Effect of drugs, alcohol, casual sex on Spirituality

[InvestigateTruth]

During the Holidays, I was off for nearly 2 weeks. One of the things I did, was, I watched a series of Criminal stories and interrogations for real cases.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=RDCMUCJWKjrrUh2KL1d3zXQW79cQ&playnext=1



So, I watched probably more than 10 of these interrogations in Murder cases.

What I noticed now, there were some common factors among all those who committed Murder.
Almost all of them, were also involved in using drugs, alcohol and casual sex.
A common personality attribute among all of them, they all had a narcissistic personality, meaning selfish, and only care about themselves, and have no sympathy for their victims.

I am coming to this conclusion that, what made these people, such selfish and Narcissistic was their life style, which included drugs, alcohol and casual sex.
It seems to me, for some reason these elements sort of kill the spirituality, and can turn a person to a cold blooded Murder. Could this be the reason, the religions are so concerned regarding not drinking, drug and sex outside marriage?


If my conclusion is not correct, then what do you think makes these people such a cold blooded murder? and why religions prohibited alcohol, drugs and sex outside marriage?
What's your take.

 

[JustGeorge]

I don't really see where casual sex fits in with drugs and alcohol.

Drugs and alcohol alter one's state of mind, possibly causing lapse in judgement. Sometimes this may make a person be more prone to engaging in casual sex while using drugs and alcohol, but I don't see casual sex alone making it more likely that a person would become violent.

Are there any cases where casual sex alone led to a murder?

One can also be a loving and caring drunk or druggie. Or a completely sober narcissist. Where there any cases of a narcissist being violent without external factors like that? (Just curious.)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What's your take.

We'd see tons more murders if those things made people into murderers.

 

[The Hammer]

I don't really see where casual sex fits in with drugs and alcohol.

Drugs and alcohol alter one's state of mind, possibly causing lapse in judgement. Sometimes this may person may be more prone to casual sex while using drugs and alcohol, but I don't see casual sex alone making it more likely that a person would become violent.

Are there any cases where casual sex alone led to a murder?

One can also be a loving and caring drunk or druggie. Or a completely sober narcissist. Where there any cases of a narcissist being violent without external factors like that? (Just curious.)

This was my thinking. There are dozens of other factors at play in these scenarios, besides just the fact that they do drugs, sleep around, or drink (excessively or not).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't really see where casual sex fits in with drugs and alcohol.

Drugs and alcohol alter one's state of mind, possibly causing lapse in judgement. Sometimes this may person may be more prone to casual sex while using drugs and alcohol, but I don't see casual sex alone making it more likely that a person would become violent.

Are there any cases where casual sex alone led to a murder?

One can also be a loving and caring drunk or druggie. Or a completely sober narcissist. Where there any cases of a narcissist being violent without external factors like that? (Just curious.)

If any of that were true then New Years Eve would have a resemblance to the Purge.

 

[ChristineM]

During the Holidays, I was off for nearly 2 weeks. One of the things I did, was, I watched a series of Criminal stories and interrogations for real cases.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=RDCMUCJWKjrrUh2KL1d3zXQW79cQ&playnext=1



So, I watched probably more than 10 of these interrogations in Murder cases.

What I noticed now, there was some common factors among all those who committed Murder.
Almost all of them, we're also involved in using drugs, alcohol and casual sex.
A common personality attribute among all of them, they all had a narcissistic personality, meaning selfish, and only care about themselves, and have no sympathy for their victims.

I am coming to this conclusion that, what made these people, such selfish and Narcissistic was their life style, which included drugs, alcohol and casual sex.
It seems to me, for some reason these elements sort of kill the spirituality, and can turn a person to a cold blooded Murder. Could this be the reason, the religions are so concerned regarding not drinking, drug and sex outside marriage?


If my conclusion is not correct, then what do you think makes these people such a cold blooded murder? and why religions prohibited alcohol, drugs and sex outside marriage?
What's your take.

I think just the opposite, their personality disorders resulted in the use of alcohol and drugs,

 

[JustGeorge]

I think just the opposite, their personality disorders resulted in the use of alcohol and drugs,

That's another very good point...

 

[InvestigateTruth]

We'd see tons more murders if those things made people into murderers.

I think there is an spectrum.
It is not like either a person is the most kind or the most cruel.
But I am suggesting that the effect of using Alcohol, drugs and casual sex, would degrade a person more toward cruelty and selfishness than, making them more kind and sympathetic.

I also think, there are a lot more people in the society that would do murder, but the only reason they have not is not because they are kind or not capable of doing it, rather they did not come to a situation that makes them do it, or a situation that they think they can get away with it. In another words, the reason they are not doing, is because they are scared of getting arrested and go to jail, not because they are kind, if you know what I mean.
Beside these, it is kind of like smoking. Some people would get lung cancer and some don't, but nonetheless it increases the chances, depending on other factors.

 

[JustGeorge]

But I am suggesting that the effect of using Alcohol, drugs and casual sex, would degrade a person more toward cruelty and selfishness than, making them more kind and sympathetic.

I'm wondering if, like @ChristineM has suggested, already having some kind of disordered thinking(possibly due to a mental illness, or severe issues in life) is more likely to result in drug and alcohol usage, potentially along with violent behaviors.

But I still don't see how casual sex fits. I know more people that do than that don't engage in casual sex, and the majority are normal, nonviolent people who go to work, pay bills, have hobbies, possibly raise children, etc...

I've also known functional alcoholics that caused little to no problem for themselves or others. Though, I've known a lot of problem drinkers, too.

I can't say I've ever seen excessive drug usage turn out well, though.

 

[ChristineM]

I'm wondering if, like @ChristineM has suggested, already having some kind of disordered thinking(possibly due to a mental illness, or severe issues in life) is more likely to result in drug and alcohol usage, potentially along with violent behaviors.

But I still don't see how casual sex fits. I know more people that do than that don't engage in casual sex, and the majority are normal, nonviolent people who go to work, pay bills, have hobbies, possibly raise children, etc...

I've also known functional alcoholics that caused little to no problem for themselves or others. Though, I've known a lot of problem drinkers, too.

I can't say I've ever seen excessive drug usage turn out well, though.

I also can't see casual sex being a driving factor in violent crime.

 

[JustGeorge]

I also can't see casual sex being a driving factor in violent crime.

I think the only scenario where that might come up is a spurned lover who discovers infidelity, but in normal situations where all parties are consenting, I don't see any indication that those falling into this category are more violent. And I don't think drugs and alcohol always go hand in hand with casual sex.

I have known people that drank little to none and had casual sex. I was a heavy drinker during my 20s, but I never engaged in casual sex. These things aren't an all or nothing deal.

 

[ChristineM]

I think the only scenario where that might come up is a spurned lover who discovers infidelity, but in normal situations where all parties are consenting, I don't see any indication that those falling into this category are more violent. And I don't think drugs and alcohol always go hand in hand with casual sex.

I have known people that drank little to none and had casual sex. I was a heavy drinker during my 20s, but I never engaged in casual sex. These things aren't an all or nothing deal.

I don't know about drugs but alcohol can be a sex inhibitor.

 

[JustGeorge]

I don't know about drugs but alcohol can be a sex inhibitor.

That's true.

I guess for me, if I didn't want the person before I was drunk, I still won't want them after! (But, its no secret I'm weird.)

 

[syo]

using drugs, alcohol and casual sex

YUCK!

 

[ChristineM]

That's true.

I guess for me, if I didn't want the person before I was drunk, I still won't want them after! (But, its no secret I'm weird.)

You, weird? Surely not.

 

[SomeRandom]

Wow, I thought I was pessimistic about humans
Drugs and alcohol might be a factor arguably, since they lower inhibitions and even alter one’s state of mind.
But casual sex?

What’s the oldest profession in the world again?
And those guys are more often than not victims of violent crime due to their perceived lack of “moral fibre” or somehow deserving of it due to their line of work.
So I’d argue it’s more the guilt that society places onto casual sex being a factor in violent crime than it actually being one

Besides hedonists, if you like, have also contributed to classical art and literature
The Libertine Movement anyone?

 

[InvestigateTruth]

I'm wondering if, like @ChristineM has suggested, already having some kind of disordered thinking(possibly due to a mental illness, or severe issues in life) is more likely to result in drug and alcohol usage, potentially along with violent behaviors.

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yes, I have heard from experts that often those who become drug edicts, have some personality disorders, but not necessarily a severe personality disorder. I think most people are not perfect and have a minor personality disorder anyways.


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But I still don't see how casual sex fits. I know more people that do than that don't engage in casual sex, and the majority are normal, nonviolent people who go to work, pay bills, have hobbies, possibly raise children, etc...

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I think, the practice of casual sex, is like exercising emotional disconnection, unfaithfulness, and sort of just using another body or our body as an "object" for pleasure. The casual sex, is without the "Love" element, because if there was love, there was attachment, and one could not just have sex tonite with one person, and tomorrow with another person. So, it turns out that, it is like learning and practicing how to be careless and unfaithful, so, can only use another body as an "object", rather than treating as a human being. Eventually, this will result in loosing that sense of sympathy and care, and thus becoming more cruel, cold, toward human beings not only regarding sex, but generally, treating others as objects. It is easy to destroy an object, like cars, or chairs. So, it becomes easy to kill humans, if one thinks of them as objects.

 

[Altfish]

During the Holidays, I was off for nearly 2 weeks. One of the things I did, was, I watched a series of Criminal stories and interrogations for real cases.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=RDCMUCJWKjrrUh2KL1d3zXQW79cQ&playnext=1



So, I watched probably more than 10 of these interrogations in Murder cases.

What I noticed now, there were some common factors among all those who committed Murder.
Almost all of them, were also involved in using drugs, alcohol and casual sex.
A common personality attribute among all of them, they all had a narcissistic personality, meaning selfish, and only care about themselves, and have no sympathy for their victims.

I am coming to this conclusion that, what made these people, such selfish and Narcissistic was their life style, which included drugs, alcohol and casual sex.
It seems to me, for some reason these elements sort of kill the spirituality, and can turn a person to a cold blooded Murder. Could this be the reason, the religions are so concerned regarding not drinking, drug and sex outside marriage?


If my conclusion is not correct, then what do you think makes these people such a cold blooded murder? and why religions prohibited alcohol, drugs and sex outside marriage?
What's your take.

You could also argue that the same people make great music.

 

[ChristineM]

You could also argue that the same people make great music.

Good point

 

[JustGeorge]

yes, I have heard from experts that often those who become drug edicts, have some personality disorders, but not necessarily a severe personality disorder. I think most people are not perfect and have a minor personality disorder anyways.


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I think, the practice of casual sex, is like exercising emotional disconnection, unfaithfulness, and sort of just using another body or our body as an "object" for pleasure. The casual sex, is without the "Love" element, because if there was love, there was attachment, and one could not just have sex tonite with one person, and tomorrow with another person. So, it turns out that, it is like learning and practicing how to be careless and unfaithful, so, can only use another body as an "object", rather than treating as a human being. Eventually, this will result in loosing that sense of sympathy and care, and thus becoming more cruel, cold, toward human beings not only regarding sex, but generally, treating others as objects. It is easy to destroy an object, like cars, or chairs. So, it becomes easy to kill humans, if one thinks of them as objects.

I would be curious to hear more from folks that engage in casual sex before I imagined what they feel/think about it, honestly.