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Does your religion use astral projection and lucid dreaming?Just curious.:)

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
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I can't not dream lucidly, so... I guess?

I don't use the term "astral projection" in my tradition - so yes/no depends on precisely what is being referenced with it.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Yes, the superstitious think that way. Even the scriptures may include superstitions. But in my religion, one can easily disregard them.
Even belief in God or soul is basically a superstition.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
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Lucid dreaming is a naturally occurring phenomenon for many that really isn’t relevant to one’s religion.

There are meditation practices that are intended to separate the self from the mind through travel to places the body/mind complex is not, so yes.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
So the implication here is that, for secular humanists, these phenomena occur outside the brain?
Not at all. Dreams are products of the brain. Lucid dreams are merely dreams that the dreamer is aware of AS dreams. They happen far more frequently in people with a larger pre-frontal cortex, and who tend to be more self-reflective. I have them myself, perhaps 4 or 5 times a year. I can't initiate them, but I can exercise a little control once I'm in one.

I do not believe astral travel occurs. There has never, ever been a reproducible experiment demonstrating such a thing has happened in reality. Rather, it is again a feature of the brain, in a highly imaginative state, but not going anywhere. Imagination can be very useful, but what is imagined is not real, although it can be reified. August Kekulé may have done something of the kind, for example, when he dozed sitting by the fire contemplating benzene, and dreamt of a snake eating its own tail, and on awakening realized that the the structure of benzene was a structure of a six-member carbon ring of carbon atoms, with alternating single and double bonds.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
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Premium Member
But it doesn't mean you don't have one.

Well, if I do, I'm unaffected by them. If one is unaffected by their enemy, doesn't that render the supposed enemy powerless and irrelevant?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Well, if I do, I'm unaffected by them. If one is unaffected by their enemy, doesn't that render the supposed enemy powerless and irrelevant?
Yes and no. Enemies aren't always "in your face' but rather many times is just manipulating situations, working their way until they can spring it up on you.
 
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