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Does this show the grave is not just the grave?

Frank Goad

Well-Known Member
Hell, Sheol, Hades, Paradise, and the Grave I found this on this website:

EXAMPLES SHOWING THAT SHEOL IS NOT A BURIAL PLACE​

1. After selling Joseph into slavery, his brothers stained his coat with blood and used it to convince their father that he had been killed by a wild animal (Gen. 37:26-36). Jacob’s sons and daughters tried “to comfort him; but he refused to be comforted; and he said, `for I will go down into the grave (Sheol) unto my son mourning’. Thus his father wept for him” (v. 35).

From Jacob’s words it is clear that he fully intended to eventually be reunited with his son in a tangible way. Obviously then, he did not simply have in mind the idea of joining him in burial as he believed that Joseph’s body had not been buried at all, but was eaten by an animal (v. 33). This being the case, it was impossible for Jacob to think he would join Joseph in burial. Obviously, he looked forward to being reunited with him in the place of the departed dead, not in burial. The word rendered grave in this passage is Sheol, the abode of the souls of those who have died.
 

Frank Goad

Well-Known Member
Hell, Sheol, Hades, Paradise, and the Grave I found this on this website:

EXAMPLES SHOWING THAT SHEOL IS NOT A BURIAL PLACE​

1. After selling Joseph into slavery, his brothers stained his coat with blood and used it to convince their father that he had been killed by a wild animal (Gen. 37:26-36). Jacob’s sons and daughters tried “to comfort him; but he refused to be comforted; and he said, `for I will go down into the grave (Sheol) unto my son mourning’. Thus his father wept for him” (v. 35).

From Jacob’s words it is clear that he fully intended to eventually be reunited with his son in a tangible way. Obviously then, he did not simply have in mind the idea of joining him in burial as he believed that Joseph’s body had not been buried at all, but was eaten by an animal (v. 33). This being the case, it was impossible for Jacob to think he would join Joseph in burial. Obviously, he looked forward to being reunited with him in the place of the departed dead, not in burial. The word rendered grave in this passage is Sheol, the abode of the souls of those who have died.
Why no reply?:(
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
I can imagine that everything happens inside of God, including life/death/birth, etc. In a way, we are both dead and alive. I look at it as if, life on earth is like being formed inside the womb, but we're not viewed to be alive - alive inside the womb, just mostly alive until we are given birth, leaving that womb for yet another womb here on earth as a human individual. When we die, I utilize this same principle. We leave this womb of life, for yet another womb of life, whether by grave or pyre, burial or fire. I'm always living, moving, and having my being inside God, because it's all God, and there is nothing that isn't God.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Hell, Sheol, Hades, Paradise, and the Grave I found this on this website:

EXAMPLES SHOWING THAT SHEOL IS NOT A BURIAL PLACE​

1. After selling Joseph into slavery, his brothers stained his coat with blood and used it to convince their father that he had been killed by a wild animal (Gen. 37:26-36). Jacob’s sons and daughters tried “to comfort him; but he refused to be comforted; and he said, `for I will go down into the grave (Sheol) unto my son mourning’. Thus his father wept for him” (v. 35).

From Jacob’s words it is clear that he fully intended to eventually be reunited with his son in a tangible way. Obviously then, he did not simply have in mind the idea of joining him in burial as he believed that Joseph’s body had not been buried at all, but was eaten by an animal (v. 33). This being the case, it was impossible for Jacob to think he would join Joseph in burial. Obviously, he looked forward to being reunited with him in the place of the departed dead, not in burial. The word rendered grave in this passage is Sheol, the abode of the souls of those who have died.
Yes. dead souls (Ezekiel 18:4,20) because the soul or person that sins: dies
If a dead person or dead soul was alive at death there would be No need for a resurrection - Acts 24:15
Sheol is simply the temporary stone-cold grave for the sleeping dead - Psalm 115:17; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5; John 11:11-14
ALL the dead named in God's Hall of Fame ( Hebrews 11:13,39 ) are still sleeping awaiting a resurrection
A resurrection on Resurrection Day meaning: Jesus' coming Millennium-Long Day governing over Earth for a thousand years
That 'day' is when Jacob and Joseph will be re-united in life again with the opportunity to live forever as Jesus promised - John 6:40,44
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
I see the passage more as him saying he will never stop mourning for all his life. Not so much that he will join his son, but that he will have the same fate, mourning until then.

I also understand "Sheol" as being the unknown that death brings. That's why, IMO, it is interchangeable with other terms for what comes after death. Many cannot accept a simple "unknown" called Sheol.
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
I see the passage more as him saying he will never stop mourning for all his life. Not so much that he will join his son, but that he will have the same fate, mourning until then.

I also understand "Sheol" as being the unknown that death brings. That's why, IMO, it is interchangeable with other terms for what comes after death. Many cannot accept a simple "unknown" called Sheol.

She recycles ... I have no idea what comes next.

I was one of these at one time.
 

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