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Does Quantum Mechanics Reveal That Life Is But a Dream?

Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
In other words quit believing God does miracles and just reduce everything to what you can see.
God does miracles and the house of God is the entire universe not just this tiny speck of dust called Earth. Creating life with structured DNA programmed to evolve that experiences conscious thought made from inanimate elements is a miracle. At one point in time we were a single biological programmed by God, cell. ONE cell.
Jesus although 100% humanitarian is not 100% human. His DNA was altered by God and no male DNA that creates a "son" was in him. Just like other life forms on Earth have advanced abilities (like a dolphin can use sonar while no human can from their biological body), Jesus was given advanced abilities of healing and advanced knowledge of the future..
The House of God is the universe and Jesus left in a biological body in an aircraft to another "mansion" which is a planet that can sustain our biological needs to prepare that planet for his followers that he will return to Earth to mercifully collect before extinction. Just like this planet has a heaven, that planet has a heaven only that heaven will never have a war fought in it.
So humans as a specie will go extinct on this planet but will still survive in the universe. Earth is not the only planet in this vast cosmos that has intelligent life on it. There are many mansions, planets, with life on them.
John 14:2
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


What was seen is an intelligent evolved ape that was smart enough to invent thermonuclear weapons but stupid enough to believe in a talking snake and child sacrifice that wants to leave this planet to colonize the universe willing to kill to achieve their goal of superiority to claim land/planets as their own.
WAR is not going to be allowed to evolve in the universe, it will remain in it's first estate, Earth.

Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
 
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Wildswanderer

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God does miracles and the house of God is the entire universe not just this tiny speck of dust called Earth. Creating life with structured DNA programmed to evolve that experiences conscious thought made from inanimate elements is a miracle. At one point in time we were a single biological programmed by God, cell. ONE cell.
Jesus although 100% humanitarian is not 100% human. His DNA was altered by God and no male DNA that creates a "son" was in him. Just like other life forms on Earth have advanced abilities (like a dolphin can use sonar while no human can from their biological body), Jesus was given advanced abilities of healing and advanced knowledge of the future..
The House of God is the universe and Jesus left in a biological body in an aircraft to another "mansion" which is a planet that can sustain our biological needs to prepare that planet for his followers that he will return to Earth to mercifully collect before extinction. Just like this planet has a heaven, that planet has a heaven only that heaven will never have a war fought in it.
So humans as a specie will go extinct on this planet but will still survive in the universe. Earth is not the only planet in this vast cosmos that has intelligent life on it. There are many mansions, planets, with life on them.
John 14:2
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


What was seen is an intelligent evolved ape that was smart enough to invent thermonuclear weapons but stupid enough to believe in a talking snake and child sacrifice that wants to leave this planet to colonize the universe willing to kill to achieve their goal of superiority to claim land/planets as their own.
WAR is not going to be allowed to evolve in the universe, it will remain in it's first estate, Earth.

Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Did you drop your Bible into a science fiction book and get the two mixed together?
Are you are just making up this bizarre interpretation or it it from a bigger cult?
Jesus and God are one, he didn't need to be given advanced abilities, he has all power available to him.
 

Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Did you drop your Bible into a science fiction book and get the two mixed together?
Are you are just making up this bizarre interpretation or it it from a bigger cult?
Jesus and God are one, he didn't need to be given advanced abilities, he has all power available to him.
Jesus said a man and woman are one when married. Is the man then the woman? Is the man ever the woman? No that is impossible, they remain completely different.
They are one in love, loyalty and purpose to uphold their vow with each other. The vow makes them one.
That is exactly how Jesus and God are one, through the vow of love and loyalty. They remain completely different never the same thing.
God is not an ape, Jesus has Homo Sapiens DNA that was altered by God.
God never was and never will be a Homo Sapiens. God creates Homo Sapiens but that does not make God an ape. For example, A potter can make a bowl but the potter is not the bowl and never will be although the bowl would never exist without the potter. So the potter and bowl are one because without the creator the created would never exist.
. In the beginning was the word, knowledge that is God alone, some of those words God taught to Jesus His son because Jesus did not know what those words were until he heard them from God. Jesus is only the words he learns from his Father and is not all the knowledge of God. Jesus prays to God for advice. Jesus needs advice because he is not, never was and never will be God.
1 Peter 3:8
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
John 17:22
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
1 John 4:7
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
John 17:21
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
 

Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Neither are humans apes. That's a myth.

We are animals made in the likeness of animals. Plants and animals are the "us" in "let us make man in our image".
Homo Sapiens needs to eat to create cells to stay alive. Stop eating then die regardless of spiritual beliefs.
Plants and animals are created FIRST on Earth THEN God creates Homo Sapien Sapien DNA that requires consumption of other life forms to exist.
Genesis 1.25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

God created a specie together male and female, Homo Sapiens and that animal specie was designed with advanced DNA to allow that animal to think in advanced concepts like mathematics, science, communication, etc. which makes our specie in the image of God with the compacity for love, mercy, compassion for other life forms created by God..
Other animals can not build a car or jet so we have dominion over them by our ability to analyze and think in abstract ways.. We are still animals that have the same biological processes that other animals have that must eat to exist. God does not need to eat to exist and God is not an animal.
Then God shows the Jewish version of creation that falsely claims the first human on Earth was a Hebrew/Jew named Adam. This false religion, because they worship a manmade God, starts in Genesis 2-4 after everything is already created and finished by God, the Father of Jesus.
The first human male on planet Earth was not named Adam nor was the first woman made from a rib named Eve. Fairytale creation story but believed by minds that like mystical characters with no basis in reality.
 
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rational experiences

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DNA is only studied in the presence of the body that owns it. Living.

However scientist studied dead things claiming DNA also.

They ought to first place the boundaries of a thesis application themselves seeing they always have by group consensus. What humans agree only.

So humans state in human life as a human study about human genesis once it was different.

If you got every single not the same human today being the majority. First you can state look not the same genesis.

Then separate the group human into healthy versus sick.

Geez look at all the DNA gone not being expressed. Look at faces at arms at legs at torsos at organs at growths at deformities. Look a human DNA gone.

No different than what you did before.

You did a thesis why the DNA holy life was no longer being expressed.

Your quote as Christ gas mass body that by pressure presence keeps water to be oxygenated at the ground left.

The body of god earths history stone gases CH gases burnt out by anti effect. 2012 he said as a scientist when fallout caused by the loss would END.

Never happened.

So the teachers of the advice gave a warning. As men named God in science. They warned don't ever do it again.

Men agreed we won't use nuclear science again. Alchemy outlawed they thought was extreme as a law choice.

So it was reallowed. Now you live to see the human pain and suffering. Hierarchy could care less by consensus. It's just accepted as the way of life.

...I am the way the truth and the life said a Jesus man's quote. Sexual procreation. As Jesus wasn't sexual procreation by teaching.

Harmed life attacked was stopped.

In a review science the fall was an attack of life had stopped and crop circles the sign. Cooled. Finished unable to form mans sin.

Science began again what has been frozen held cooled stopped. It now has multiplied increased and gained its appearance.

Science seems to forget man introduced his own sin..

Sink holes...hole thesis...space owned ...radiating holes using referencing inferring position earth as man is position earth. In thesis.

So if you claim I began in energy as a hole you end your life in the position your choice.

However not many other humans own your agreement. Artificial changer of all things God...present held and cooled.

The teaching Jesus was present. Presence is present. Only present humans live own express life.

So the gift was said to be three gifts. Myrrh frankincense gold.

Both myrrh frankincense used for cancers body ailments. Gold they rubbed on their body against radiation sciences.

So they said only in the presence of was the holiness of life saved.

In the olden days the science was philosophers gold. So they realised the presence of gold in created form holy.

Teaching...in the presence of God life is holy.

So men search for gods presence.

Yet men said God in science was the earth and it's stone heavens.

Yet the heavens wasn't stone.

Therefore if you did not use the words correctly they were misappropriated by coercers.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

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Premium Member
But don’t these mathematical models, however contrived, convoluted or compromised, yield results? Results that have applications in the material world, in the development of new technologies for example?
Almost without exception, the answer is “no.” For the bast 60+ years, basically the only application of the physics that is (or, before it emerged, was) the standard model of particle physics is to particle physics experiments and (by extension) cosmology (which incorporates the standard model of particle physics in its “standard model of cosmology”). This is not to say that there haven’t been plenty of developments along the way that have proved incredibly important, valuable, useful, etc., both within physics and elsewhere. Even when it comes to the sophisticated incorporation of what, historically, were two different methods for “taming” infinities (regularization and renormalization) into one renormalization scheme (in which regularization is a step in the process), the applications outside of particle physics have been enormous. Work that grew out of early QED, HEP, etc., led to the renormalization group (RG), and this along with other work was critical in our modern understanding of critical phenomena (pun intended) as well as with our conceptual understanding of certain types of complex systems. Symmetry breaking, path integrals, non-relativistic QFT, Wick’s theorem, Perturbation theory, etc., not to mention quantum field theory outside of its development and use within particle physics/HEP physics, have all contributed to out theoretical and/our experimental understanding of physical phenomena and some have had wider practical applications (condensed matter physics, for example, relies heavily on both QFT and RG, including the use of Feynman diagrams, virtual particles, etc., in the treatment of many-body problems).

But these “applications”, along with the mathematical and computational devices that are largely due (at least initially) to work in particle physics/HEP, are incidental (not to mention largely accidental or coincidental). In some cases it is not even clear exactly what was developed within particle physics first as opposed to borrowed from work elsewhere. And in all cases, the “applications” have nothing to do with the physical laws or dynamics of particles and the standard model. Not only that, a great deal of work was devoted to understanding why it is that we may never see any practical applications of quantum chromodynamics because we needed a theoretical explanation (color confinement) for why it appears that particles like protons have constituents, but we cannot detect these, much less manipulate them or use them for practical applications the way we do nuclear spin, positron emission, etc.

Many if not most theorists don’t think of most of the entities described by the standard model as more than formal terms in some Lagrangian required by the relevant symmetry groups and by gauge (field) theory constraints in general. As the general view nowadays is that the standard model is basically just another effective field theory, it is more or less a very, very, very expensive way of parameterizing ignorance IF we accept as true basic heuristic, hand-waving arguments used to justify would-be mathematical procedures applied to would-be mathematical objects.
But if we tell people this, then they won’t let governments give us billions and billions of dollars to build bigger and bigger machines that we tell the public allow us to probe the inner workings of the cosmos by revealing the secrets of the subatomic realm and so forth. Of course, for the theorist working in quantum foundations, the whole thing is a nightmare because the closest thing to an attempt to build a rigorous, coherent version of quantum field theory (algebraic QFT) has had no real success in particle physics, and all the issues we deal with in quantum foundations particle physicists have swept under various rugs in a myriad of ways using numerous tricks that even the founders (Feynman, Dirac, etc.) came to increasingly regard as problematic.


Has anyone tried doing this yet? Reimagined the physical world, in the hope perhaps of making a new kind of sense, from out of the impossible?
Yes. Its called quantum field theory. The reinterpretation involves demoting position from an operator and reinterpreting the operators from quantum mechanics to be particles that act on spacetime "points" we can detect via "events" in spacetime that correspond to e.g., cross-sectional calculations from colliders.
 

Wildswanderer

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We are animals made in the likeness of animals. Plants and animals are the "us" in "let us make man in our image".
Homo Sapiens needs to eat to create cells to stay alive. Stop eating then die regardless of spiritual beliefs.
Plants and animals are created FIRST on Earth THEN God creates Homo Sapien Sapien DNA that requires consumption of other life forms to exist.
Genesis 1.25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

God created a specie together male and female, Homo Sapiens and that animal specie was designed with advanced DNA to allow that animal to think in advanced concepts like mathematics, science, communication, etc. which makes our specie in the image of God with the compacity for love, mercy, compassion for other life forms created by God..
Other animals can not build a car or jet so we have dominion over them by our ability to analyze and think in abstract ways.. We are still animals that have the same biological processes that other animals have that must eat to exist. God does not need to eat to exist and God is not an animal.
Then God shows the Jewish version of creation that falsely claims the first human on Earth was a Hebrew/Jew named Adam. This false religion, because they worship a manmade God, starts in Genesis 2-4 after everything is already created and finished by God, the Father of Jesus.
The first human male on planet Earth was not named Adam nor was the first woman made from a rib named Eve. Fairytale creation story but believed by minds that like mystical characters with no basis in reality.
Oh, I get it. So you don't believe scripture at all unless you can warp it to fit your science fiction story. Yes, we are made in God's image, that's from scripture BTW and tells us we are not animals, but a special creation unlike any other. And the same book you got that from tells us that yes, the first man was named Adam. Scipture also tells us that Jesus created everything, therefore Jesus is God.
 

Triumph

FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Oh, I get it. So you don't believe scripture at all unless you can warp it to fit your science fiction story. Yes, we are made in God's image, that's from scripture BTW and tells us we are not animals, but a special creation unlike any other. And the same book you got that from tells us that yes, the first man was named Adam. Scipture also tells us that Jesus created everything, therefore Jesus is God.
Realize there are 2 completely different creation stories in the Bible. The one based on science is first in Genesis because the truth comes before a lie about the truth. The God said it is FINISHED. Then God shows the creation narrative you want to believe that God sent Jesus to dispel because it is the basis of a false religion. God expected everyone to be smart enough to know snakes do not talk. The first creation outline said plants and animals were created FIRST before man but the Jewish fairytale states they are created AFTER man is created proving the Jewish story is a lie.
Abraham wanted to make his race the only beloved race of people on Earth when that was just Abraham's lie to establish a fake bloodline ( that he invented) so he could claim right to a throne by birthright. Abraham has no idea what was the names of the first humans on Earth but he named them Adam and Eve and claimed they were his ancestors as Abraham sought to establish a distinct and exalted race that would support him as their leader on a throne forever.. Adam and Eve are fictional characters. No man ever lived 969 years, A Snake/serpent never talked to a human.

The Bible is about 2 different religions, Judaism and Christianity. Jesus said do not mix them , the old wine is what the Jews believe, the new wine is what Jesus teaches and that is truth.
Just because the Jewish religion is presented in a large portion of the book does not mean we are to follow that religion. That religion is shown to support parents killing children, human and animal sacrifice (common in pagan religions), children robbing parents and siblings, child sacrifice, slavery is accepted, inequality of race is accepted, unequal laws based on gender is accepted, people refusing to uphold their vows allowed, and war is demanded. Jesus was sent to teach these are man made ideas and man made laws, not what God wants people to believe and not how God wants people to behave.
God never worshipped himself, Jesus healed life but he never created anything, God did.
 
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paarsurrey

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Does Quantum Mechanics Reveal That Life Is But a Dream?

and we wake up, not physically, as the present physical body dies and a new spirit is born from within the present one, but say virtue-ally (dark if our actions are bad, enlightened if our actions are virtuous) as Mirza Ghualm Ahmad 1835-1908 told in the "Conference of World Religions", please. Okay?

A dream seems real for as long as it lasts. Can we say more of life?
I agree with one here.

Regards
 
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