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Einstein and Shia Islam

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
Anybody has information about the following matter:

Potkin Azarmehr said:

“Einstein was corresponding with the late Ayatollah Boroujerdi and had admitted Shia Islam was the most scientific and just religion in the world.

In this secret correspondence between Ayatollah Boroujerdi and Einstein, which was clandestinely translated by a hand select number of translators appointed by the Shah, Eisntein confirms his relativity theory is mentioned in the holy Koran and some of the Hadith from the Shiite holy book, Nahjolbalagheh and the writings of the 16th century Shiite cleric, Alameh Majlisi.

Einstein admits in his letters that only Shiite Islam provides the theological proof for relativity and no other religion does so.”

Einstein was Shiite ? Iranian.com

For a democratic secular Iran. For peace and prosperity in the Middle East.: Einstein Was a Shiite Muslim
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Einstein was a Jedi.
(His work on electromagnetic quanta led to the light saber, btw.)
 
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Kerr

Well-Known Member
Anybody has information about the following matter:

Potkin Azarmehr said:

“Einstein was corresponding with the late Ayatollah Boroujerdi and had admitted Shia Islam was the most scientific and just religion in the world.

In this secret correspondence between Ayatollah Boroujerdi and Einstein, which was clandestinely translated by a hand select number of translators appointed by the Shah, Eisntein confirms his relativity theory is mentioned in the holy Koran and some of the Hadith from the Shiite holy book, Nahjolbalagheh and the writings of the 16th century Shiite cleric, Alameh Majlisi.

Einstein admits in his letters that only Shiite Islam provides the theological proof for relativity and no other religion does so.”

Einstein was Shiite ? Iranian.com

For a democratic secular Iran. For peace and prosperity in the Middle East.: Einstein Was a Shiite Muslim
To my knowledge, Einstein held religious views that might not have been compatible with Islam. Like he apparently rejected a personal God and seemed drawn to pantheism and agnosticism.

EDIT:

Honestly, though, I dont understand why it matters if he was a Muslim or not. That would be his views and beliefs. If the argument is that it would give Islam credibility, it should be noted that Einstein was actually wrong on some things. His statement that God doesnt play with dice turned out to be wrong, for example. There are also other very successful scientists who would disagree with him. Bottom line is that who believes what when it comes to science doesnt matter that much.
 
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F0uad

Well-Known Member
I don't think he said Einstein was a Shia, Einstein had hes reasons for believing and thinking as he did. I am not sure what the OP is trying to suggest though??

There have been dozens of Western scholars, scientists who praised the Quran and Muslim teachings regarding many things.
I also do not understand why he had to say Shia Islam since Sunnis and other branches of Islam follow the same Quran??
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
I doubt the Quran says anything about relativity. Is it GR or SR?

I would be more impressed if the Quran can describe the unified field theory and explain how to make relativity work with quantum mechanics.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I doubt the Quran says anything about relativity. Is it GR or SR?
I would be more impressed if the Quran can describe the unified field theory and explain how to make relativity work with quantum mechanics.
After the unified field theory is discovered, someone will claim it was in the Koran all along.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
After the unified field theory is discovered, someone will claim it was in the Koran all along.

I know. Right.

Anyone here read or heard about the "Bible Code" thing some 10-15 years ago? It was kind of the same stuff. The Bible had all future events encoded in the text.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I know. Right.
Anyone here read or heard about the "Bible Code" thing some 10-15 years ago? It was kind of the same stuff. The Bible had all future events encoded in the text.
Sacred books are great at predicting the future, if only retrospectively.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Einstein thought any sort of personal deity was childish and something suitable for times past.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einsci.htm
Read it for Einstein's thoughts, because it was wrote by him and not someone else.

Anyone here read or heard about the "Bible Code" thing some 10-15 years ago? It was kind of the same stuff. The Bible had all future events encoded in the text.
I forgot all about that fatuous claim.
 
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Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
I forgot all about that fatuous claim.

I've suppressed the memory for years until now because of some depressing experiences with it. My dad was into it and gave me a book. I was still Christian at that time, but I realized in just a day or two what was wrong with it. My dad meant well with it, but it's just depressing to think of it.

It's surprising that no one has done the Quran Code yet.
 

Shia Islam

Quran and Ahlul-Bayt a.s.
Premium Member
I don't think he said Einstein was a Shia, Einstein had hes reasons for believing and thinking as he did. I am not sure what the OP is trying to suggest though??

There have been dozens of Western scholars, scientists who praised the Quran and Muslim teachings regarding many things.
I also do not understand why he had to say Shia Islam since Sunnis and other branches of Islam follow the same Quran??

Thank you brother. You are right in every word here.

We have loads of emotions in many replies.
Human need Allah and his religion; not the other way round.

Unfortunately many people are not aware about the contributions of Muslim scholars over the centuries.

When it comes to the concept of time, this field was contemplated thoroughly by many muslim scholars.

According to Islam, the prophet was enrolled in a night journey from Mecca to Jerusalem, and from there, he was ascended to heaven.
All of this was in no time.

Based on this many Muslim sholars investigated the concept of time ...

Anyhow. I am writing this from my mobile phone.
so I will stop here.
 

Reverend Richard

New Thought Minister
Anybody has information about the following matter:

Potkin Azarmehr said:

“Einstein was corresponding with the late Ayatollah Boroujerdi and had admitted Shia Islam was the most scientific and just religion in the world.

In this secret correspondence between Ayatollah Boroujerdi and Einstein, which was clandestinely translated by a hand select number of translators appointed by the Shah, Eisntein confirms his relativity theory is mentioned in the holy Koran and some of the Hadith from the Shiite holy book, Nahjolbalagheh and the writings of the 16th century Shiite cleric, Alameh Majlisi.

Einstein admits in his letters that only Shiite Islam provides the theological proof for relativity and no other religion does so.”

Einstein was Shiite ? Iranian.com

For a democratic secular Iran. For peace and prosperity in the Middle East.: Einstein Was a Shiite Muslim

"“The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend a personal God and avoid dogmas and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity." - Albert Einstein

So, I would definitely say, no. Einstein was not connected or affiliated with any religious sect.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Unfortunately many people are not aware about the contributions of Muslim scholars over the centuries.
I am very aware of many such contributions; universities, modern concept of a hospital, even the tooth brush. But that still does not mean that I, or any other individual, need any sort of personal deity in our lives.

I've suppressed the memory for years until now because of some depressing experiences with it. My dad was into it and gave me a book. I was still Christian at that time, but I realized in just a day or two what was wrong with it. My dad meant well with it, but it's just depressing to think of it.
I was a Christian when that craze hit, but I saw it as more of a graven images type of thing so I had nothing to do with it, and I thought that movie that dealt with it, The Omega Code I think it may have been called, was guilty of adding and subtracting from the Word of God. And then I remember reading somewhere back in the day the 90's Bible Code fad was started by an Atheist, but I haven't been able to find anything on it.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
Thank you brother. You are right in every word here.

We have loads of emotions in many replies.
Human need Allah and his religion; not the other way round.

Unfortunately many people are not aware about the contributions of Muslim scholars over the centuries.

When it comes to the concept of time, this field was contemplated thoroughly by many muslim scholars.

According to Islam, the prophet was enrolled in a night journey from Mecca to Jerusalem, and from there, he was ascended to heaven.
All of this was in no time.

Based on this many Muslim sholars investigated the concept of time ...

Anyhow. I am writing this from my mobile phone.
so I will stop here.
To be picky, investigating time and investigating relativity is two different things :p.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Hi Shia, I have never heard of this before but I do know that he sometimes quoted Hindu scripture and is known for saying: "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous."

He also became vegetarian toward the end of his life.
 
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