Does hell exist?

[Riders]

My issue with Christianity and or any religion that believes in hell is this. I'm not going to ask where it is because I know people criticize about it all the time . I wont even use scripture its another source to debate with.

Theres one question, what happens to the brain and body? The body isn't capable of burning forever and ever, my niece Laura told me God would find a way because he gives us new bodies.

The problem is God doesn't. You can give me a new body but keep the head and Id be the same person but a new body would require a new brain. Sorry ,that's not me if its not the same brain mine its not me and I'm not experiencing it.

My brain is trained to meditate and have good thoughts even if I'm floating in fire and fyi if I'm having that much pain I black out, my brain wouldn't be able to take it it would probably make me high. Its not possible for hell to exist.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So your question wasn't serious?

 

[Thana]

My issue with Christianity and or any religion that believes in hell is this. I'm not going to ask where it is because I know people criticize about it all the time . I wont even use scripture its another source to debate with.

Theres one question, what happens to the brain and body? The body isn't capable of burning forever and ever, my niece Laura told me God would find a way because he gives us new bodies.

The problem is God doesn't. You can give me a new body but keep the head and Id be the same person but a new body would require a new brain. Sorry ,that's not me if its not the same brain mine its not me and I'm not experiencing it.

My brain is trained to meditate and have good thoughts even if I'm floating in fire and fyi if I'm having that much pain I black out, my brain wouldn't be able to take it it would probably make me high. Its not possible for hell to exist.

I don't think you're going to meet many people that actually believe we'll have physical bodies, either new or old, in hell.

We're spiritual beings, that's what most Christians believe. Spiritual beings chilling in some meat suits.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

There are two "hells" in the Bible. The first is simply the grave. Everyone will die physically and go to the grave. The second is the fire that will destroy the people who refuse to follow God. They willnot be tortured forever but will be burned up like trash put in a fire.

 

[Ingledsva]

My issue with Christianity and or any religion that believes in hell is this. I'm not going to ask where it is because I know people criticize about it all the time . I wont even use scripture its another source to debate with.

Theres one question, what happens to the brain and body? The body isn't capable of burning forever and ever, my niece Laura told me God would find a way because he gives us new bodies.

The problem is God doesn't. You can give me a new body but keep the head and Id be the same person but a new body would require a new brain. Sorry ,that's not me if its not the same brain mine its not me and I'm not experiencing it.

My brain is trained to meditate and have good thoughts even if I'm floating in fire and fyi if I'm having that much pain I black out, my brain wouldn't be able to take it it would probably make me high. Its not possible for hell to exist.

You have to remember though, that belief in a hell is not much different than a belief in some kind of heaven, or place to go after death.

One supposedly has pain forever, and the other supposedly has happiness forever. Neither makes a lot of sense.

With Christianity, they didn't get their ideas about "hell" from Tanakh, because such idea are not in there.

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[Riders]

Thanks for your advice. Of course I guess different churches teach different things so.

 

[Ingledsva]

Thanks for your advice. Of course I guess different churches teach different things so.

They sure do. LOL!

I do agree that the idea of some kind of torture is worse then the idea of something else after death.

Odd minds make up torture ideas to make you follow them in fear.

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[Thief]

and I believe we end up alongside others like ourselves.

how else to be happy?
how else to be fair?

 

[RedDragon94]

My issue with Christianity and or any religion that believes in hell is this. I'm not going to ask where it is because I know people criticize about it all the time . I wont even use scripture its another source to debate with.

Theres one question, what happens to the brain and body? The body isn't capable of burning forever and ever, my niece Laura told me God would find a way because he gives us new bodies.

The problem is God doesn't. You can give me a new body but keep the head and Id be the same person but a new body would require a new brain. Sorry ,that's not me if its not the same brain mine its not me and I'm not experiencing it.

My brain is trained to meditate and have good thoughts even if I'm floating in fire and fyi if I'm having that much pain I black out, my brain wouldn't be able to take it it would probably make me high. Its not possible for hell to exist.

I suppose it's possible for hell to be a symbol...

But that just leads to the question what's it symbolic of?

 

[arthra]

My issue with Christianity and or any religion that believes in hell is this. I'm not going to ask where it is because I know people criticize about it all the time . I wont even use scripture its another source to debate with.

For Baha'is "hell" is not a place of eternal torment... It's not a "place"... It's more like a condition of being alienated from God. Abdul-Baha said:

"Think ye of love and good fellowship as the delights of heaven, think ye of hostility and hatred as the torments of hell."

(Abdu'l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu'l-Baha, p. 244)

"Heaven and hell are conditions within our own beings."

(From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, November 14, 1947)

(Compilations, Lights of Guidance, p. 209)

 

[Corthos]

Eh... I don't believe in an eternal hell after death. Any God who would subject his creation to such a thing would be petty, cruel (far more than the worst human that ever lived), and it would be against the very essence of nature as we know it (Not even suns burn forever, so how/why does hell? Why does God keep breaking his own rules?)...

I feel that if such a place did existed, it'd exist more as a personal state of mind. Without the constraints of things such as biochemical imbalances, limited observational capability, guilt, etc etc, a spiritual being would be able to mull over things in a truly free and objective/unhindered way. Assuming spirits existed, and that they existed forever, they would only allow themselves to dwell in their own negativity until they realized they didn't have to (or were able to find healing/salvation in introspection), and were free to leave that negativity behind...

I realize that's assuming a LOT, but meh... Just my two cents, and how I feel atm. =)

Edit: @arthra Oh! Jeeze! That's an odd coincidence. XD Is the Bahai version of hell eternal?

 

[sun rise]

On earth there's a big difference between subjective time and clock time. Something negative might seem endless when in fact it's only lasted a few minutes. Something might seem over in a flash when it actually lasted a few minutes.

So to me hell is learning the lesson of one's mistakes on earth when they've outweighed one's positive action. And it lasts only as long as it takes to fully and deeply understand what one has done wrong. There is nothing eternal in a clock sense about learning this lesson.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

My issue with Christianity and or any religion that believes in hell is this. I'm not going to ask where it is because I know people criticize about it all the time . I wont even use scripture its another source to debate with.

Theres one question, what happens to the brain and body? The body isn't capable of burning forever and ever, my niece Laura told me God would find a way because he gives us new bodies.

The problem is God doesn't. You can give me a new body but keep the head and Id be the same person but a new body would require a new brain. Sorry ,that's not me if its not the same brain mine its not me and I'm not experiencing it.

My brain is trained to meditate and have good thoughts even if I'm floating in fire and fyi if I'm having that much pain I black out, my brain wouldn't be able to take it it would probably make me high. Its not possible for hell to exist.

The Bible tells us we cannot even conceive of how great heaven will be. The thought that we can somehow predict what Hell will be like and how our brains would 'black out' and it's not possible for it to exist is a bit absurd, seeing as we probably can't even conceive of its horrors right now.

 

[MARCELLO]

No, the hell in the bible is just to correct some bad people who really need frightening stories in order not to make bad things to others. You may find it stupid but just think about this; there is a potential thief who may steal your wallet but don't as he is afraid of hell. So it may work.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

No, the hell in the bible is just to correct some bad people who really need frightening stories in order not to make bad things to others. You may find it stupid but just think about this; there is a potential thief who may steal your wallet but don't as he is afraid of hell. So it may work.

Actually Hell in the Bible is fundamental to the concept of salvation and Jesus enduring the wrath of God on our behalf so that by faith in Him we may be saved, not by any good works earning ourselves heaven.

 

[Robert.Evans]

My issue with Christianity and or any religion that believes in hell is this. I'm not going to ask where it is because I know people criticize about it all the time . I wont even use scripture its another source to debate with.

Theres one question, what happens to the brain and body? The body isn't capable of burning forever and ever, my niece Laura told me God would find a way because he gives us new bodies.

The problem is God doesn't. You can give me a new body but keep the head and Id be the same person but a new body would require a new brain. Sorry ,that's not me if its not the same brain mine its not me and I'm not experiencing it.

My brain is trained to meditate and have good thoughts even if I'm floating in fire and fyi if I'm having that much pain I black out, my brain wouldn't be able to take it it would probably make me high. Its not possible for hell to exist.

That's assuming that hell is something you experience in the body you have now. It won't. They rot or are burnt in another hell, that of a crematorium. So the question then is, who are you? Clearly more than first meets the eyes.

 

[ThirtyThree]

My issue with Christianity and or any religion that believes in hell is this. I'm not going to ask where it is because I know people criticize about it all the time . I wont even use scripture its another source to debate with.

Theres one question, what happens to the brain and body? The body isn't capable of burning forever and ever, my niece Laura told me God would find a way because he gives us new bodies.

The problem is God doesn't. You can give me a new body but keep the head and Id be the same person but a new body would require a new brain. Sorry ,that's not me if its not the same brain mine its not me and I'm not experiencing it.

My brain is trained to meditate and have good thoughts even if I'm floating in fire and fyi if I'm having that much pain I black out, my brain wouldn't be able to take it it would probably make me high. Its not possible for hell to exist.

Depends. Do you believe in a spirit? It seems you believe that you are your brain? If the resurrection is physical, then it uses advanced technology to some way bring you back, perhaps by upload of some variety. If that is the case, the fire would not go out because the body could never die. It is ridiculous to consider, to be honest. If you are your spirit, eternal torment makes more sense. Still, material fire for an immaterial being? Makes more sense of the torment is everlasting separation from Yahweh in outer darkness, or in pre creation chaos. Fire? Not so much.

 

[NewChapter]

My issue with Christianity and or any religion that believes in hell is this. I'm not going to ask where it is because I know people criticize about it all the time . I wont even use scripture its another source to debate with.

Theres one question, what happens to the brain and body? The body isn't capable of burning forever and ever, my niece Laura told me God would find a way because he gives us new bodies.

The problem is God doesn't. You can give me a new body but keep the head and Id be the same person but a new body would require a new brain. Sorry ,that's not me if its not the same brain mine its not me and I'm not experiencing it.

My brain is trained to meditate and have good thoughts even if I'm floating in fire and fyi if I'm having that much pain I black out, my brain wouldn't be able to take it it would probably make me high. Its not possible for hell to exist.

Hell refers to a spiritual condition experienced when physically alive.

Jesus called some people who were physically alive "dead" (Matt. 8:22,) so there's more ways than one to be dead.

Matthew 8:22
English Standard Version (ESV)
(22)And Jesus said to him, “Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead.”

 

[Ingledsva]

Actually Hell in the Bible is fundamental to the concept of salvation and Jesus enduring the wrath of God on our behalf so that by faith in Him we may be saved, not by any good works earning ourselves heaven.

How so?

Tanakh has no hell - just Sheol, where ALL people, both good and bad, go to await the Messiah.

I believe this is why we have a garbled story where Jesus (whom claimed to be the Messiah) descends into the grave (Sheol) before ascending.

There is no evil Satan in Tanakh either.

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