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Doesn't that sound like word of God?

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Right_Path

Member
Imagine this:

Someone livingin the year 610, in an uncivilized community, unlettered, knows nothing about science, and then he comes up with this...in the name of God:

23-12 ''Verily We created man from a product of wet earth''

23-13 ''Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed''

23-14 ''Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood;
then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump;
then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh;
then we developed out of it another creature.
So blessed be Allah, the best to create''

Just compare the above with the era prophet Mohamed PBUH lived in.

Does that sound like the words of a false messenger? ...making up a book for his own purposes?

 
herushura

herushura

Active Member
Sounds similar an Egyptiant God Seti were he Ejaculated and his sperm grew and developed into a Creature/plant
 
Caladan

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
For the person who is versed in history and philosophy, the human mind will always prove its ingenuity, creativity, and grasp of the universe. from centuries before the Christian era, to the renaissance.
its a shame to attribute to the works of human thought a fantastic dimension of the supernatural kind.
In the 19th century no one in Europe thought that the Indians of south America were capable of achieving the wonders of Civilization attributed to them by the Spaniards. until a man called William H. Prescott went to the original unpublished records that lay in Spanish archives. the evidence put forward in his work was so powerful that the doubts were gone.
maybe some day the general public will have access to phenomenal archives that will shed light on the development of human thought. people will come to realize that through out history, there have always existed men that carried the torch of knowledge, and left behind them literary pieces for us to explore, or in the worst case scenario idolize (the way I see it).
 
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herushura

herushura

Active Member
Jayhawker Soule said:
It sounds like deceitful and self-serving interpretation. To pretend that the concept of sperm existed back then is a joke. See here.
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The Word Sperm is related to the word Seed

sperm (www.etymolgy .com) Source.1386, probably from O.Fr. esperme, from L.L. sperma "seed, semen," from Gk. sperma "seed," from speirein "to sow, scatter," from PIE *sper- "to strew" (see sprout). Spermatozoon "male sexual cell" is an 1836 formation from Gk. spermato-, combining form of sperma (gen. spermatos) + zoion "animal." Sperm bank is attested from 1963. Spermicide (n.) first recorded 1929
 
.lava

.lava

Veteran Member
Three Dark Stages of the Baby in the Womb
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In the Qur'an, it is related that man is created through a three-stage process in the mother's womb.
... He creates you stage by stage in your mothers' wombs in threefold darkness. That is Allah, your Lord. Sovereignty is His. There is no god but Him. So what has made you deviate? (Qur'an, 39:6)
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The expression "fee thulumatin thalathin," translated into English as "a threefold darkness," indicates three dark regions involved during the development of the embryo. These are:
The darkness of the abdomen
The darkness of the womb
The darkness of the placenta
As we have seen, modern biology has revealed that the embryological development of the baby takes place in the manner revealed in the verse, in three dark regions. Moreover, advances in the science of embryology show that these regions consist of three layers each.
The lateral abdominal wall comprises three layers: the external oblique, the internal oblique, and transverses abdominis muscles.87
Similarly, the wall of the womb also consists of three layers: the epimetrium, the myometrium and the endometrium.88
Similarly again, the placenta surrounding the embryo also consists of three layers: the amnion (the internal membrane around the fetus), the chorion (the middle amnion layer) and the decidua (outer amnion layer.)89
It is also pointed out in this verse that a human being is created in the mother's womb in three distinct stages.
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Indeed, modern biology has also revealed that the baby's embryological development takes place in three distinct regions in the mother's womb. Today, in all the embryology textbooks studied in departments of medicine, this subject is taken as an element of basic knowledge. For instance, in Basic Human Embryology, a fundamental reference text in the field of embryology, this fact is stated as follows:
The life in the uterus has three stages: pre-embryonic; first two and a half weeks, embryonic; until the end of the eight week, and fetal; from the eight week to labor.
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These phases refer to the different developmental stages of a baby. In brief, the main characteristics of these developmental stages are as follows:


- Pre-embryonic Stage
In this first phase, the zygote grows by division, and when it becomes a cell cluster, it buries itself in the wall of the uterus. While they continue growing, the cells organize themselves in three layers.


- Embryonic Stage
The second phase lasts for five and a half weeks, during which the baby is referred to as an "embryo." During this stage, the basic organs and systems of the body start to appear from the cell layers.


- Foetal Stage
From this stage onward, the embryo is called a "foetus." This phase begins at the eighth week of gestation, and lasts until the moment of birth. The distinctive characteristic of this stage is that the foetus looks much like a human being, with its face, hands and feet. Although it is only 3 cm long initially, all of its organs have become apparent. This phase lasts for about 30 weeks, and development continues until the week of delivery.
Information on the development in the mother's womb became available only after observations with modern devices. Yet, just like many other scientific facts, in a miraculous way, Allah draws our attention to these items of information in the verses of the Qur'an. The fact that such detailed and accurate information was given in the Qur'an at a time when people had scarce information on medical matters is clear evidence that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah.
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for anyone who likes to read more about "Miracles of Qur'an" can visit the site through this link;

http://www.harunyahya.com/miracles_of_the_quran_01.php


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.lava

.lava

Veteran Member
herushura said:
Miracles of Childbirth more like
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haha :D:D nope, it is just a section in it.


THE COMING OF THE UNIVERSE INTO EXISTENCE
THE EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE
THE END OF THE UNIVERSE AND THE BIG CRUNCH
CREATION FROM HOT SMOKE
THE SPLITTING ASUNDER OF "THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH"
THE CREATION OF WHAT LIES BETWEEN THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH
THE PERFECT EQUILIBRIUM IN THE UNIVERSE
THE FINE TUNING IN THE UNIVERSE
THE STRUCTURAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE SUN, THE MOON AND THE STARS
ORBITS AND THE ROTATING UNIVERSE
THE SUN'S TRAJECTORY
THE MOON'S ORBIT
CALCULATING THE LUNAR YEAR
THE FORCE OF GRAVITY AND ORBITAL MOVEMENTS
THE ROUNDNESS OF THE EARTH
THE EARTH'S DIRECTION OF ROTATION
THE EARTH'S GEOID SHAPE
THE DIAMETERS OF THE EARTH AND SPACE
THE LAYERS OF THE ATMOSPHERE
THE PROTECTED ROOF
THE SKY MADE A DOME
THE RETURNING SKY
THE LAYERS OF THE EARTH
THE EARTH DISGORGES ITS CHARGES
THE FUNCTION OF MOUNTAINS
THE MOVEMENT OF MOUNTAINS
DIFFERENT POINTS IN THE RISING AND SETTING OF THE SUN
LAND LOSS AT THE EXTREMITIES
THE SPLITTING EARTH
THE MIRACLE OF IRON
THE FORMATION OF PETROL

and many more, many words so i can not post all of them at once.


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Wandered Off

Wandered Off

Sporadic Driveby Member
It sounds like the word of some guy who said God told him to tell us.

The notion that God has a message intended for all humankind but yet tells just a tiny few raises more questions than it answers.
 
meogi

meogi

Well-Known Member
Right_Path said:
Someone livingin the year 610, in an uncivilized community, unlettered, knows nothing about science, and then he comes up with this...
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Uncivilized or not, it's not hard to 'see' the different stages of development in hunted game, or miscarriages. You give little credit to ingenuity back then... we're not THAT much different.
 
rojse

rojse

RF Addict
.lava said:
but they could not see the process within womb that has 3 parts. do you think people of 6th century had eyes that could see through flesh?
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If hippocrates is discussing semen in the 4th century, as Jay has pointed out, then getting from semen to children seems quite basic, even if we don't have the terminology or observation at hand. It hardly seems necessary to say that we need religious revelation to have this information at hand.
 
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