Does Political Correctness stifle satire?

[Estro Felino]

Well....satire is a Latin word ...something Romans kinda invented...

Sometimes, if you find something funny, you feel like wanting to express it to others by parodying a situation or a cultural aspect...for example...languages...

Do you think it is politically correct or fair?

For example...what about a video like this?

 

[Estro Felino]

Btw...I find the video extremely funny

 

[Father Heathen]

I do think political correctness goes too far when it ignores intent and context, especially when it comes to satire and comedy.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I strongly agree with Ricky Gervais and George Carlin that context is everything. A joke laughing at rape isn't funny, but a joke involving rape can be hilarious (now I'm curious about distended testicles again).

 

[Estro Felino]

I strongly agree with Ricky Gervais and George Carlin that context is everything. A joke laughing at rape isn't funny, but a joke involving rape can be hilarious (now I'm curious about distended testicles again).

Btw...I was asking about the video, particularly

 

[dianaiad]

Well....satire is a Latin word ...something Romans kinda invented...

Sometimes, if you find something funny, you feel like wanting to express it to others by parodying a situation or a cultural aspect...for example...languages...

Do you think it is politically correct or fair?

For example...what about a video like this?

Now that's funny.

Not sure how political correctness comes into it, but that's funny.

Part of what makes it funny is that the comedian is making fun of HIS OWN language as much as everybody else's.

 

[Estro Felino]

Now that's funny.

Not sure how political correctness comes into it, but that's funny.

Part of what makes it funny is that the comedian is making fun of HIS OWN language as much as everybody else's.

I know...
He was really cruel with his own language...
Self-irony

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I think you should elaborate, SW.
It's like you said " What I find funny, it is passable...whereas what I do not find funny, arbitrarily, must be censored".

I don't know...you should explain this concept better.

Censorship I find utterly detestable, vile, and something that needs to be turned into a living entity so it can be slowly tortured to death. However, I was eluding to a when George Carlin spit out a very impressive list of what I think were all racial slurs and then explained how they are just words and there is nothing wrong with them in and of themselves and that it's the user and how they are being used that matters. And also a Ricky Gervais explaining how rape jokes aren't funny, but jokes involving it can be funny, and he had a joke about himself dying, going to hell, and he's gets raped by the Devil (who's hooved feet step on Gervais' testicles that apparently distended about five feet).

 

[Estro Felino]

Btw... @Shadow Wolf ...if you don't think that video is funny or you find it inappropriate, feel free to say it

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well....satire is a Latin word ...something Romans kinda invented...

Sometimes, if you find something funny, you feel like wanting to express it to others by parodying a situation or a cultural aspect...for example...languages...

Do you think it is politically correct or fair?

For example...what about a video like this?

It was funny, except German didn't live up to my stereotypes and what I find frustrating with the language and trying to understand them hocking and slurring everything together into one megabigultrasuperhardtofigureitoutreallyverylongword.

 

[ChristineM]

Well....satire is a Latin word ...something Romans kinda invented...

Sometimes, if you find something funny, you feel like wanting to express it to others by parodying a situation or a cultural aspect...for example...languages...

Do you think it is politically correct or fair?

For example...what about a video like this?

I love satire, particularly political satire such as hignify (google it and watch an episode)

But i did not find the video in the op in the least bit funny, kinda boring really.

 

[Estro Felino]

But i did not find the video in the op in the least bit funny, kinda boring really.

There's a video where he mocks the British accent too

 

[ChristineM]

There's a video where he mocks the British accent too

Jolly good.

I am from Lancashire. Me just speaking English is a mockery of the english accent to anyone not from Lancashire.

I come from not to far from Preston, here is an example of the local accent

On the bright side i am not from Yorkshire, kent, or several other counties that can have highly localised and possibly indecipherable accents. Or worse still, just 40 miles from my home town

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Censorship I find utterly detestable, vile, and something that needs to be turned into a living entity so it can be slowly tortured to death. However, I was eluding to a when George Carlin spit out a very impressive list of what I think were all racial slurs and then explained how they are just words and there is nothing wrong with them in and of themselves and that it's the user and how they are being used that matters. And also a Ricky Gervais explaining how rape jokes aren't funny, but jokes involving it can be funny, and he had a joke about himself dying, going to hell, and he's gets raped by the Devil (who's hooved feet step on Gervais' testicles that apparently distended about five feet).

Carlin's wasn't a fan of censorship, to be sure, but his 'words you can't say on TV' were your traditional swear words in contrast to the FCC list. Carlin disliked punching down comedy and slurs against women and minorities he considered lazy, appealing to a demographic of young white boys.
No joke. It's what a lot of his fans forgot about him.

The best comedy picks on people in power, not the underdogs.

 

[PureX]

If "political correctness" existed beyond the biased the inflamed insanity of right-wingnut political hyperbole, it would certainly INVITE satire.

 

[Estro Felino]

If "political correctness" existed beyond the biased the inflamed insanity of right-wingnut political hyperbole, it would certainly INVITE satire.

Well...my thread is more about entertainment. For example, there was a debate years ago about the chatacter Apu from The Simpson.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No joke. It's what a lot of his fans forgot about him.

As often as he criticized the macho man image, people have to be pretty dumb to not see realize it or forget it.

 

[SomeRandom]

Cultural sensitivity has always sought to restrict jokes. Even Mozart’s party song was edited because his producer was throughly scandalised and offended.

Comedy usually adapts. But there is a growing distaste for “punching down” style routines. Which the so called “professionals of dark comedy” usually lambast anyway.
Punching up still works. I mean just look at It’s always Sunny in Philadelphia.
It’s easier to get people to laugh at a rapist than the victim of a rape.
I think people might be getting more sensitive, but overly PC types are often the butt of jokes even within their own spheres.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If "political correctness" existed beyond the biased the inflamed insanity of right-wingnut political hyperbole, it would certainly INVITE satire.

It most certainly does exist. And, really, those who harp on about it are just as bad and obnoxious as the RW thought police demanding censorship.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

but overly PC types are often the butt of jokes even within their own spheres.

In my own experience, one run in I had with one, even criticisms of the Left and any sort of potentially offensive remarks and jokes were a strict no, and this one was far too sensitive to be able to take a joke.