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Does the string theory prove the battle of God and Satan?

horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
I have an interesting theory in which I would like to get other people’s opinions on that concerns the beginning of the univers as well as the beginning of good and evil, matter and anti-matter, positives and negatives ect. If you are familiar with my chosen religion (All) the you can understand that I believe in trying to understand every belief and finding a truth within that belief.
The Big-bang theory now has an introverted meaning being
explained by the sting theory with the intoduction of the 11th dimention. Following relative guides of science, one of my favorites being, every action has an equal and opposite reaction (try to disprove it, something always happens with an initial action; reaction). If persay there was a created figure in which was placed into existence for the mere fact of loneliness, and that figure saw itself as the one in which created it, would this not cause a reaction? Is it not a plausible to think that maybe creation (the bigbang, the universe, matter, equall and opposite, ect.) was the response to this scenero?
This is just the beginning of my theories; I have many more that pertain to imagination, alien, dreams, etc. , but I would really like to hear what you have to say if anything.
 

Seven

six plus one
Sorry, but I think you're cherry picking ideas and finding connections where there are none.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Following relative guides of science, one of my favorites being, every action has an equal and opposite reaction (try to disprove it, something always happens with an initial action; reaction). If persay there was a created figure in which was placed into existence for the mere fact of loneliness, and that figure saw itself as the one in which created it, would this not cause a reaction? Is it not a plausible to think that maybe creation (the bigbang, the universe, matter, equall and opposite, ect.) was the response to this scenero?
But doesn't this say that there was existence before there was creation? What does it mean to have existence before the universe's creation?


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P.S. Sting Theory: Theory developed by London-based music critic Alan Higglethwaite in the early 1980s, which posits that any pasty white musician with only one name who desires to "start off punk and end up smooth jazz" should quit school, practice odd religions, embrace duets with odd musicians, and start learning the spinnaret, and, further, that one need not stay with one's more talented bandmates any longer than necessary before stealing their thunder and cashing in.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
This is just the beginning of my theories; I have many more that pertain to imagination, alien, dreams, etc. , but I would really like to hear what you have to say if anything.
My advice is that if you are serious about building theories you really should spend some time understanding the current models. I am currently working on one I call the "Oneness Hypothesis" and I can tell you it is slow going to produce something solid. It's an old idea with some weird plot twists, but I figure, if you desire to be taken seriously, you really have to know what you are talking about. Just drawing lines in the sand is not good enough. An elementary school kid can do that. Putting some substance behind your ideas is the key and the tricky part. My working guideline is "Don't expose your buns if they are only half baked."
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
My advice is that if you are serious about building theories you really should spend some time understanding the current models. I am currently working on one I call the "Oneness Hypothesis" and I can tell you it is slow going to produce something solid. It's an old idea with some weird plot twists, but I figure, if you desire to be taken seriously, you really have to know what you are talking about. Just drawing lines in the sand is not good enough. An elementary school kid can do that. Putting some substance behind your ideas is the key and the tricky part. My working guideline is "Don't expose your buns if they are only half baked."

Exactly. I've got a theory I'd like to put out here (on the forums in general), but not until it's completely compatible with the source material.

If you've got a theory, great! But it's best to try fully understanding the source material (in this case, string theory) before drawing connections to other things.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
I think string theory needs to "prove itself" before it can be said to "prove" anything else.
 

horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
But doesn't this say that there was existence before there was creation? What does it mean to have existence before the universe's creation?




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P.S. Sting Theory: Theory developed by London-based music critic Alan Higglethwaite in the early 1980s, which posits that any pasty white musician with only one name who desires to "start off punk and end up smooth jazz" should quit school, practice odd religions, embrace duets with odd musicians, and start learning the spinnaret, and, further, that one need not stay with one's more talented bandmates any longer than necessary before stealing their thunder and cashing in.

Good question, but for creation to happen, wouldn't logic tell you that there must have been something? Interesting to know that physics allowed themselves to learn so much from musicians.
 

horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
:sorry1:I appologize for not responding to my written thread, but as we all know, life has a way to distract us from obligation. Here are a few sites in which explain further of where I got my theory (no offense to anyone, but one that has been well explored and elaborated upon). http://superstringtheory.com/cosmo/cosmo5.html
http://www.physorg.com/news63041667.html
Since the introduction of the M theory, the sting theory has given a theoretical explaniation of the bigbang; one that has an absolute answer. Scientist (ones in acceptance to this theory) are now at a loss as to what may have existed before the bigbang. My reasoning for wanting to discuss this was for the reactions among the scientific comuntiy, as well as the relativity to this forum. My theory is; Before the bigbang, persay, there was a community of energy sourced beings living in absolute harmony (one in which is inpercievable to life as we know it). Let’s say that perhaps for some unknown reason, there was a diversersification between how the community should be run and how it should be ruled (monarchy, democracy, communistic, facist, ect.) therefore causing a conflict. Possibly a reaction to this conflict of negatives and positives was universal? Lol
Just thought I needed to elaborate a bit more and let it be know that this has not been an overnight birth of some theory that just happened upon my interest.;)
 

pastafarian420

New Member
string theory has to do with looking at the perceived notion of particals as "billard balls or dot like things" and instead assume them as one- dimentional strings.The problem with the billard ball idea is that in scenarios involving small, minute motions the math simply won't crunch.If we try the math with the idea of these particals as "strings" the math becomes clearER. What this has to do with your fictional idea of "the big god thing" and "the evil red thing" (which according to the bible GOD created which makes me wonder why god hates evil so much) i haven't the slightist idea. Do you think the "open strings" are evil and the "closed strings" are morally superior? I don't mean to sound condesending in any way but do yourself a favor and put down that fairytale book......:areyoucra
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend horizon mj1,

Does the string theory prove the battle of God and Satan?

Can only say that religion is when all thinking stops. [Only when the Mind STILLS]
Whereas Science is a matter of reasoning which is when the Mind is very very ACTIVE.
So in effect Religion starts where Science ENDS.
They can never MEET.
Love & rgds
 

MindHunter

Member
"Does the string theory prove the battle of God and Satan". Well, christianity and such beliefs are based purely off of faith, requiring little to no scientific evidence. It's something that needs absolutely no proof to be accepted. Applying new, partially understood scientific theories to something that requires no scientific explanations is going to be a challenge, especially when said thing cannot be seen, felt, heard, touched, and there is so much debate over what/how many of said things exist.

If you're going to use something like the M-theory or String Theory, you first have to show its relevance to your theory-in-the-works. How you link this is still beyond me, and how you plan to explain how god and satan interact among these theoretical dimensions/strings/branes is even more beyond me.

This concept of energy-sourced beings in harmony one day getting ****** and blowing each other up is something that to me is very far-fetched. The issue with this, is that it implies that a) this community inhabited all or the majority of space in order to create the Big Bang or b) this community had enough fire-power to create the Big Bang when for whatever reason they got all ****** off.

I think that this is a nice attempt to try and incorporate theoretical and particle physics into religion, however, I think this one is a case for the fairy tales.
 

horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
string theory has to do with looking at the perceived notion of particals as "billard balls or dot like things" and instead assume them as one- dimentional strings.The problem with the billard ball idea is that in scenarios involving small, minute motions the math simply won't crunch.If we try the math with the idea of these particals as "strings" the math becomes clearER. What this has to do with your fictional idea of "the big god thing" and "the evil red thing" (which according to the bible GOD created which makes me wonder why god hates evil so much) i haven't the slightist idea. Do you think the "open strings" are evil and the "closed strings" are morally superior? I don't mean to sound condesending in any way but do yourself a favor and put down that fairytale book......:areyoucra

Aparently you are not aware of the religious notion that God created the universe and that Satan, happens to be His enemy? What I was elaborating on in relation to the string theory is that several scientists believe that they have finally found the last piece of the equation to the Big Bang (which the string theory happens to be the 11th dimention, the math did NOT work out before this was added in case you were unaware). Sorry to see that you are so offended by other points of views that they actually blind you from how the relation is not really that hard to figure out (of course only if you have an open mind and a bit of knowledgable understanding). I do not wish to sound condenscending either, but what part of this aside from maybe a disbelief in God, Gods, Satan, etc. is such a fairytale (of course unless you are one to discount facts as fiction and refuse to realize that science is better at explaining the unexplainable)?
 

horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
I realize now that I really should not have chose the name I did for this thread. The introdution of the string theory to the other 10 dimentions in mathmatical ralation, proves the Big Bang theory. I have always believed that seeking knowledge (through fact and/or probable theory) is one way of seeking the true Creator. I highly respect scientists and their work and was surprised to find out that more and more scientists believe that our universe can not be just left alone without some kind of source/sources to help it run in such an orderly fashion.
 

horizon_mj1

Well-Known Member
"Does the string theory prove the battle of God and Satan". Well, christianity and such beliefs are based purely off of faith, requiring little to no scientific evidence. It's something that needs absolutely no proof to be accepted. Applying new, partially understood scientific theories to something that requires no scientific explanations is going to be a challenge, especially when said thing cannot be seen, felt, heard, touched, and there is so much debate over what/how many of said things exist.

If you're going to use something like the M-theory or String Theory, you first have to show its relevance to your theory-in-the-works. How you link this is still beyond me, and how you plan to explain how god and satan interact among these theoretical dimensions/strings/branes is even more beyond me.

This concept of energy-sourced beings in harmony one day getting ****** and blowing each other up is something that to me is very far-fetched. The issue with this, is that it implies that a) this community inhabited all or the majority of space in order to create the Big Bang or b) this community had enough fire-power to create the Big Bang when for whatever reason they got all ****** off.

I think that this is a nice attempt to try and incorporate theoretical and particle physics into religion, however, I think this one is a case for the fairy tales.

I appriciate your reply and can understand exactly where you are coming from. One of the reasons I chose not to choose a religion throughout my life is due to my respect for science and other things in which most religions can not bring themselves to accept. You may be right, this could just be fairy tale thinking, but I do know this (A) Science believes there was a Big Bang and are now looking for what may have existed before this and (B) Religions (most) believe there was a beginning to good vs. evil, I have yet to see any better time frame for the start of this than the beginning of the known universe.
Granted it may be fairy-tale thinking, but logical fairy-tale thinking.;)
 
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