Donald Trump has created a religion and he is its high priest

[Revoltingest]

@Redneck Mystic posted....

What you asks is impossible to procvide by this world’s standards.

It's the world (material) I live in.

I lived the first 45 years of my life believing God, angels, demoons, the Devil existed. Then there was an event, and I knewr Godo and angels exist, Later events, and I knew the Devil and demons exist. If not in this life, then some day in time and space, you will see differently.

Or you will see as I do...if you're fortunate.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

Glibness might e a good way to attract something you probably do ot care to get to know, but it doesn’t let you know it has arrived and is reeling you in unawares

 

[Revoltingest]

Glibness....

"Pithiness" is more accurate.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

I saw as you see for 45 years, which turned out to be quite unfortunate for me . This is a religious, where some people actually think Jesus existed and he meant it when he spoke of angels, demongs, God and Satan, and when he said to be in but not of this world. I hate to think how you might cope with an event that you could not begin to explain away, despite your strong beliefs.

 

[Revoltingest]

I saw as you see for 45 years, which turned out to be quite unfortunate for me . This is a religious, where some people actually think Jesus existed and he meant it when he spoke of angels, demongs, God and Satan, and when he said to be in but not of this world. I hate to think how you might cope with an event that you could not begin to explain away, despite your strong beliefs.

Actually, tis your beliefs that are strong.
My own are weak. Merely opinions.
I've been an unbeliever for all of my
70 years. No worries.

BTW, if you respond to a post, it's best to
quote it. Then you alert the other poster.
I saw your recent posts to me only because
I looked in on the thread.

 

[Kathryn]

TRUE STORY TIME! (I think I've told this one before but not in this thread, just on this forum somewhere)

So a few years ago, I was a realtor and I listed this house which had every single light fixture and door beaten up, by a teen who had Marilyn Manson lyrics all over his walls in a sharpie pen and also a pentragram drawn on the ceiling above his bed in the same pen, I told the owner that I'd love to list her house but only after it had been repainted and all the doors and light fixtures replaced. She was glad to do it, probably glad to have an excuse to do it. Anyway, I hired a team of guys to paint over the teen's rom, first with KILS of course. So the foreman called me and said that they had painted over the pentagram many times but just the pentagram kept bleeding through and now the team of guys wouldn't go in the room. Well, this ticked me off, so I called a priest and then off I went to the house and I got there before the priest. I asked the foreman how many times they had painted over the pentagram and he said six times. I marched into the room and hung a crucifix in the window and said "In the name of Jesus, get out of here and leave this place and people alone." I felt completely in control. I marched back outside and said to the team, "Go back in there and paint over the pentagram one more time" which they did and it stayed covered. Meanwhile the priest showed up but I think I had already taken care of business. I don't remember what happened next other than the foreman coming back out and saying to me that the pentagram was fully covered now and staying covered.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

Actually, tis your beliefs that are strong.
My own are weak. Merely opinions.
I've been an unbeliever for all of my
70 years. No worries.

 

[Tomef]

I saw as you see for 45 years, which turned out to be quite unfortunate for me . This is a religious, where some people actually think Jesus existed and he meant it when he spoke of angels, demongs, God and Satan, and when he said to be in but not of this world. I hate to think how you might cope with an event that you could not begin to explain away, despite your strong beliefs.

All kinds of stuff I can’t explain. Demons are a bit old hat tho, invented by priests to scare the serfs into serving their masters, or maybe by frustrated self-flagellating types to explain their lapses . You might want to get a bit more Jungian if you want to get your message out, a kind of hybrid approach maybe.

 

[Revoltingest]

TRUE STORY TIME! (I think I've told this one before but not in this thread, just on this forum somewhere)

So a few years ago, I was a realtor and I listed this house which had every single light fixture and door beaten up, by a teen who had Marilyn Manson lyrics all over his walls in a sharpie pen and also a pentragram drawn on the ceiling above his bed in the same pen, I told the owner that I'd love to list her house but only after it had been repainted and all the doors and light fixtures replaced. She was glad to do it, probably glad to have an excuse to do it. Anyway, I hired a team of guys to paint over the teen's rom, first with KILS of course. So the foreman called me and said that they had painted over the pentagram many times but just the pentagram kept bleeding through and now the team of guys wouldn't go in the room. Well, this ticked me off, so I called a priest and then off I went to the house and I got there before the priest. I asked the foreman how many times they had painted over the pentagram and he said six times. I marched into the room and hung a crucifix in the window and said "In the name of Jesus, get out of here and leave this place and people alone." I felt completely in control. I marched back outside and said to the team, "Go back in there and paint over the pentagram one more time" which they did and it stayed covered. Meanwhile the priest showed up but I think I had already taken care of business. I don't remember what happened next other than the foreman coming back out and saying to me that the pentagram was fully covered now and staying covered.

They should'a used Kilz, not Kils.
They only told you they painted it 6 times.
All the while, they snickered behind your back.
"Let's see if she falls for this!"

 

[Redneck Mystic]

Is there any difference between a belief and an opinion? What you think of me is your belief about me. Donald Trump believes he was saved by God, ditto his supports, they could not be more mistaken.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

All kinds of stuff I can’t explain. Demons are a bit old hat tho, invented by priests to scare the serfs into serving their masters, or maybe by frustrated self-flagellating types to explain their lapses . You might want to get a bit more Jungian if you want to get your message out, a kind of hybrid approach maybe.

How to you know priests invented demons? I really want to hear your answer.

 

[Tomef]

How to you know priests invented demons? I really want to hear your answer.

Depends what you mean. Stone Age people seemed to have had some belief in malevolent spiritual entities, you might think of those as demons. Something of that sort appears in older Jewish writings. In the western tradition, though, there are various monsters, dragons etc but the idea of demons that is now a Hollywood staple emerged through art (early church murals etc) and pro-Christian literature (e.g. Beowulf). References to the fallen angels and the devil in the NT as ‘demons’ seems to be anachronistic. The whole Catholic thing isn’t difficult to get, some people really are highly suggestible.

 

[Revoltingest]

Is there any difference between a belief and an opinion?

"Belief" suggests certainty.
"Opinion" suggest speculation.

What you think of me is your belief about me. Donald Trump believes he was saved by God, ditto his supports, they could not be more mistaken.

It would all depend upon the god's goals.
Is it like Loki or Zeus or Lakshmi or....etc.

A god who'd save Trump, & others die, would be a wicked god.
Who's to say the god (or gods) aren't wicked...or diverse.
It's all non-disprovable.
"Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch."
- Wolfgang Pauli

 

[Redneck Mystic]

"Belief" suggests certainty.
"Opinion" suggest speculation.

It would all depend upon the god's goals.
Is it like Loki or Zeus or Lakshmi or....etc.

A god who'd save Trump, & others die, would be a wicked god.
Who's to say the god (or gods) aren't wicked...or diverse.
It's all non-disprovable.
"Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch."
- Wolfgang Pauli

A demon saved Trump. God had nothin to dow it it. But God had plenty to do with Joe Biden resigning, one that devout Catholics strung objections ;-)

 

[Redneck Mystic]

Depends what you mean. Stone Age people seemed to have had some belief in malevolent spiritual entities, you might think of those as demons. Something of that sort appears in older Jewish writings. In the western tradition, though, there are various monsters, dragons etc but the idea of demons that is now a Hollywood staple emerged through art (early church murals etc) and pro-Christian literature (e.g. Beowulf). References to the fallen angels and the devil in the NT as ‘demons’ seems to be anachronistic. The whole Catholic thing isn’t difficult to get, some people really are highly suggestible.

Preists read in the Gospels that Jesus dealt with demons and Satan, that’s where they got the notion such existed, and Jesus, and God, and the Holy Spirit. You know that, I you read the Gospels. So, you didn’t read the Gospels?

In every rreligion old and new, there is recognition of deity, friendly and malevolent entities, except for the New Age,which doesn’t believe Ev il exists, and iEvil is ;pleased about that.

 

[Tomef]

Preists read in the Gospels that Jesus dealt with demons and Satan, that’s where they got the notion such existed, and Jesus, and God, and the Holy Spirit. You know that, I you read the Gospels. So, you didn’t read the Gospels?

In every rreligion old and new, there is recognition of deity, friendly and malevolent entities, except for the New Age,which doesn’t believe Ev il exists, and iEvil is ;pleased about that.

Who do you think wrote them? The NT passages, as described, seem to be cases of epilepsy and mental illness. Religious types, writing decades after Christ, can hardly be taken as legitimate sources in any case.

It could be they had something similar in mind to the demons in movies like the exorcist, but ‘demons’ as you or I imagine them seem to have more in common with medieval conceptions, pitchforks, spewing fire and so on.

 

[fantome profane]

Coffee contains caffeine, which is addictive. A demon is something else altogether, and if you wish to be glib about it, that’s your choice. I’m kindly puzzled why in a religous forum, there are so many people who share your glibness.

Welcome to RF.

 

[Redneck Mystic]

So you have read the Gospels and pretended to me that you didn’t know where priests got the notion that demons, God, angels, the Deivl exist. I think I recall Jesus in the Gospels called Satan is the Father of Lies.

 

[fantome profane]

So you have read the Gospels and pretended to me that you didn’t know where priests got the notion that demons, God, angels, the Deivl exist. I think I recall Jesus in the Gospels called Satan is the Father of Lies.

You should maybe quote or tag @Tomef so they know you have asked a question.

But in the meantime, let me ask you a question. Where did those who wrote those gospels get the idea of demons from? And if you say the old testament, where did those people who wrote the old testament get the ideal of demons from?

Certainly we can trace the idea back through different cultures and see how it has changed and evolved. But although these stories are entertaining, they are not evidence that would lead a reasonable person to seriously consider the idea that Demons are responsible for Trump or the Maga movement. No, that can easily be explained by human evil and human stupidity.

 

[Tomef]

So you have read the Gospels and pretended to me that you didn’t know where priests got the notion that demons, God, angels, the Deivl exist. I think I recall Jesus in the Gospels called Satan is the Father of Lies.

Wow you really are an idiot. I thought you were pretending.