does this exist?

[IndigoChild5559]

It does have a worth historically though. When a person reads from the scrolls held in the front of a synagogue, what writings do these scrolls contain? All of the Tanach, or just the "five books" of Moses? I realize there were no chapter divisions back then.

It is worth something to Christians, because in the early years of the church, the LXX was its sacred text. But I am a Jew, not a Christian. It has absolutely no worth to me.

 

[YoursTrue]

.The LXX was a very poor Greek Translation of the Tanakh plus some other books. Since I am not a native Greek speaker, it has absolutely no worth to me.

I've been doing a little research about this. Wikipedia says "The general trend in recent scholarship is to recognize the final form of the Torah as a literary and ideological unity, based on earlier sources, likely completed during the Persian period (539-333 BCE).[12][13][14]." Composition of the Torah - Wikipedia
I assume they mean the Pentateuch when they say the Torah. Do you agree? I do not believe wikipedia about everything, but that's what they wrote. Thanks for your opinion.
Later, shalom.

 

[YoursTrue]

It is worth something to Christians, because in the early years of the church, the LXX was its sacred text. But I am a Jew, not a Christian. It has absolutely no worth to me.

Historically it should have a worth. Because it was used by Jews when they couldn't speak or understand Hebrew, wasn't it?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I've been doing a little research about this. Wikipedia says "The general trend in recent scholarship is to recognize the final form of the Torah as a literary and ideological unity, based on earlier sources, likely completed during the Persian period (539-333 BCE).[12][13][14]." Composition of the Torah - Wikipedia
I assume they mean the Pentateuch when they say the Torah. Do you agree? I do not believe wikipedia about everything, but that's what they wrote. Thanks for your opinion.
Later, shalom.

Yes, the Torah has other names, such as Penteteuch, Books of Moses, Books of Law.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Historically it should have a worth. Because it was used by Jews when they couldn't speak or understand Hebrew, wasn't it?

Yes, but you have to understand that in Judaism, no translation is authoritative. Only the Hebrew text is teh Torah/Tanakh. If a Jew is a native Greek speaker and does not speak Hebrew, it makes sense for them to read the LXX, just as if the Jew speaks English and doesn't read Hebrew it makes sense for them to read the Stone Tanakh. But neither the LXX nor the Stone Tanakh are considered the actual Tanakh.

 

[YoursTrue]

Yes, but you have to understand that in Judaism, no translation is authoritative. Only the Hebrew text is teh Torah/Tanakh. If a Jew is a native Greek speaker and does not speak Hebrew, it makes sense for them to read the LXX, just as if the Jew speaks English and doesn't read Hebrew it makes sense for them to read the Stone Tanakh. But neither the LXX nor the Stone Tanakh are considered the actual Tanakh.

From what I understand the majority of Jews centuries ago could not read or speak Hebrew, so that is why the Septuagint version was done.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

From what I understand the majority of Jews centuries ago could not read or speak Hebrew, so that is why the Septuagint version was done.

I don't know if that's true or not, but either way, it has nothing to do with my point. Let's say 95% of Jews today spoke English and not Hebrew. It would not make any English translation authoritative. It would remain true that the Hebrew text was the only real Tanakh.

 

[YoursTrue]

I don't know if that's true or not, but either way, it has nothing to do with my point. Let's say 95% of Jews today spoke English and not Hebrew. It would not make any English translation authoritative. It would remain true that the Hebrew text was the only real Tanakh.

It's not too good, is it, if a person can't understand what they may (or may not) believe their religious books are saying...

 

[IndigoChild5559]

It's not too good, is it, if a person can't understand what they may (or may not) believe their religious books are saying...

You are correct. It is certainly not ideal for any Jew not to be able to read the Torah in the original Hebrew. This is why Jews begin teaching Hebrew to our toddlers. But yes, there certainly exist Jews who are not fluent in Hebrew. I am one. I know only enough Hebrew to follow along in the prayer book.

 

[Left Coast]

Does a being such as this exist?

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Of course not. It's symbolic of God being eternal, holy, having authority, etc.

 

[Massimo2002]

Everyone looks dashing with a beard.

Why do you think that not having a Beard doesn't make a man a man ?

 

[John53]

Why do you think that not having a Beard doesn't make a man a man ?

It's a song from one of my favourite bands.. The Beards

 

[Massimo2002]

It's a song from one of my favourite bands.. The Beards

My bad I didn't know that thanks for informing me I thought that was a serious position that you held.

 

[John53]

My bad I didn't know that thanks for informing me I thought that was a serious position that you held.

I'm not known for my serious positions.

 

[danieldemol]

Anyone with a beard is OK with me because if ya Dad doesn't have a beard you've got two Mums.

How dare you insult my mother... er father

 

[danieldemol]

Does a being such as this exist?

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Is it Santa in the Sauna minus his hat?

 

[Viker]

Does a being such as this exist?

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Looks like one of those Duck Dynasty guys. Phil, I think. Or maybe Si, without glasses.