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Egyptian and Saudi Arabic

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Assalamy alaykum to all.

If I was to learn the Saudi Arabic, would I have much trouble understanding Egyptians if latter I went to Egypt?

What about the Fus-ha dialect, I believe the Qur'an is written in this style. Does any country have this as their language or has this now become a special language to learn for those who wish to understand the full meaning of the Qur'an?

Any help would be appreciated, Jazak Allah khair.
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
Not sure how to help you.

But isn't there an official arabic?

Ay. If you had to chose, I would chose Egyptian as I would want to go to Al-Azhar :p

But if you wish to go to KSA instead, then learn their dialiect.
 

dynavert2012

Active Member
well, i'm Egyptian and i went to Saudi Arabia months ago, so my experience that the saudi people can understand me easily but i face some problems to understand their tounge, so i can grant for you that learning egyptian arabic will make others understand you easily but you will mostly understand the gulf area people but will face too much problem to understand the people of algeria, moroco and tunisia

the Quran language can be easily understood to egyuptian, sham "syria, jordan, palestine and lebanon" and the gulf area but the west arabs are not well arabic speaker because of the french occupation

hope this would help
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
well, i'm Egyptian and i went to Saudi Arabia months ago, so my experience that the saudi people can understand me easily but i face some problems to understand their tounge, so i can grant for you that learning egyptian arabic will make others understand you easily but you will mostly understand the gulf area people but will face too much problem to understand the people of algeria, moroco and tunisia

the Quran language can be easily understood to egyuptian, sham "syria, jordan, palestine and lebanon" and the gulf area but the west arabs are not well arabic speaker because of the french occupation

hope this would help
I think the last point was pretty silly, Moroccans, Algerians, Egyptians and all North-Africans can understand each other easily and French is a secondary language not there primary. I am pretty sure 99% of the Moroccan people speaks Arabic and the same goes for Algeria, Tunis, Libya and so forth..
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
Fouad, yes people of Al-Maghrib countries do speak Arabic, except that the dialect is not easy to understand by Egyptians. :D
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
I know that there are different dialects and that northern African countries, excluding Egypt, have french influence but that is not to say that they don't speak Arabic.

I have heard that Egypt speaks the best/clearest Arabic and that it is better to learn the Egyptian dialect but I just wanted to know how much trouble I would have in understanding and being understood by an Egyptian if I was to learn the Saudi dialect.
 

dynavert2012

Active Member
I think the last point was pretty silly, Moroccans, Algerians, Egyptians and all North-Africans can understand each other easily and French is a secondary language not there primary. I am pretty sure 99% of the Moroccan people speaks Arabic and the same goes for Algeria, Tunis, Libya and so forth..

you got me wrong brother, i don't mean to show that the west arabs are lesser than us, but the fact that they are strongly affected by the french occupation, i met some of them, they talk to me in french not arabic that's why i said that, for sure not all the people like that
 

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
I think that the Fus-ha dialect is a must...
All Arabs understand it.
And knowing it will make it easy for you to learn any other dialect...

As of which dailect -apart from the Fus'ha- you should learn, I think it depends on your situation...Think about the majority of the Arabs you are likely to be in contact with, and learn their dialect...
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
I would go for official Arabic and not the Egyptian dialect, i understand Egyptians, Saudi's and Northern-African people some words are just differently but you get the basic idea what the person is talking about.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
you got me wrong brother, i don't mean to show that the west arabs are lesser than us, but the fact that they are strongly affected by the french occupation, i met some of them, they talk to me in french not arabic that's why i said that, for sure not all the people like that
Well there are people who mix the two languages(So called modern Moroccans) but they can still speak fully Arabic if they want and like i said 99% just speaks Arabic/Tamazight.
 

Alulu

Member
The only reason Egyptian Arabic is understood by all Arabs is because all Arab soaps are Egyptian-Arabic spoken. Its known as "oum ad-dounia", the cultural center of teh Arab world. Just like most movies are American-English because they are from hollywood leads to the fact that many non-native English speakers are very familiar with that type of dialect and not Australian, Scottish or Jamaican English for example. Would Egypt have been a small country like Bahrein or Libya and less significant in the Arab their dialect would be less understood because they have distinct pronounciations compared to the original Arabic letters and their pronounciations. The "q" is not pronounced, like "qawi" (strong) becomes "awi", the "j" becomes a "g" like "gadid" instead of "jadid", "th" sounds more like a "s" like "sawra" (instead of thawra/revolution), a "dh" is pronounced as a "z" like "zikr" instead of "dhikr".

It is best to continue learning standard Arabic (fusha) and in your daily life you will get familiar with the daily dialect that is spoken and differs from standard Arabic, although it does have many of its vocabulairy of course. The more you interact with different Arabs the more you get familiar with the different spoken dialects.

Please remember that even in al-Bukhari it is mentioned in ahadith that some Arabs came to the prophet and told him they could not understand (or have difficulties) other Arabs of different tribes. So dialects and differences of it in pronounciation and words used is not something new actually, it was the same in the time of the prophet. Arabia (modern day Arabian peninsula) is huge and because of the desert and tribal bedouin life many tribes lived isolated from other tribes. Northern Arabian tribes were totally isolated from Souther Yemeni tribes, with each speaking Arabic but naturally very different dialects, pronounciation of words and words used. Thats why one standard Arabic was eventually created and is the official language used in all Arab countries and their media for example".
 
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Pastek

Sunni muslim
I know that there are different dialects and that northern African countries, excluding Egypt, have french influence but that is not to say that they don't speak Arabic.

I have heard that Egypt speaks the best/clearest Arabic and that it is better to learn the Egyptian dialect but I just wanted to know how much trouble I would have in understanding and being understood by an Egyptian if I was to learn the Saudi dialect.

If you learn the egyptian dialect almost all the arabs will understand you, and it's not a difficult dialect to learn.
You will probably understand quite well the Shami (Levantine) dialect, but not very well the other dialects.

If you learn the Saudi dialect, i think that people will understand you in general, and that you'll just have some problem understanding the maghrebi dialect.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Thank you Alulu and Pastek for your help, your posts clarify that matter a great deal for me.

I have decided though to go with the Egyptian dialect, instead of learning one and then going on to another and confuse myself.

Thank you all for your help and input.
 

ohhcuppycakee

Active Member
No Arab-speaking country speaks the pure fusha, just regional dialects. If you want to be able to understand the Qur'an, learn Qur'anic Arabic.
 
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