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[We Never Know]

I'm covering more than one thread wherein your posts
have been (IMO) discouraging vaccination by omission
& by ridiculing those who got the shots, eg, claiming
it's out of fear, that we got the shots only to "save my
own ****".
Given the danger posed by Covid, it is our responsibility
to not post misinformation that would lead people to
do unsafe things (IMO).

So are you trying to detail this thread by trying to bring other thread conversation into it?

 

[Revoltingest]

"Are you immune to Covid-19 now that you are fully vaccinated?
Are you now immune, and incapable of infecting anyone?"

Of course not. I've regularly covered less than
100% efficacy in vaccines....all vaccines.
Those are challenging questions I see so often
used to deny (IMO) the usefulness of vaccination.

"I don't know.
I still take other precautions.
Do you oppose them?"

What does science says about what you don't know?

That part of your post appears unclear.

 

[Revoltingest]

With an abstract and study that takes several minutes to read(probably more than five), unless your are the fastest reader alive, then I have a good idea when you replied within one minute.

What does science says? More study is needed or we need no more studies?
Direct answers please.

An Updated Review of SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines and the Importance of Effective Vaccination Programs in Pandemic Times

This isn't about what I've read or your presumptions about it (IMO).
I challenge the usefulness of challenging the vaccines
being having been not studied enuf. This (IMO) calls
into question their safety because it's criticism not
balanced by studies showing the great efficacy of
vaccination.

 

[Revoltingest]

So are you trying to detail this thread by trying to bring other thread conversation into it?

I'm covering as many details as necessary,
but not excessively.

 

[We Never Know]

I'm covering as many details as necessary,
but not excessively.

If you want to discuss ivermectin with someone, then I would suggest going to the ivermectin thread please and stop trying to derail this one by taking it off topic from the study in the OP.

 

[Revoltingest]

Avoiding all questions then?... Okay.
Back to the thread then. Um...

If you ask reasonable questions & not a Gish Gallop, I'll answer.
It can be hard to discern which are sincere, & not rhetorical,
eg, asking about my staying in my home the rest of my life.
Addressing that would be a waste of my time.

 

[We Never Know]

This isn't about what I've read or your presumptions about it (IMO).
I challenge the usefulness of challenging the vaccines
being having been not studied enuf. This (IMO) calls
into question their safety because it's criticism not
balanced by studies showing the great efficacy of
vaccination.

Why do you disagree with science?

Conclusions and Future Directions
Vaccination is playing a central role in the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, impeding new infections, while saving millions of lives. However, there is no denying the fact that it is only the starting point and there are still many issues to address, such as unraveling the virulence ability of SARS-CoV-2 and choosing suitable experimental models and designs for clinical trials, and more robust scientific evidence is needed to fully evaluate the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines.

An Updated Review of SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines and the Importance of Effective Vaccination Programs in Pandemic Times

 

[Revoltingest]

If you want to discuss ivermectin with someone, then I would suggest going to the ivermectin thread please and stop trying to derail this one by taking it off topic from the study in the OP.

Threads meander.
Topics merge.
I address the posts made to me.

 

[We Never Know]

Threads meander.
Topics merge.
I address the posts made to me.

Where in this thread was ivermectin ever brought up besides you?

 

[Revoltingest]

Why do you disagree with science?

A loaded question, eh.
I strongly suspect that I've more a background
in science than dost thou, so that wouldn't be a
productive line of questioning for you.
Let's keep this less personal, & stick to issues.

 

[nPeace]

If you ask reasonable questions & not a Gish Gallop, I'll answer.
It can be hard to discern which are sincere, & not rhetorical,
eg, asking about my staying in my home the rest of my life.
Addressing that would be a waste of my time.

You call it that as a convenience.
You said taking the vaccine is good for them.
I asked if it was good for those that died taking it.
You refused to answer, by using distractions.
That says everything we need to know.

I'll just gallop along then. See yah.

 

[Revoltingest]

Where in this thread was ivermectin ever brought up besides you?

I posted what I thought was relevant.
I recognize that you disagree.

 

[Deeje]

The vaccines are free.

Someone is paying for them.....the drug companies are not getting rich because of their altruism.....

 

[We Never Know]

A loaded question, eh.
I strongly suspect that I've more a background
in science than dost thou, so that wouldn't be a
productive line of questioning for you.
Let's keep this less personal, & stick to issues.

Less Personal!
You claimed I said ivermectin was good and the vaccine bad. Which I never did.

You again claim i'm discrediting the vaccine by posting science that's says more studies are needed.

Now you are trying to derail this thread by trying to merge it with the other thread with your replies.

I susppect sooner or later the mods will lock this thread down which in ny opinion is what you are after.

 

[Revoltingest]

You call it that as a convenience.
You said taking the vaccine is good for them.
I asked if it was good for those that died taking it.
You refused to answer, by using distractions.
that says everything we need to know.

The question about those who died from vaccination
is poorly phrased if indeed you intended it to be a
real question, & not merely rhetorical (IMO).

Instead, I recommend that you ask...
"How many have died from vaccination, vs how many
have died from Covid? Has vaccination reduced
infection & severity of Covid?"

Had you asked those questions, this discussion
would be more productive.

 

[Revoltingest]

Someone is paying for them.....the drug companies are not getting rich because of their altruism.....

I'm a capitalist, not a communist or socialist. So I've
no objection to companies being paid for product.

 

[We Never Know]

I posted what I thought was relevant.
I recognize that you disagree.

Several of your posts where irrelevant. There is a thread about ivermectin and that's where your posts should be.

 

[nPeace]

Why do you disagree with science?

Conclusions and Future Directions
Vaccination is playing a central role in the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, impeding new infections, while saving millions of lives. However, there is no denying the fact that it is only the starting point and there are still many issues to address, such as unraveling the virulence ability of SARS-CoV-2 and choosing suitable experimental models and designs for clinical trials, and more robust scientific evidence is needed to fully evaluate the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines.

An Updated Review of SARS-CoV-2 Vaccines and the Importance of Effective Vaccination Programs in Pandemic Times

"five vaccines in phase IV trials"?
That's interesting. i wonder what phase they are at currently. This will make for some interesting research... I think.

 

[Revoltingest]

Less Personal!
You claimed I said ivermectin was good and the vaccine bad. Which I never did.

That's not an accurate representation of my claims (IMO).
I recommend using the quote function.

You again claim i'm discrediting the vaccine by posting science that's says more studies are needed.

I've tried to be careful to say that your posts potentially
discourage vaccination.

Now you are trying to derail this thread by trying to merge it with the other thread with your replies.

I don't intend derailment.

I susppect sooner or later the mods will lock this thread down which in ny opinion is what you are after.

Yes, you've been quite candid about my faults.
But you've missed one....I'm obsessive...I pursue what
I believe in. I've no secret agenda or ulterior objective.

BTW, I never try to get threads locked.
I loathe that happening...which is no comment on moderation.
Just a recognition that discussions should be productive.

 

[nPeace]

@We Never Know, I just came across this video, and just could not believe my ears. Talk about missed information.