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Does Your God(s) Exist Objectively?

Does Your God(s) Exist Objectively?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • No

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • Other (explain below)

    Votes: 1 20.0%

  • Total voters
    5

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Assuming objective existence is a thing at all - which is debatable - then yes.

I dwell within an external environment that is not dependent upon my existence to be (that is, it is "objectively existing") and that external environment is gods (that is, things I deem worthy of worship).
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes, I believe God exists objectively. However, I don't necessarily believe he is a blue dude with four arms who rides an anthropomorphic eagle zipping around the universe. I take a more theoretical physics approach in that God is a power, a consciousness, existence itself, that takes many forms due to Its ability to harness Its energy and power. As Sri Krishna said For those whose minds are attached to the unmanifest, the path of realization is full of tribulations. Worship of the unmanifest is exceedingly difficult for embodied beings. Because we're sensory beings, we need to see, touch, and hear, even to imagine. The images and stories help us focus.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Simple question. Feel free to elaborate.
The answer is yes. However if a tree fell in the woods, and you were the only one to hear it, did it make a sound, other than for just you. Would others accept your unique objective observation that nobody else saw? Or would they expect more proof, such as you letting them hear it also, so they can be more objective and not have to use their imagination, deductive and inference skills, and a bit of faith, in you?

If you look at most religions, prayer and mediation is a key part of worship. You learn lessons of your faith and think about them or seek the help of the spirit through prayer. This is an internal process, more connected to introversion than extroversion. Science is about extroversion; examine outside you; see, hear, taste, smell and touch.

Introversion is where we focus our consciousness inwards, where the extrovert cannot see or hear the tree fall. The extroverts needs to perceive through their senses.The introvert can live in an inner world of imagination; neural processing. The creative musician may hear a the riff of a new tune appear in their head, before their ears. They may write it down and then play the notes, so they can hear it outside; second opinion, to stimulate the creative process from both sides and try to maintain a balance.

The human brain is unique, compared to computers, in that it is naturally designed to support consciousness. No computer material or configuration is conscious, by default, in the same way. Any baby born gets consciousness in they have a human brain. It starts small and evolves. The question is, can the human brain support more that one conscious center? This does happen, with multiple personality disorders. But can this also happen in structured ways that are more beneficial to you and others?

I am of the belief that the Divine essence of any faith, can appear, as a passing animation of a secondary consciousness, in the natural matrix of the brain. Both Jesus and Buddha shed the outer man; ego and extrovert, and found their peace talking and growing the inner man; secondary center of consciousness called the inner self. I have been in contact with this for years. I do not hear voice or see visions, but I sense when ideas appears.

Currently AI is all the rave. This is where a computer processes information similar to a person. It works as good as the foundation premises and data you use. It is also possible for the brain, through secondaries unconscious foci to do even better things, for centuries. AI is useful in the sense it will make secondary conscious; NI or natural intelligence, easier to understand. The easiest to see is the Satan subroutine that can have a mind of its own; Devil made me do it, but not anymore.

I sort of use more of an Eastern approach; consciousness science. However, I use Judeo-Christian symbolism since this is my DNA; long term religious selection from Europe. It appears to better align with the layout of my brain's operating system, that was inferred from other direct but introverted observations.
 
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