Does Hinduism acknowledge Jesus as an Avatar?

[Stormcry]

The same one you are thinking of. IndiaDivine.org - Daily News on Hinduism, Yoga, Ayurveda and Natural Healing - IndiaDivine.org (Audārya).
Aupmanyav called it a "Hare Krishnas site" because the moderators are Gauḍīya Vaishṇav (Janhavi Nitāi Dās et al). However, they have genuinely made it a full-fledged site for Hindu Dharma. It has articles and videos from knowledgable contributors, besides the forums .

Then its not good ! Who is the creator of that forum?

I think nitai dasi is foreigner not a hindu.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I think nitai dasi is foreigner not a hindu.

:banghead3 :tuna:

 

[Stormcry]

:banghead3 :tuna:

Ok Ok, got it . Control your mind.

Is nitai das owner of Indiadivine ?

 

[ShivaFan]

Namaste

The owner of the website India Divine (.org) is Madhavan Gupta, and yes this is a website primarily involving and administered by ISKCON followers and "offshoots" with strong ties to related Hare Krishna mandirs, Gaudiyas, and so on.

Some administrative function has ties to South India.

It is a well known, and popular Hindu site with all sorts of participation and contribution from different "sects" within Hinduism and not just ISKCON. It has been, and is, very successful in content, membership, scholarship, and analysis of Hindu subject matter and discussion from a broad range of related content thereof, and has been a site that is well known to "internet Hindu enthusiasts" for a long time. Anyone who finds interest in participating in such forums is familiar to it, and "newbies" to such internet forums also become familiar with it sooner or later. It has a wealth of information on Hinduism, and even though it is "top heavy" with ISKCON and Gaudiya membership it also includes and allows criticism of ISKCON and really should not be considered a "Hare Krishna" or Vaishnava-Gaudiya exclusive site. It is more a tune to "general purpose Hindu discussion".

Originally Posted by Hinduism♥Krishna
I think nitai dasi is foreigner not a hindu.

What kind of ignorant statement is this? Again, is this part of the same theme you seem to always fixate upon, that "Hindu" means only someone born in India and of "Indian race"?

First off, I am a Saiva and not Vaishnava or Hare Krishna, but calling Jahnava Nitai Das who is a well known figure in Hinduism and who has probably done more for Hinduism and charity work in his life than you have ever contributed in your current life, calling him a "foreigner not a hindu" is laughable and I consider race-bating.

Here is his picture. He doesn't look like you racially. But that is irrelavent. He is a Hindu, and I wager a better Hindu than you and you are insulting him personally and all Hindus who do not look likenyou based on race or origin.

Here he is distributing supplies to 300 children at Bhadrak Primary School in India.

He is a prominent member of the Bhaktivedanta Ashram in Bhadrak, Orissa and branches and charity work in South India. He does not "run Indiadivine website", many are involved and contribute to that popular website and forum.

And speaking of forums and "foreigner and not hindu", this very RF with it's Hinduism DIR is probably owned and administered by what you call "foreigners", is there a problem with that? This is also a very popular religious forum, and has many Hindu members who do not look like you either, who are not born in India.

Om Namah Sivaya

 

[Aupmanyav]

Is he the same person who was not allowed entry in Jagannatha temple, so he established another Jagannatha temple where all could enter without any restriction?

 

[Aupmanyav]

HLK, get out of your chauvinistic mold. It does not behove a Hindu.

 

[ameyAtmA]

Yes, JND is quite devoted to ISKCON's Food For Life (food and education help for poor children with spiritual elements), for years. These compassionate devotees are tied to mankind, not a country.

The Audārya site (IndiaDivine) is honestly a well-balanced Hindu site as I said earlier, and it has knowledgable contributors' articles from practically all areas of Hindu Dharma.

 

[Poeticus]

... snip ... He is a Hindu ... snip ...

Of course the gentleman is Hindu.

The following is random, but I believe it has some merit as it pertains to Hinduness:

One of the things I admire about HAF is how they stress that Hindus should not identify by race/ethnicity. Instead of Indian-American or Ukrainian-American [for this scenario, just pretend both are Hindu], a person should rather identify him/herself as Hindu-American. IMHO, I think that is a really cool suggestion. Because, I'd prefer "division" along religious lines than racial/ethnic lines any day.

HAF talks a little bit about this here [keep in mind it's a little old, but I'd still count it as fairly recent].
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[Jaskaran Singh]

One of the things I admire about HAF is how they stress that Hindus should not identify by race/ethnicity. Instead of Indian-American or Ukrainian-American [for this scenario, just pretend both are Hindu], a person should rather identify him/herself as Hindu-American. IMHO, I think that is a really cool suggestion. Because, I'd prefer "division" along religious lines than racial/ethnic lines any day.

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Except for Pakistani-Hindus; they're not real Hindus, they're just double agents working for Khalistani-s or the ISI.
\end{sarcasm}

 

[ameyAtmA]

Namaste

One of the things I admire about HAF is how they stress that Hindus should not identify by race/ethnicity. Instead of Indian-American or Ukrainian-American [for this scenario, just pretend both are Hindu], a person should rather identify him/herself as Hindu-American. IMHO, I think that is a really cool suggestion. Because, I'd prefer "division" along religious lines than racial/ethnic lines any day.

Beautiful .

Now... there are people who say they follow the Veda-Vedānta, Bhagvad Gitā, everything about Shri Kṛshṇa, Vishṇu, embrace all devās as a part of the Vedic family, even the Shaḍ-darshana, acknowledge the mainstream āchārya of various sampradāy....
...
..
but guess whaṭ...

They claim they are "not Hindu"


To any onlooker it is more than obvious they are nice, good, mainstream Hindus following a sect, sampradāy, just as Shri Vaishṇav, Pushṭi-mārgī s , Madhvas, are, individual sampradāy under Hindu Dharma, who nevertheless hold a warm bond of spiritual-kinship with other vedic-āgmic darshana followers .

I was recently having a discussion with someone, and this is my understanding of what she said .

If they themselves disown Hindu Dharma , what then?

For practical purposes, Purusha-prakṛtī-yogamericans ?

Pārmārthically speaking, they are citizens of the Universe, so,

purusha-prakṛtī-yogīs

 

[Aupmanyav]

Except for Pakistani-Hindus; they're not real Hindus, they're just double agents working for Khalistani-s or the ISI.

Have pity on them. They are a persecuted lot with no guarantee that their daughters would not be abducted by the Muslims, with their temples and traditions regularly trodden on. Unfortunately, we cannot do much for them while they are there, and Indian National Congress has not done much when they come here.

They claim they are "not Hindu".

Which people are you talking about? If an person of Hindu origin says that, then it is deficiency of 'samskaras' and education.

 

[Sb1995]

Jai Shri Ram.

 

[Jaskaran Singh]

Have pity on them. They are a persecuted lot with no guarantee that their daughters would not be abducted by the Muslims, with their temples and traditions regularly trodden on. Unfortunately, we cannot do much for them while they are there, and Indian National Congress has not done much when they come here.

You do realize that I was born in and lived most of my life in pAkistAn and that it's more of an inside joke than anything else, right?

 

[Aupmanyav]

I hear about Sodha Rajputs who live on India-Pakistan border. Some of them migrated to India because of persecution there, but no Indian government did much for them. The poor Hindu kolis of Sindh are a most persecuted community.

 

[Stormcry]

Dear shivafan .

First thing , I have no any disrespect for non-hindus .

I accept that there are some non-hindus who are following hindu dharma very well . However most of Non-hindus misinterpret the hindu dharma and even some of them are very dangerous. The example is of Max Muller . He is the man who biased Veda and authenticated cow killing /meat eating . So what are you expecting I should praise him ?

This is kaliyuga AND Hindus have much responsibility to preserve veda . Too much envolvement of non-hindus in veda is not safe . Puranas have already warned us that mlecchas would try to destroy veda . Unfortunatelly hindus are ignoring this.

Do you know how vedic dharma will get vanished ? Only because of anti-hindu missionaries and because of too much envolment of non-hindus in veda .

In ancient times , bramhanas were very strict in preseving veda . But todays condition is worst . Now any tom and harry translate and interpret that . Certainly this would be the reason of loss of vedic teachings . Veda should have restrictions for Non-hindus .

Hari Krishna ...

 

[Aupmanyav]

He is the man who biased Veda and authenticated cow killing /meat eating. So what are you expecting I should praise him?

Don't praise him, don't demonize him. Accept what is a fact - that Vedas mention animal sacrifice and in one verse invite Indra saying that they have sacrificed a bull and he should come to partake it. Nobody gets hurt by accepting truth. My hinduism still remains strong and brilliant.

 

[Jaskaran Singh]

Dear shivafan .

First thing , I have no any disrespect for non-hindus .

I accept that there are some non-hindus who are following hindu dharma very well . However most of Non-hindus misinterpret the hindu dharma and even some of them are very dangerous. The example is of Max Muller . He is the man who biased Veda and authenticated cow killing /meat eating . So what are you expecting I should praise him ?

This is kaliyuga AND Hindus have much responsibility to preserve veda . Too much envolvement of non-hindus in veda is not safe . Puranas have already warned us that mlecchas would try to destroy veda . Unfortunatelly hindus are ignoring this.

Do you know how vedic dharma will get vanished ? Only because of anti-hindu missionaries and because of too much envolment of non-hindus in veda .

In ancient times , bramhanas were very strict in preseving veda . But todays condition is worst . Now any tom and harry translate and interpret that . Certainly this would be the reason of loss of vedic teachings . Veda should have restrictions for Non-hindus .

Hari Krishna ...

praNAm
You seem a bit paranoid, almost to the extent at which you don't seem to know what you're talking about (sorry, I had to say it, ). Firstly, Max Muller was not a Hindu in the traditional sense, he was a British-German Indologist who did research on Hinduism. He did have some interest in vedAnta (mainly advaita and vishiShTadvaita), but he was not Hindu at all, he was Christian. Also, while I'm not exactly fond of him, I do like the fact that he at least bothered to translate the upaniShad-s and veda-s (albeit in a very literal, dry Indological manner). Still, none of the brAhmaNa-s or other dvija-s up until that point cared to do so, so he wasn't completely bad. Anyway, regardless of what you think of him (I'm not too fond of Muller either, tbh), Hindu "converts" (I hate using that term, just using it for the sake of convenience) should be treated just like you would treat any other devotee. The individual with whom you are speaking to (shivafan) is not ethnically "Indian" (not like that really means anything, since South and Southeast Asia has a greater genetic diversity than any other region of the world except Africa, lol), but he is still a very great Hindu and probably loves reading the rAmAyaNam even more than I do. I have no right to tell him that he's any less of a Hindu than me because he wasn't born in bhArat or doesn't have a varNa. There is no true puNyabhUmi in kaliyuga, India has it's fair share of social problems, some of which are greater than elsewhere. For example, female infanticide rates in South Asia (india, shrI la~NkA, pAkistAn, bA~Ngladesh, etc.) is greater than in practically any other region on earth except for China (in part due to the Communist "one-child" policy and other reasons) and over 60 million girls born have gone missing in the last 50 years, mainly because of sex-selective abortions. Is it not hypocritical, therefore, that some of the same Hindus that claim that eating un-fertilize eggs is not-sAttvika and that it is akin to eating meat don't think twice about aborting a child? Clearly, merely being born in India certainly doesn't make you morally superior to a non-Indian individual. Anyway, the shAstra-s themselves, in my opinion, place a far, far greater emphasis on devotion than on one's varNa, see here.

 

[ameyAtmA]

Which people are you talking about? If an person of Hindu origin says that, then it is deficiency of 'samskaras' and education.

Please see my new thread and participate in the poll. Thanks.

 

[Maya3]

Of course the gentleman is Hindu.

The following is random, but I believe it has some merit as it pertains to Hinduness:

One of the things I admire about HAF is how they stress that Hindus should not identify by race/ethnicity. Instead of Indian-American or Ukrainian-American [for this scenario, just pretend both are Hindu], a person should rather identify him/herself as Hindu-American. IMHO, I think that is a really cool suggestion. Because, I'd prefer "division" along religious lines than racial/ethnic lines any day.

HAF talks a little bit about this [youtube]QUr7mPPleD4[/youtube]
here [keep in mind it's a little old, but I'd still count it as fairly recent].
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Thank you for sharing this video!

Maya

 

[atanu]

Then debate it is.

Firstly, Yogananda nor his organisation are Hindu. ....

For all practical purposes Yogananda is Hindu for most Indian and western followers. He taught Self Realization through the means of Yoga and Kriya. There is nothing non-Hindu about that.

He taught the following:

Self-realization is the knowing - in body, mind, and soul - that we are one with the omnipresence of God; that we do not have to pray that it come to us, that we are not merely near it at all times, but that God’s omnipresence is our omnipresence; and that we are just as much a part of Him now as we ever will be. All we have to do is improve our knowing.[28]

Saying that this was what Jesus originally taught, I think, required courage.