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Draft Dodger Wants Military Parade

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Why is a parade garbage? I think the money is spent better elsewhere. Why does America claim support the vets then get pissed if you give them any due?
An egotistical display demanded of the people by a narcissist is what is garbage. I could think of much better ways to support vets than parades (housing, good health care and not putting them in harm's way just so sime rich person can become richer being some examples). Nothing wrong with a parade but there's plenty of those.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
An egotistical display demanded of the people by a narcissist is what is garbage. I could think of much better ways to aupport them than parades. Nothing wrong with a parade but there's plenty of those.
I don't read Trump's tweets or listen to his speeches, & I've not seen his given
reasons for wanting a military parade. How do we know it's just for him personally?

The criticism I've seen for the parade looks mistaken. The cost wouldn't be significantly
more than a presidential vacation. (Same order of magnitude as a week in Hawaii.)
The problem I see is that it sends a provocative message to unfriendly countries.
It certainly can't help us in the mid-east, where so many Muslims see us as oppressive
both in person & by proxy. Iran would be more nervous, & feel the need for its own
nuclear deterrent. The examples go on & on.
So if we must have a parade, let it be sans weapons....a cheaper & safer form of pride.
 

Holdasown

Active Member
Would it make much more moral sense to spend the money that would go into Trump's parade on actually helping vets with their medical bills, including combating ptsd?

Answered that already. Not my fault you can't get it cause you are too busy hating me for not hating Trump. He's not Satan or Jesus. He's a guy who won an election.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Answered that already. Not my fault you can't get it cause you are too busy hating me for not hating Trump. He's not Satan or Jesus. He's a guy who won an election.
Haters gonna hate.
And Trump isn't even a real draft dodger.
But it's easier to hate with that label.
(It makes it more about him than the issue.)

I'm proud that I actually broke the law when I dodged it.
Anyone who doesn't like that can take a flying leap at a rolling donut.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Answered that already. Not my fault you can't get it cause you are too busy hating me for not hating Trump. He's not Satan or Jesus. He's a guy who won an election.
I don't hate anyone, so you're barking up the wrong tree. Maybe it's a matter of your own "projection" that you're responding to.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
The problem I see is that it sends a provocative message to unfriendly countries.
It certainly can't help us in the mid-east, where so many Muslims see us as oppressive
both in person & by proxy. Iran would be more nervous, & feel the need for its own
nuclear deterrent. The examples go on & on.
It sends a provocative message to everyone!

And this is not coming from some pip-squeak country like France. It's coming from the world's sole-remaining-superpower, with a military budget bigger than the next 10 budgets combined. With Donald Trump having his finger on The Button.
Tom
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Dang, ya needn't yell at me.
But it's necessary!
Mrs Revoltingest explained that to me under circumstances that...
Well...
I forget. I forget how I knew that!

I think the harm done is limited to our foes.
Everyone knows that we are a loose cannon of a super power. With a second rate reality TV star at the helm of the Free World.
The damage is not to our foes. Putin doesn't seem to have a problem with your vote at all.
Tom
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Everyone knows that we are a loose cannon of a super power. With a second rate reality TV star at the helm of the Free World.
The damage is not to our foes. Putin doesn't seem to have a problem with your vote at all.
Tom
I think you're making this too much about hating Trump.
No matter who is Prez, brandishing weaponry while threatening
others is more of a relationship problem with foes than with friends.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I think you're making this too much about hating Trump.
I think that talking about the president in realistic terms is the way to go.
You think that is hating Trump.

That's a big problem with talking about Trump to Trump supporters. Being realistic about the current situation is dismissed as liberal angst or Hillary worship. Trump supporters don't seem willing to talk about the current reality, you always want to change the subject to Obama or Clinton or something else.
Tom
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
No matter who is Prez, brandishing weaponry while threatening
others is more of a relationship problem with foes than with friends.
No, it's more of a problem for friends.
Foes, like Trump's buddy Putin, already do it and understand why it's important for certain kinds of government.
Freedom loving democracies, such as Great Britain, don't like that kind of display. They put their faith in their values instead of their bombs.
Tom
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think that talking about the president in realistic terms is the way to go.
You think that is hating Trump.
That's a big problem with talking about Trump to Trump supporters. Being realistic about the current situation is dismissed as liberal angst or Hillary worship. Trump supporters don't seem willing to talk about the current reality, you always want to change the subject to Obama or Clinton or something else.
Tom
I think the extreme vitriol directed at Trump is a problem mostly for
the ones expressing it, interfering with objective consideration of policy.
When baldness, jokes & parades become more important than tax &
immigration reform, it's silly instead of productive....although it's great fun.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I think the extreme vitriol directed at Trump is a problem mostly for
the ones expressing it
Of course you do.
You don't care that Trump appointed Flynn to the top Security post. You don't care that Trump fired the top FBI agent investigating Trump's staff for foreign, anti-American, staffers. You applaud Assange for committing crimes that served your partisan interests.
Fine.
You hate America. You don't like democracy, when it interferes with your tax rates. You don't have a problem with Trump's lies, because he will protect your privilege for as long as you want it.

Bless Your Heart!

Tom
 
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Akivah

Well-Known Member
If you follow the links on that Wiki page most of the parades are 'Welcome Home' or part of a festival. Not a 'mine is bigger than yours' sort of parade; they are only held by despotic regimes.

Australia, Belgium, Canada, France, etc are despotic regimes?
 
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