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Dragons, Unicorns, 'Mythical' Creatures, and Humans

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
Please note, first of all, that I was careful to keep this in the 'discussion' section, since debating the subject was not my intent.

What is your favorite mythical animal? Is this animal one you would consider your totem animal, or a helping spirit? What attributes do you think you share, or do you think others here on RF share with that animal? (Keeping it kind, of course!)

Do you think there's any reason to believe that these creatures can manifest themselves in this reality? Do you think it really matters?

These questions can be applied to many faiths, since your favorite spiritual leader may have been allegorically compared to such a creature. If that's the case, why do you enjoy that spiritual leader, and please tell us about why they have been compared.

Also, do you have any favorite stories about such animals?
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
The dragon plain and simple, they are almost always extremely intelligent, or wise(both traits I aspire to), sometimes they are cruel( :( ) but sometimes they are kind/generous/protective of humans( :) ).

My favorite story is the report of the roman legion who fought one. I will post the source if I can remember/find it.

Edit: Note, I generally prefer the eastern portrayal of dragon-kind than the western.
 

No*s

Captain Obvious
I like the dragon :). I believe that there is some basis for the story, possibly in multiple animals or one animal way back when, but I don't know.

My favorite story with a dragon has got to be either Beowulf or the slaying of the dragon by St. George (which is probably the one Mr. Emu refers to).

Like Mr. Emu, I like western dragons :p
 

Master Vigil

Well-Known Member
My guides are all wolves. Nothing mythological about them. :( But from my easter studies and spiritual side... The dragon rocks!!!!!!!! *as "Spirited Away" pops up in head. :D
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
which is probably the one Mr. Emu refers to).
Sorry No*s, I refer to a roman legion who battled a rather large lizardesque creature, I need to find the source, but I am sure this is purported to be a true report given by a (Tribune? Legate?). That is why I like it best :)

Like Mr. Emu, I like western dragons
I said I prefer eastern :p though I do like their western cousins as well.
 

No*s

Captain Obvious
Mister Emu said:
Sorry No*s, I refer to a roman legion who battled a rather large lizardesque creature, I need to find the source, but I am sure this is purported to be a true report given by a (Tribune? Legate?). That is why I like it best :)

Ah. OK :). That's a very famous fight between a Roman and a dragon I mentioned lol.


Mister Emu said:
I said I prefer eastern :p though I do like their western cousins as well.

I wonder how I misread that. That's embarassing :eek:
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
That's a very famous fight between a Roman and a dragon I mentioned lol.
Yeah, I know alot of dragon stories, but I like that one because if it is true(if it is a roman legate/tribune/whatever's report than it is most likely true, from what I know of roman military they didn't take well to false reports), than dragons were bad mothers, taking on a whole legion and almost wiping them out.(Only got killed because it was near rocky gorge terrain and they crushed it under tons of rocks).

I wonder how I misread that. That's embarassing
All good.
 

No*s

Captain Obvious
Mister Emu said:
Yeah, I know alot of dragon stories, but I like that one because if it is true(if it is a roman legate/tribune/whatever's report than it is most likely true, from what I know of roman military they didn't take well to false reports), than dragons were bad mothers, taking on a whole legion and almost wiping them out.(Only got killed because it was near rocky gorge terrain and they crushed it under tons of rocks).

I'm surprised I haven't run into this report. I almost have an obsession with Roman stuff over anything in the Empire's 2000 year history.

Of course, the Roman view of failure could also be a driving force for fabricating the story (I don't see how it would succeed very long, but it would be something I could picture people attempting).
 

Bastet

Vile Stove-Toucher
Another dragon lover here...although I had quite a fixation on the phoenix for a while there. :p
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
I loved "Sprited Away," Master Vigil! I couldn't tell if the creature that oozed into the baths (the one that Sen pullled the bike and debris from) was also a dragon or not, since it was the spirit of a polluted river, but I loved that scene! (I was so worried that when Haku learned what his real name was, and his feathers/ scales shattered around them, that both he and Sen would fall straight down to earth!)

I imagine it comes as no suprise to anyone that my favorite creature is the unicorn. I grew up fascinated with them and continue to be. It is my spirit animal, and it took me awhle before I was able to comprehend that.

There are said to be four different types of unicorns. All of them originated from different places, but they tend to share the same attributes. The 'European' version is the one that people tend to think of instantly, the one that most people see as being a horse with a horn. (I think it's more goat-like in its energy, and more like a deer in its approach to its surroundings.)

For the next descriptions, since I'm not as familiar with them, I apologize for paraphrasing from the book "A Natural History of Dragons and Unicorns", by Paul and Karin Johnsgard. It's a wonderful book, and I'd recommend it for dragon lovers, too!

I'd previously mentioned the karkadann in another thread. It was said to inhabit the plains of India, Persia, and bits of north eastern Africa. This is the only unicorn known for its ferocity, and it was reputed to look like an oryx. It was as big as a rhinocerous and had a lion-like tail. It is said that when it ran, the earth shook, although it appears to have loved the ring dove so much that it would spend long amounts of time under their nests, guarding them and admiring their beauty.

My favorite version, and the one that I empathize most with, is the ki-lin (sometimes called kirin). It tended to frequent Asia, especially Tibet and Japan. The creature was known for walking carefully, minding each step so that it would not harm another creature. Its back is covered with heavy spots, which resulted in one of my favorite unicorn stories. The Chinese emperor Fu Hsi, while musing by the Yellow River, was thinking of the difficulty in making lasting contributions to society. He glanced up to see a strange, deerlike creature, standing by the shore. Whereever it stood in the muddy water of the river, the water became clear. As the creature retreated, the emperor noticed the strange markings on the creature, and he was so taken with them that he began tracing these symbols on the ground in front of him. He suddenly realized that these markings could be used to portray concepts and words, and thus the written Chinese language was born. (Here's one of my favorite pictures of that scene.)

kilin.jpg


I find it funny, since all but one of my helper animals (Unicorn, Raven and Spider) are associated with the written language. Fox just has to be a trouble-maker!

The last one, normally said to be a variation on the ki-lin, is also called the kirin, the Japanese unicorn. (Also called the sin-you.) This version, physically like the ki-lin, but possessing sinews more akin to a lion) has the same hatred for injustice that the others posses, but it seems to take a more direct route to dealing with it. If a person was put in front of a kirin and they told a lie, the kirin would pierce the person's heart with their horn.

Its name is also now used for describing a giraffe, and it lends its image to a popular brewing company.

kirinbeer.gif


A unicorn's gentle nature, and pleading looks is also credited with persuading Ghenghis Khan to turn back on his way to India.

Julius Caesar once wrote about seeing a unicorn, and it is said by some that Bucephalus, the critter that Alexander the Great rode, was a unicorn.

I'll admit, the attributes that I see in myself that the unicorn posesses are ones that I have to remind myself aren't bad things. Its gentle nature, (normal) kindness to other forms of life, and outrage against injustice are things that I was picked on for as a child, and I'm only now learning to celebrate these traits instead of be ashamed by them.​
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
I'm certain that you'll be able to paint even better! (Which seems blaphemous, since I love that painting so much.) I was suprised to find it online, as I looked up Fu Hsi , since I've got it in one of my research books, and have been in love with it ever since. I wish I could get the proportions right when posting it, since it winds up being a bit blurry...

I'll just have to bring the book to the RF convention, hehee!
 

Unedited

Active Member
I think my favorite mythological creature has to be the mermaids. I really don't have a good reason why, I've just always been fascinated by them. I've also always felt somehow connected to being in the water. I remember watching the movie Splash before I could even speak English, but I loved it! I also wore out my copy of The Little Mermaid. I don't know much about mermaids beyond the hollywood portrayal of them though.
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
Unedited said:
I think my favorite mythological creature has to be the mermaids. I really don't have a good reason why, I've just always been fascinated by them. I've also always felt somehow connected to being in the water. I remember watching the movie Splash before I could even speak English, but I loved it! I also wore out my copy of The Little Mermaid. I don't know much about mermaids beyond the hollywood portrayal of them though.
They're beautiful creatures, and I love their connection with the water! You might enjoy a statue they have over at Sacred Source...

MRD.JPG


They describe her journey as being akin to shamanic transformation. It's truly beautiful!
 

Unedited

Active Member
FeathersinHair said:
They're beautiful creatures, and I love their connection with the water! You might enjoy a statue they have over at Sacred Source...

MRD.JPG


They describe her journey as being akin to shamanic transformation. It's truly beautiful!
Thank you, it is very beautiful. :)
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
I'm going to have to cheat here; there are two creatures that I have always been 'drawn to' - perhaps they even represent the two opposinf facets of my character.
The first, the one I grew up with, is the unicorn; I love your ki-lin Feathers, and I allways, as a child, wanted to draw unicorns (and that is kind of funny since I am totally incapable of drawing ). Now, whilst still having a bond with the unicorn, I find a great affinity with the Golden Eagle - which makes me confront my own seemingly inability to come to terms with nature's cruelty - as I see it - I hate the idea of the Eagle feeding off any small mammals,

Perhaps this is my prime dilemma; I want the 'nice bits' but not the 'bad bits' of Nature, and find it so hard to have to accept nature's ways.

I bought Marie a statue of a golden Eagle years ago, just about the time I had to retire, That was a mistake, because I offered to take on the cleaning duties in the house. Our poor Eagle ended up in the dustbin when, one day, Marie had a good look at him, and found out about my very poor attemps at repairing him each time I was clumsy whilst cleaning! The strange thing about the Eagle is that he represents yet another great 'contradiction' in my character; he is a solitary being, and that is the facet of my character I wish I could overcome.

I have found, on the web, a picture that goes half way to doing him justice - and oh, Bastet, I could'nt help but think of your Scottish ancestry when thinking of 'my' eagle; those rugged misty passes of Glencoe - if I could fly, like my Eagle, Scotland would be my home - the harsh unrelenting sheer beauty of the brutality of the terrain calls to me.
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
The kitsune is definately my favorite mythological animal. I just can't get enough of them for some reason. :D One of my favorite stories involving kitsune involves the phrase "kitsune no yomeiri" (fox's wedding), since according to legend if you look carefully on the horizon when the sun is shining while it's raining, you can see a kitsune's wedding procession.

Here's another of my favorite kitsune stories:

"Once a man set out on horseback in search of a good wife. In a field he came across a pretty young girl. He winked at her and asked, "Where are you going, Miss?"

"I am looking for a good husband," she answered. So he asked, "Will you be my wife?" and, when she agreed, he took her to his house and married her. Before long she became pregnant and gave birth to a boy. At the same time their dog also gave birth to a puppy. This puppy barked constantly at the mistress and seemed fierce and ready to bite. She became so frightened that she asked her husband to beat the dog to death. But he felt sorry for the dog and could not bear to kill it.

A few months later, his wife went to the place where the female servants were pounding rice in a mortar to give them some refreshments. The dog, seeing her, ran after her barking and almost bit her. Startled and terrified, she suddenly changed into a wild fox and jumped up on top of the hedge.

Having seen this, the man said, "Since a child was born between us, I cannot forget you. Please come always and sleep with me." She acted in accordance with her husband's words and came and slept with him."


It may sound a little crude towards the end, but it's mostly a play on classical Japanese words, since "kitsu-ne" means "come and sleep," while "ki-tsune" means "always comes."

And augh, curse you, Feathers and MV! Now I want to watch Spirited Away again! :)
 
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