoral people?

If so, does the Grand Weirdness have any cut off point? That is, does He answer the prayers of someone who has cheated on their tax return, but not answer the prayers of someone who has murdered?

What do you make of Pat Robertson's statement, after the Dover Court decision forbidding the teaching of Intelligent Design in Dover schools, that the people of Dover had turned away from God and should not expect Him to answer their prayers? Would the Ineffable Gnome Gnapper that you know of actually refuse to answer the prayers of the citizens of Dover because they had turned away from teaching Intelligent Design to their children? Or, is Pat a little loose in the lug nuts these days?

Does God have such human like characteristics that He turns away from the prayers of immoral people like Pat Robertson does? Or, is that anthropomorphism at it's finest?

Justice for Mr. Robertson would be if he were to meet the God he thinks that he serves.

Anway, my opinion on prayer is that it's not about changing our situation but changing our hearts. We don't know what we should pray for because we don't have the spiritual wisdom to know the heart of God before we surrender to God in prayer. Prayer is the opening of our soul to God (rather than, as in Robertson's view, telling God who God is...) so we can be changed by God and empowered by God to fulfill God's purpose for us and to live our lives according to God's will.

The immoral person is the only one who needs to do this.

Robertson simply is the one crying out - do you know who it is, Lord, who is crying at your feet and wiping them off with her hair? Let him continue to beat his chest and thank God for what a righteous man that he is.
 

PHOTOTAKER

Well-Known Member
i put other or depinds for a couple of resigns. one i belive that God answers all prayers in ways that we can understand and in ways that will binifite us. i also belive that in order to progess in knowlage though prayer and poindering then that person is limited for they are not prepard to recive the word of God though revalaion which is about 60% of understanding the scriptors... so my answer is yes and no, but only in a way the person asking is prepared to recive...
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
i voted yes. i just think that a God who choose some very questionable characters to be his servants must have an interest in keeping people away from wrongs - so i agree with Fluffy's answer!
 

s2a

Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
Sunstone said:
...is Pat a little loose in the lug nuts these days?

Stupidity personified in the name of piety is not insanity...and ignorance proffered as wisdom and insight only magnifies revealed stupidity.

I still wish that stupidity was painful, and left a visble mark on the forehead for all to see...
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Sunstone said:
Does God answer the prayers of immoral people?

If so, does the Grand Weirdness have any cut off point? That is, does He answer the prayers of someone who has cheated on their tax return, but not answer the prayers of someone who has murdered?

What do you make of Pat Robertson's statement, after the Dover Court decision forbidding the teaching of Intelligent Design in Dover schools, that the people of Dover had turned away from God and should not expect Him to answer their prayers? Would the Ineffable Gnome Gnapper that you know of actually refuse to answer the prayers of the citizens of Dover because they had turned away from teaching Intelligent Design to their children? Or, is Pat a little loose in the lug nuts these days?

Does God have such human like characteristics that He turns away from the prayers of immoral people like Pat Robertson does? Or, is that anthropomorphism at it's finest?

No one is immoral; he/she may commit immoral acts, but immorality is not endemic.

In answering a question like this, I always revert to the image of me and one of my sons; how would I react? If my son turned away from me, disagreed with me and told me to "get lost" (as has happened), I have still been delighted to give him help if he asks for it at a later time.

Fatherhood is not just for Christmas..................:rolleyes:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Take a look at some of the people in the Bible God choose, so it is question of faith in God that answer prayers.
It is question of Karma then, what happens to you if you do immoral acts, as they come back and haunt you, in this life and the next.
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
Sunstone said:
Does God answer the prayers of immoral people?

Of course He does.

James 1:5
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.


However:

D&C 101:7
7 They were slow to hearken unto the voice of the Lord their God; therefore, the Lord their God is slow to hearken unto their prayers, to answer them in the day of their trouble.


I think that the biggest factor in whether God answers a prayer or not is the prayer itself, are we asking for righteous things?

3 Ne 18:20
20 And whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, which is right, believing that ye shall receive, behold it shall be given unto you.

Luke 11:10-11
10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if [he ask] a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?
 

James the Persian

Dreptcredincios Crestin
michel said:
No one is immoral; he/she may commit immoral acts, but immorality is not endemic.

In answering a question like this, I always revert to the image of me and one of my sons; how would I react? If my son turned away from me, disagreed with me and told me to "get lost" (as has happened), I have still been delighted to give him help if he asks for it at a later time.

Fatherhood is not just for Christmas..................:rolleyes:

I agree with you, but I answered yes because I understood the question to mean those who commit immoral acts. From a Christian point of view everyone does this tro some degree or another (we are all sinners) but God pours out His grace on all alike, so of course He will answer prayers from anyone. What He won't do is answer any and every prayer, but that is the same regardless of personal sinfulness.

James
 
If there is a higher power than yes, I believe that power hears and answers all prayers from all people regardless of (im)morality and faith.
 
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