does it works for you?

[lewisnotmiller]

I'm not sure I understand. Is it the religious people that there is a problem with? Or is it with the person who is telling a religious person that "Prayer doesn't work"?

Some of each, maybe? That's kinda how I took it.

 

[Vinayaka]

That's great advice. It applies not just to faceless internet folks, but to all news sources. Even 20 years ago, we attempted to teach children critical reading skills, which included evaluating sources and messaging, but that is just SO much more important now than ever before.

Education is tough. There is a money issue with textbooks. Current events and science especially are constantly changing. School districts can't keep up. The internet is somewhat better in the 'up to date' regard, but reliability and bias are the new issues. But most kids are smart about that too.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Education is tough. There is a money issue with textbooks. Current events and science especially are constantly changing. School districts can't keep up. The internet is somewhat better in the 'up to date' regard, but reliability and bias are the new issues. But most kids are smart about that too.

Nope, they're really not, unfortunately.

 

[Kenny]

Some of each, maybe? That's kinda how I took it.

to be sure... that is a people problem no matter what beliefs they have.

 

[Muffled]

"Does it work for you" is a statement I'd never heard before moving to Canada, it seemed a strange thing to say when I first heard it, but the more I heard it the more sense it made. Eg. A person likes to do something and gets a lot of pleasure from it, its obviously working for them, a person eats a certain way maybe a vegan, it seems to be working for them, whats the problem?

One of the sad things about religious people & religious haters is we seem to think we have a license to tell people what doesn't work, whats true and what isn't true.

"Prayer doesn't work" sorry your too late it's working for me.
"Miracles don't work" sorry they worked for the blind man, he can now see, you wanna tell him he's still blind and needs a white cane.

Who the hell do we think we are telling other people what works and what doesn't, whats true and whats not. As I said in a previous post just because we dont understand nuclear fusion doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The Earth was round long before the masses believed it. Eventually science will catch up....

So to all of us with our over inflated opinions of what we think is right/wrong believable or not scientific I suggest we all take a day off, get off our high horse and start respecting the opinions of others even when we dont understand or agree. Otherwise we are all in danger of intellectual pride on a grand scale.

"So does what your doing work for you?" if it does I suggest you keep doing and dont give a rats arse regarding the opinions of others who've set themselves up as the plum line of what right or wrong believable or fantasy.

I guess its only pride and our own woundedness that causes us to correct others when we dont agree.

I better take refuge and run before all the religious pharisee's try to tell me its not working for me.

I believe I can tell you what to believe and it works for me.

I believe that covers a few possibilities but neither is the case for me.

I believe you are assuming that all criticism is Pharisaical but I do not agree.

When I was in Nebraska the phrase "It works for me" was common.

I believe I don't express opinions very often. Most of the time I am providing evidence and make statements that have an evidential basis.

I believe opinions must earn respect.

 

[Muffled]

Love works, selfishness does not.

I proclaim that as an absolute. If that makes me intellectually arrogant, then I can afford to be--I'm right.

I believe selfishness works for me but I agree it is not so great for other people.

 

[Muffled]

I agree. Unsolicited advice is rarely welcome. 'You should ___________________," just indicates the self-appointed advisor's arrogance. Still, if we have a sense of humour, it can go in one ear and out the other.

I believe a person who doesn't listen to advice is foolish and those not willing to give advice are selfish.

 

[Vinayaka]

I believe a person who doesn't listen to advice is foolish and those not willing to give advice are selfish.

I was talking unsolicited advice, not advice in general. Most people, if not all people, are totally willing to give advice IF ASKED. I certainly am. As far as listening goes, people use their discrimination (wisdom) to heed the advice or not, or even listen to it based on the source.

 

[blü 2]

Who the hell do we think we are telling other people what works and what doesn't, whats true and whats not.

By and large I think you're right.

Though despite my good intentions I find myself drawing the line at teaching kids that the world didn't exist 5000 years ago, that Mt Everest was under water not long after, and that evolution's facts must give way to folktales.

 

[viole]

"Does it work for you" is a statement I'd never heard before moving to Canada, it seemed a strange thing to say when I first heard it, but the more I heard it the more sense it made. Eg. A person likes to do something and gets a lot of pleasure from it, its obviously working for them, a person eats a certain way maybe a vegan, it seems to be working for them, whats the problem?

One of the sad things about religious people & religious haters is we seem to think we have a license to tell people what doesn't work, whats true and what isn't true.

"Prayer doesn't work" sorry your too late it's working for me.
"Miracles don't work" sorry they worked for the blind man, he can now see, you wanna tell him he's still blind and needs a white cane.

Who the hell do we think we are telling other people what works and what doesn't, whats true and whats not. As I said in a previous post just because we dont understand nuclear fusion doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The Earth was round long before the masses believed it. Eventually science will catch up....

So to all of us with our over inflated opinions of what we think is right/wrong believable or not scientific I suggest we all take a day off, get off our high horse and start respecting the opinions of others even when we dont understand or agree. Otherwise we are all in danger of intellectual pride on a grand scale.

"So does what your doing work for you?" if it does I suggest you keep doing and dont give a rats arse regarding the opinions of others who've set themselves up as the plum line of what right or wrong believable or fantasy.

I guess its only pride and our own woundedness that causes us to correct others when we dont agree.

I better take refuge and run before all the religious pharisee's try to tell me its not working for me.

I asked an amputee friend of mine that believes in God and prays to get his arm back.

He reports that it does not work for him. And pretty objectively so.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Hello

I think on any forum your going to find people who are consumed with there own self importance and take pleasure in posting over intellectual and convoluted posts, I guess it strokes their ego, Fortunately on this site we have the option of hiding their pasts.

But I guess the world is full of different people with different agendas.

Blesings

Good Im not the only one who catches this. I usually dont put people on ignore, but quite a few I do not because of their conversation, more so making odd ball comments that have nothing to do with the intent and context of the OP. Nardles my nerves.

Okay. Carry on.