Does Porn Lead to Rape?

[MysticSang'ha]

I think he is saying some people don't see pornography as just sex, but as violence

Oh, I get that part, but I don't see how that's relevant to the OP. Mentioning being a Devil's Advocate and offering a contrary position and all. I don't follow.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Oh, I get that part, but I don't see how that's relevant to the OP. Mentioning being a Devil's Advocate and offering a contrary position and all. I don't follow.

It wasn't the OP it was a response to this:
Originally Posted by Wirey
If I watch porn, it triggers a reaction that, 15 seconds later, leaves me incapable of rape.

Rape is about power, not sex.
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Yes, but some people do not see pornography as just about sex or just depicting sex, it was a response to Wirey implying that porn is just about sex and you clapping.

 

[DallasApple]

How did I turn out? I'm a massive wimp. Philosophically, I do not believe in feeding the cycle of violence, I am very much opposed to military conflicts, I don't get involved in fights, I don't believe people have a right to dominate others. I don't even like seeing insects be squished.

I don't eat meat.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

Thats like saying having sex will make you a rapist.

I mean think about it. If a women lets a man have sex with her then it will lead the man to believe that he can have sex with any woman. And if she suddenly won't have sex with him anymore he will get sexually frustrated and go out and rape someone.

 

[Aquitaine]

I'm not following.

I think he is saying some people don't see pornography as just sex, but as violence

Oh, I get that part, but I don't see how that's relevant to the OP. Mentioning being a Devil's Advocate and offering a contrary position and all. I don't follow.

It wasn't the OP it was a response to this:
Originally Posted by Wirey
If I watch porn, it triggers a reaction that, 15 seconds later, leaves me incapable of rape.

Rape is about power, not sex.
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Yes, but some people do not see pornography as just about sex or just depicting sex, it was a response to Wirey implying that porn is just about sex and you clapping.

Indeed, what Horrorble interpreted was correct (thanks for that by the way )

Some people see porn in general as violence, and not a depiction of sex. So I guess I was trying to draw parallels between violent video games and porn having a desensitizing effect on the viewer.

Personally, I'm inclined to believe that both of them don't, but I put the argument out there anyway because some people would believe they do.

Hope that clears things up. :yes:

 

[Aquitaine]

I don't eat meat.

I wish I had your willpower. :yes:

 

[ryobi]

Ted Bundy did state during his final interview hours before his execution this, This was his response from How would your life have been without the influence of porn?


Ted Bundys response, " I am sure it would have been a lot better, not just for me but for a lot of people, the victims, the family, I am certain it would not have included this kind of violence”. That was from his last interview Fatal Addiction.

It is not concrete evidence what Ted Bundy said, but He did say it. He was desperate, maybe He was telling the truth?

If not for this reason, Why else would have Ted Bundy killed? What do you think was the reason?

Why did the Vikings kill and rape? Were they watching porn?

 

[Poeticus]

Why did the Vikings kill and rape? Were they watching porn?

That's an overhyped myth. The Vikings were not the extremely brutal, marauding, raping, killers that the media persistently portrays them as. In fact, the sexual crimes committed by the Teutonic Knights puts the Vikings to shame. Have you ever read about the Sack of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania?

 

[DallasApple]

I wish I had your willpower. :yes:

Well I do swat mosquittos and flies. And I curse.

 

[ryobi]

According to some researchers internet pornography can lead to erectile dysfunction. So it seams pornography actually prevents rape

 

[DallasApple]

According to some researchers internet pornography can lead to erectile dysfunction. So it seams pornography actually prevents rape

Whats really funny..yes I'm chuckling.Supposedly a rapist is a rapist.Its not about sex at all.Its only about power and violence.But when you try to research if porn can lead to rape?There are quite a few articles spouting that since the internet and the ease of access to porn incidences of rape have decreased.So if this is true is porn about power and violence?And porn is filling the appetites of all the born rapists?

Because it would not make one iota of sense if rape is not about sex at all.That increase in porn usage would lower the incidences of rape.That is unless porn isn't about sex and its instead about power and control over women.

 

[Titanic]

Why did the Vikings kill and rape? Were they watching porn?

Your point is so irrelevant...

 

[ryobi]

Your point is so irrelevant...

What point is that exactly? All I did was ask a couple sincere questions :shrug

 

[Titanic]

What point is that exactly? All I did was ask a couple sincere questions :shrug

Nothing then I guess.

 

[Titanic]

I was just stating what Ted Bundy actually said.

 

[DallasApple]

I was just stating what Ted Bundy actually said.

Im sorry.:sorry1:

Maybe porn did lead him to rape.I mean he had no reason to lie.He was going to die anyway..

 

[Sunstone]

Why did the Vikings kill and rape? Were they watching porn?

I assume your reasoning might be that: if he Vikings were so bad, and they didn't have porn, then porn is unnecessary be as bad as the Vikings? Would that summarize it?

By the way, if one wanted had to use Vikings to figure things out, then the way to do it would be to go back in time, divide the Vikings into two groups, one group to view porn, the other not to view porn. Then watch which group, if either, does the most killing and raping.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Indeed, what Horrorble interpreted was correct (thanks for that by the way )

Some people see porn in general as violence, and not a depiction of sex. So I guess I was trying to draw parallels between violent video games and porn having a desensitizing effect on the viewer.

Personally, I'm inclined to believe that both of them don't, but I put the argument out there anyway because some people would believe they do.

Hope that clears things up. :yes:

I think we're talking past each other, unfortunately. I understand there are people who see porn as violence and not sex, but I don't get where simply redefining porn helps to show how watching violence leads to rape. I thought other arguments had been made to show how playing violent video games doesn't show a causal relationship to rates of violence in a society, and so therefore I'm still in the mindset of "correlation =/= causation", whether porn is seen as violence or seen as sex.

Some people see porn as art (I'm one). And redefining it still doesn't make a better argument, IMO.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

I think we're talking past each other, unfortunately. I understand there are people who see porn as violence and not sex, but I don't get where simply redefining porn helps to show how watching violence leads to rape. I thought other arguments had been made to show how playing violent video games doesn't show a causal relationship to rates of violence in a society, and so therefore I'm still in the mindset of "correlation =/= causation", whether porn is seen as violence or seen as sex.

Some people see porn as art (I'm one). And redefining it still doesn't make a better argument, IMO.

There may be a difference between violent video games and pornography when one involves an orgasm and the other doesn't, and one it focused on women and the other isn't. There was a native american girl who got ganged raped and her rapists referenced clusters revenge.There may be an issue with making violence against women funny and desirable, and that being easily accessible by non-adults. Pornography can be one factor or influence amongst several factors.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Im sorry.:sorry1:

Maybe porn did lead him to rape.I mean he had no reason to lie.He was going to die anyway..

He also had nothing to lose.