EEEK! Baring One's Breasts in Public: Incident #2,878

[Skwim]

"A mother fights back after she said she was kicked out of a local Walmart for taking a stand on breastfeeding her baby in public.

Sarah Olson, 22, said she was breastfeeding her 5-month-old daughter inside a Subway restaurant last Friday.

That’s when she said a Subway manager, someone she knows, asked her to cover up or breastfeed at the back of the store.

He said if it’s my legal right then he could whip out his penis anywhere,” says Olson.

Shocked by what he allegedly said, Olson took her concerns to a Walmart store manager who later asked her to leave the store.

She recorded part of that conversation on her sister’s cellphone and shared it with KIRO 7.

“Where I am welcome, breastfeeding is welcome, that is state law,” Olson was heard saying on the recording."
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*Sigh*

 

[Buddha Dharma]

I don't understand why people freak out about the natural act of a mother feeding. Unthinking puritanism I guess, or more 'shelter the children' mentality. Kids might be exposed to something in the real world if they see that- before reaching the age when they have to face the real world, ready or not.

 

[metis]

When I last was in Jerusalem, a woman who grew up in New York but was now living in Israel who I was sitting next to at a dinner was openly breast feeding, and I asked her if she had difficulty doing so publicly after moving there from NY? She said that several years ago that she was breast feeding her oldest child in a restaurant, and there was an American man at a nearby table with a frown on his face seeing her nursing her child, and she said that she got so mad that she pulled her whole top down and asked the man whether seeing both of them made him twice as mad?!

He walked out, and she said that she'd never had a problem since.

 

[Frater Sisyphus]

If she had her vagina out in the open, then what the guy said would be relevant.

Breasts, boobs, tits, knockers: whatever you want to call them, naturally serve the purpose of childcare before any sexual uses that us homosapiens have turned into a cause for arousal.

If anything, breastfeeding your child in public deserves a bravery award (as I know how weary woman tend to be of men in general - yes we have pervy ape brains)

People of that conservative mindset really should just look the other way and walk past, it's not (in most places now) illegal, so it's none of his business!

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I don't understand why people freak out about the natural act of a mother feeding. Unthinking puritanism I guess, or more 'shelter the children' mentality. Kids might be exposed to something in the real world if they see that- before reaching the age when they have to face the real world, ready or not.

I think it has to do with lack of exposure outside specific contexts. I've done medical massage therapy and PT for years and that often means helping more frail patients dress. I see a lot of nudity outside a sexual context and as such it does not shock me the way it does for many folk.

I think the same is true of what we eat too. There's a lot of mental disconnect for your average suburbanite between what's at the farm and what's on your plate.

 

[Enoch07]

Breasts, boobs, tits, knockers: whatever you want to call them, naturally serve the purpose of childcare before any sexual uses that us homosapiens have turned into a cause for arousal

Urinating and p00ping are natural, and used far more often than for sexual arousal. So why is it not ok to pee or p00p out in the open for everyone to see then?

 

[Father Heathen]

Urinating and p00ping are natural, and used far more often than for sexual arousal. So why is it not ok to pee or p00p out in the open for everyone to see then?

So you're actually comparing breast feeding to defecation and urination? To humor your stupid analogy, waste obviously possesses a health and sanitation issue. Also, nipples aren't even in the same ballpark as anuses and genitals. If you're afraid of a nipple, then you really need to man up.

 

[Skwim]

So you're actually comparing breast feeding to defecation and urination? To humor your stupid analogy, waste obviously possesses a health and sanitation issue. Also, nipples aren't even in the same ballpark as anuses and genitals. If you're afraid of a nipple, then you really need to man up.

I believe Enoch07 is trolling.

 

[Father Heathen]

I believe Enoch07 is trolling.

Well, Poe's Law and all that.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

"A mother fights back after she said she was kicked out of a local Walmart for taking a stand on breastfeeding her baby in public.

Sarah Olson, 22, said she was breastfeeding her 5-month-old daughter inside a Subway restaurant last Friday.

That’s when she said a Subway manager, someone she knows, asked her to cover up or breastfeed at the back of the store.

He said if it’s my legal right then he could whip out his penis anywhere,” says Olson.

Shocked by what he allegedly said, Olson took her concerns to a Walmart store manager who later asked her to leave the store.

She recorded part of that conversation on her sister’s cellphone and shared it with KIRO 7.

“Where I am welcome, breastfeeding is welcome, that is state law,” Olson was heard saying on the recording."
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*Sigh*

I whip my tit out and everyone says to put it back.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

So you're actually comparing breast feeding to defecation and urination? To humor your stupid analogy, waste obviously possesses a health and sanitation issue. Also, nipples aren't even in the same ballpark as anuses and genitals. If you're afraid of a nipple, then you really need to man up.

Nipples scare me.

 

[Enoch07]

So you're actually comparing breast feeding to defecation and urination? To humor your stupid analogy, waste obviously possesses a health and sanitation issue. Also, nipples aren't even in the same ballpark as anuses and genitals. If you're afraid of a nipple, then you really need to man up.

Nope read the post again, and try not to get all butt hurt about it. Nobody is afraid of a nipple.

It's about natural the bodily function of breast feeding. Urination, flatulation, and defecation are also natural bodily functions. So why is it they are not (socially) acceptable in public and breast feeding should be?

Your health and sanitation excuse is not valid. Waste is all around us, we are bombarded by bird urine and feces 24 hours a day. Ground animals urinate and defecate all around us 24 hours a day. We have vast sewer systems that carry waste water under our feet in pipes to be recycled at a waste water treatment facility and then returned to the environment to be reused and consumed over and over.

We are talking about the socially acceptable aspect of natural bodily functions. Why should breast feeding be allowed, but not urinating, flatulence, or defecating in public?

Personally, I don't care. If a mother wants to breast feed in public, I am fine with it.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Nope read the post again, and try not to get all butt hurt about it. Nobody is afraid of a nipple.

It's about natural the bodily function of breast feeding. Urination, flatulation, and defecation are also natural bodily functions. So why is it they are not (socially) acceptable in public and breast feeding should be?

Your health and sanitation excuse is not valid. Waste is all around us, we are bombarded by bird urine and feces 24 hours a day. Ground animals urinate and defecate all around us 24 hours a day. We have vast sewer systems that carry waste water under our feet in pipes to be recycled at a waste water treatment facility and then returned to the environment to be reused and consumed over and over.

We are talking about the socially acceptable aspect of natural bodily functions. Why should breast feeding be allowed, but not urinating, flatulence, or defecating in public?

Personally, I don't care. If a mother wants to breast feed in public, I am fine with it.

Probaly because eating is an acceptable societal display. I get no sexual arousal out of watching an infink eat.

 

[Enoch07]

Probaly because eating is an acceptable societal display. I get no sexual arousal out of watching an infink eat.

That is debatable. Some people have a food fetish. Urination, flatulation, and defecation are also fetishes as well. There is even a milking fetish where men/women seek out lactating women to imbibe and bathe in human breast milk for sexual gratification.

None of the these are typically sexual, but have been sexualized. It's hard to think of anything that hasn't been sexualized matter of fact. Which is indictive of a problem in itself, but that's another topic for another thread.

So why is public breast feeding socially more acceptable by some, than public urination, flatulence, and defecation?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

"A mother fights back after she said she was kicked out of a local Walmart for taking a stand on breastfeeding her baby in public.

Sarah Olson, 22, said she was breastfeeding her 5-month-old daughter inside a Subway restaurant last Friday.

That’s when she said a Subway manager, someone she knows, asked her to cover up or breastfeed at the back of the store.

He said if it’s my legal right then he could whip out his penis anywhere,” says Olson.

Shocked by what he allegedly said, Olson took her concerns to a Walmart store manager who later asked her to leave the store.

She recorded part of that conversation on her sister’s cellphone and shared it with KIRO 7.

“Where I am welcome, breastfeeding is welcome, that is state law,” Olson was heard saying on the recording."
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*Sigh*

I live in constant hope that Americans will one day mature enough to deal with things like sex, the human body, natural functions and such like. Unfortunately, I'm a bit old to hope that it will happen during my lifetime.

On the other hand, it wasn't that long ago that I was out with a bunch of friends for brunch, and one mother of a very young girl had to give in to that baby's insistence on being fed. With the help of a largish napkin, she remained where she was at table with the rest of us, ate and enjoyed her brunch with the rest of us, fed her baby with the rest of us, and the rest of us were -- gasp -- monumentally unoffended.

Then again, I live in Toronto, in Canada.

(And by the way, I don't bare my breasts -- nor my penis, for that matter -- only because I can't think of anything the general public did to me that would warrant my treating them so badly. )

 

[Revoltingest]

That is debatable. Some people have a food fetish. Urination, flatulation, and defecation are also fetishes as well. There is even a milking fetish where men/women seek out lactating women to imbibe and bathe in human breast milk for sexual gratification.

None of the these are typically sexual, but have been sexualized. It's hard to think of anything that hasn't been sexualized matter of fact. Which is indictive of a problem in itself, but that's another topic for another thread.

So why is public breast feeding socially more acceptable by some, than public urination, flatulence, and defecation?

All the boundaries are pretty arbitrary.
Take a whiz behind a tree, & one could be punished as a sex offender for life.
And yet it's natural, & harms no one.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Nope read the post again, and try not to get all butt hurt about it. Nobody is afraid of a nipple.

It's about natural the bodily function of breast feeding. Urination, flatulation, and defecation are also natural bodily functions. So why is it they are not (socially) acceptable in public and breast feeding should be?

Your health and sanitation excuse is not valid. Waste is all around us, we are bombarded by bird urine and feces 24 hours a day. Ground animals urinate and defecate all around us 24 hours a day. We have vast sewer systems that carry waste water under our feet in pipes to be recycled at a waste water treatment facility and then returned to the environment to be reused and consumed over and over.

We are talking about the socially acceptable aspect of natural bodily functions. Why should breast feeding be allowed, but not urinating, flatulence, or defecating in public?

Personally, I don't care. If a mother wants to breast feed in public, I am fine with it.

At the end of the day, lots that is natural need not be on common display, and I think we all need to use just a little judgment, when we are able to.

Has nobody ever been in that desperate situation when you're on a public thoroughare, possibly having had several beers too many, and simply cannot hold back that next pee? And all the businesses are now closed, and you've got 10 friends (and a bunch of strangers) around? Guess what -- you pee. Yes, you try to be discrete, in a shaded corner, with your back to everyone (or asking a friend or two to stand in front of you if you're female).

Same thing with everything we do -- there are social norms (and they're not the same everywhere, by the way!), and we try to live within them. A woman breastfeeding can use a simple piece of cloth 2 or 3 feet on a side to make it easier for everyone to feel more comfortable (though even then, some won't, and will think the whole thing abominably shameful, but then they have a problem).

These are not hard things for sensible, mature people to cope with -- unless they've been indoctrinated with so much of that old religious bushwah that they can't handle the notion of a woman enjoying an orgasm, or a man taking a little solitary pleasure when nobody else is around.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

That is debatable. Some people have a food fetish. Urination, flatulation, and defecation are also fetishes as well. There is even a milking fetish where men/women seek out lactating women to imbibe and bathe in human breast milk for sexual gratification.

What business is it of yours if others find it sexually gratifying so long as they don't disturb others with it? Not sure why you seem to gravitate towards this particular subject so readily. Projection, maybe?

None of the these are typically sexual, but have been sexualized. It's hard to think of anything that hasn't been sexualized matter of fact. Which is indictive of a problem in itself, but that's another topic for another thread.

The problem being we live in societies which still have stupidly puritanical hangovers. As a collective of cultures, the West has some serious hang-ups and needs to grow the **** up. Maybe things wouldn't be sexualised so readily if sex wasn't seen as something naughty, sinful or something we need to be protected from seeing. Not sure why you feel the need to kinkshame others in order to make yourself feel more righteous either.

So why is public breast feeding socially more acceptable by some, than public urination, flatulence, and defecation?

Public breast feeding doesn't smell bad nor does it spread disease. ****ting, farting & pissing in public also speaks to a lack of self-control which is generally not tolerated in adults in older children as well. Babies have no self-control so neither they nor their mother can help it if baby needs to feed when the mother is in public.

Your health and sanitation excuse is not valid.

It's not an excuse. It's a reason.

Waste is all around us, we are bombarded by bird urine and feces 24 hours a day. Ground animals urinate and defecate all around us 24 hours a day.

We can't control this. We can control where humans paste waste and what happens to it.

We have vast sewer systems that carry waste water under our feet in pipes to be recycled at a waste water treatment facility and then returned to the environment to be reused and consumed over and over.

This would be germane if we were walking through this waste on a daily basis. But we're not.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Many women use a blanket or other cover up and you can't really tell what they are doing. There is no need for a public display. Maybe some women just want attention.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

I whip my tit out and everyone says to put it back.

And it's double worse if I do that!