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Does the davinci code theory affect Christ's divinity?

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  • Yes it affects his Divinity

    Votes: 1 2.7%
  • No it does not

    Votes: 23 62.2%
  • Im not a Christian

    Votes: 13 35.1%

  • Total voters
    37

ΩRôghênΩ

Disciple of Light
*I named the idea that jesus was married to Mary Magdalane and had kids, the davinci code theory, just to make the title shorter.

Now I know that the Davinci code has upset a lot of Christians, especially Catholics. A lot of Christians seem to believe that if God, or God's projection as his own son, made a physical bond of a woman, it would affect his divinity in somehow reducing him to human qualities, Marriage and sex being one of them.

In my personal oppinion, i do not believe that Christ went through these romantic stages, yet i also do not believe that if he did it would affect his divinity. If God and therefore Christ, is a God of love, why would romantic love cause him to loose his divinity. It is but one expression of the many types of Love that he expressed.

The reason I do not believe this happened is because it is an ancient Christian right (which I have no problem with being practised) to kiss one another on the lips as a sign of mystical reveltaion. If Christ did kiss Mary Magdalane, it would have been a sign of Godly Revelation, not romantic Love. Also it says in the Gospel of Mary, that she was his favorite Disciple. First, I dont think Christ would make distinctions in Love, and second, women were very important in the church back then. this has nothing to do with Romanticism.

*Note that the Cathars who were wiped out by the 1500s hasd women priests, showinbg this authority. Also, ancient Christian art depicts women with even higher status sometimes, than that of the apostles.

Your own thoughts and comments please....
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
The Gospel of Mary also says that Jesus loved her more than other women.

The Gospel of Philip describes her as his "companion", read what you will into that.

Personally, Jesus could have been a pimp and it would not affect Christ's divinity for me.
 

Buttons*

Glass half Panda'd
Firstly I'd like to say that taking anything Gnostic and slapping "davinci code theory" onto it is just sickening.

.... as for the rest, I dont feel like wasting my energy on it
 

Mr. Hair

Renegade Cavalcade
Halcyon said:
Personally, Jesus could have been a pimp and it would not affect Christ's divinity for me.
*suddenly has an image of Jesus wearing a purple velvet hat*

:D

Oh, and no; no more then any other specific human action of Jesus invalidates the belief in his divinity. I fail to see how the 'fully god and fully man' theory fails to cover (human) sexual activities.
 

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
Halcyon said:
The Gospel of Mary also says that Jesus loved her more than other women.

The Gospel of Philip describes her as his "companion", read what you will into that.

Personally, Jesus could have been a pimp and it would not affect Christ's divinity for me.

I will read "what I will into that".....thanks. :)

But it would sure cause many to worship Barney or the jolly green giant instead. So, it does affect peoples perception of who God is.
 

Krie

Member
wow... most of the ppl I know are freaking b/c of that. This lady i know really got a laugh out of it b/c she has no belief in anything other than what she is taught... how dense... ><'
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
It would actually strengthen my testimony and make Jesus Christ more divine in my eyes if I found out He had married and had children.
 
I don't believe that that's true, and if it is true than it would basically mean that what he did was fine and acceptable. How can God have allowed him to go through with sacrificing himself for our sins if he wasn't holy, and why would God have said that he will raise Jesus up if he was a sinner?
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
Daniel Burbank said:
I don't believe that that's true, and if it is true than it would basically mean that what he did was fine and acceptable. How can God have allowed him to go through with sacrificing himself for our sins if he wasn't holy, and why would God have said that he will raise Jesus up if he was a sinner?

How is being married and having children a sin?
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
~Lord Roghen~ said:
*I named the idea that jesus was married to Mary Magdalane and had kids, the davinci code theory, just to make the title shorter.

Now I know that the Davinci code has upset a lot of Christians, especially Catholics. A lot of Christians seem to believe that if God, or God's projection as his own son, made a physical bond of a woman, it would affect his divinity in somehow reducing him to human qualities, Marriage and sex being one of them.

In my personal oppinion, i do not believe that Christ went through these romantic stages, yet i also do not believe that if he did it would affect his divinity. If God and therefore Christ, is a God of love, why would romantic love cause him to loose his divinity. It is but one expression of the many types of Love that he expressed.

The reason I do not believe this happened is because it is an ancient Christian right (which I have no problem with being practised) to kiss one another on the lips as a sign of mystical reveltaion. If Christ did kiss Mary Magdalane, it would have been a sign of Godly Revelation, not romantic Love. Also it says in the Gospel of Mary, that she was his favorite Disciple. First, I dont think Christ would make distinctions in Love, and second, women were very important in the church back then. this has nothing to do with Romanticism.

*Note that the Cathars who were wiped out by the 1500s hasd women priests, showinbg this authority. Also, ancient Christian art depicts women with even higher status sometimes, than that of the apostles.

Your own thoughts and comments please....
Well, aside from the fact that we're talking about a work of fiction, I can't see how it would in any way detract from Christ's divinity if He had married.
 

EnhancedSpirit

High Priestess
Daniel Burbank said:
I don't believe that that's true, and if it is true than it would basically mean that what he did was fine and acceptable. How can God have allowed him to go through with sacrificing himself for our sins if he wasn't holy, and why would God have said that he will raise Jesus up if he was a sinner?

Being married would not have made him a sinner. I do not see how the "davinci code theory" would have any effect on the divinity of Jesus. Back in those days, marriage was more of a business arrangement between fathers. If Jesus married Mary, it would have been because he loved her, and this would have gone against the traditions of Judaism. I think the marriage of Christ was purposely kept out of the story because it was one of the reasons the Jews did not accept Jesus as the Messiah, and well, to bring it up would be like bad publicity.
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
EnhancedSpirit said:
Being married would not have made him a sinner. I do not see how the "davinci code theory" would have any effect on the divinity of Jesus. Back in those days, marriage was more of a business arrangement between fathers. If Jesus married Mary, it would have been because he loved her, and this would have gone against the traditions of Judaism. I think the marriage of Christ was purposely kept out of the story because it was one of the reasons the Jews did not accept Jesus as the Messiah, and well, to bring it up would be like bad publicity.


You know what? That could be entirely true. I've enver thought about it that way.
 
Katzpur said:
Well, aside from the fact that we're talking about a work of fiction, I can't see how it would in any way


There's plenty of true profound real things disguised as fiction, especially philosophical mystery schools. it was a big trend in the late 1800's...the Da vinci Code is a fictional story, but is about a real thing, just as fictional characters in books and on TV eat food and drive cars. Tom Clancy's fiction is well researched and contains many detailed technical specs from real military equipment although the stories are made up.


i'm pretty sure that the contraversy around this is about Mary magdelene being a reformed prostitute, as she probably was, a hooker with the same name as his mother, a good thing to forgive like it came out of some heretic around town or whatever. I think he had kids, but not with Mary magdelene, as Christ wouldn't have turned around and had kids with a former hooker, the political position he was in. In light of this political position, they did a good job of hiding the kids from mock idol worshippers and people who would have turned them into kings. the Magdelene mysteries are probably still obscured in the light of history, and may be allegory in part. I have no doubt that he left children behind.
 

Buttercup

Veteran Member
The Da Vinci Code is fiction from front to back...and even Dan Brown's 'fact' page at the start of the book it not entirely true. After knowing that....what's there to get so worked up about? I don't get it myself. Seek the truth and fiction shouldn't bother you. And for the record, if we found out for sure that Christ was married.....wouldn't change my thoughts on him one bit.
 

SoyLeche

meh...
Ramacharaka said:
There's plenty of true profound real things disguised as fiction, especially philosophical mystery schools. it was a big trend in the late 1800's...the Da vinci Code is a fictional story, but is about a real thing, just as fictional characters in books and on TV eat food and drive cars. Tom Clancy's fiction is well researched and contains many detailed technical specs from real military equipment although the stories are made up.


i'm pretty sure that the contraversy around this is about Mary magdelene being a reformed prostitute, as she probably was, a hooker with the same name as his mother, a good thing to forgive like it came out of some heretic around town or whatever. I think he had kids, but not with Mary magdelene, as Christ wouldn't have turned around and had kids with a former hooker, the political position he was in. In light of this political position, they did a good job of hiding the kids from mock idol worshippers and people who would have turned them into kings. the Magdelene mysteries are probably still obscured in the light of history, and may be allegory in part. I have no doubt that he left children behind.
Do you have any evidence that Mary Magdelene was a former prostitute? It's widely believed, but is there anything to back that up?
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Buttercup said:
The Da Vinci Code is fiction from front to back...and even Dan Brown's 'fact' page at the start of the book it not entirely true.
Seriously? The "fact page" isn't fact? I knew the rest of it wasn't, but what part of the "fact page" is not?
 

Buttercup

Veteran Member
Katzpur said:
Seriously? The "fact page" isn't fact? I knew the rest of it wasn't, but what part of the "fact page" is not?

He says something about the organizations being real....The Priory of Sion is not. And his depictions of Opus Dei are not correct either. Hmmm. I don't have the book anymore so that's all I can think of at the moment.
 
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