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Election Workers Being Threatened

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I hope so. Democracy can't really sustain itself without voting access.
Democracy is safe for the moment.
I'm more concerned about the immediate
issue of people's ruined or lost lives.
Prosecution & conviction will benefit
democracy.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
That FBI agent calling her and her house being surrounded the next day is insane. These are interesting times. Not really sure about what to think of them, although I suppose that I still expect all of this stuff to fade away before the next decade.

Gods I hope so.

Tired of living in interesting times.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Prosecution & conviction will benefit
democracy.

That does not work in places where the government gives aid and comfort to the terrorists (aka Jan 6th).

That FBI agent calling her and her house being surrounded the next day is insane.

It's insane for that to be needed. But the terrorists, and terror is what they are after, must be stopped.

Personally we should start at the top focusing on the networks not taking a strong stand against terrorism, politicians at every level who are supporters of and pander to the terrorists and working our way down. LOCK THEM ALL UP
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Democracy is safe for the moment.
I'm more concerned about the immediate
issue of people's ruined or lost lives.
Prosecution & conviction will benefit
democracy.
There is a most interesting article in the recent issue of the Atlantic, by Barton Gellman, titled: "Trump's Next Coup has Already Begun: January 6 was practice. Donald Trump's GOP is much better positioned to subvert the next election."

It really does deserve a read. Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There is a most interesting article in the recent issue of the Atlantic, by Barton Gellman, titled: "Trump's Next Coup has Already Begun: January 6 was practice. Donald Trump's GOP is much better positioned to subvert the next election."

It really does deserve a read. Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun
I'd already perused that article.
I'm not convinced the sky will fall.
Our system is designed to cope with mischief.
And we saw it prevail in the last election, the
drama notwithstanding.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes but there are problems and systems can be hacked.



True. But past results is no predictor of future results.
You're welcome to believe the sky will fall in 2024.
I saw the system working.
Could be better, but it works.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I'd already perused that article.
I'm not convinced the sky will fall.
Our system is designed to cope with mischief.
And we saw it prevail in the last election, the
drama notwithstanding.
Our system is also assuming the vast majority of those in control will be ethical and supportive of democracy.

Numerous swing states have very close margins in vote counts. Biden won by only about 43,000 votes in some crucial states. If the states decided to throw out some number of ballots the margin could swing the other way. We have seen that trump inspires people to do criminal acts, and I don't think we can expect any of his followers have learned anything from Jan 6.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Our system is also assuming the vast majority of those in control will be ethical and supportive of democracy.
Are those really assumptions?
The system looks designed to accommodate
many unethical players, both voters & leaders.
Numerous swing states have very close margins in vote counts. Biden won by only about 43,000 votes in some crucial states. If the states decided to throw out some number of ballots the margin could swing the other way. We have seen that trump inspires people to do criminal acts, and I don't think we can expect any of his followers have learned anything from Jan 6.
It's not reasonable to say that none of them have learned.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Are those really assumptions?
The system looks designed to accommodate
many unethical players, both voters & leaders.
Right, and trump and his associates have been taking full advantage of it, just hoping for key individuals to be corrupt. Now it seems some of these key people are being replaced, or could be replaced, with corrupt people. GA governor candidate David Purdue stated that if he had been in position to invalidate the vote count and assign new electors that he would have.

There are many acts taking place that will seem to eliminate diverse people in key positions at state levels. For example this:

Georgia Republicans purge Black Democrats from county election boards

It's not reasonable to say that none of them have learned.
Well, those who were caught might have adjusted attitudes now. Not a significant number of the total of trump supporters.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Right, and trump and his associates have been taking full advantage of it, just hoping for key individuals to be corrupt. Now it seems some of these key people are being replaced, or could be replaced, with corrupt people. GA governor candidate David Purdue stated that if he had been in position to invalidate the vote count and assign new electors that he would have.

There are many acts taking place that will seem to eliminate diverse people in key positions at state levels. For example this:

Georgia Republicans purge Black Democrats from county election boards


Well, those who were caught might have adjusted attitudes now. Not a significant number of the total of trump supporters.
The system has always endured corruption.
No doubt, it will always have it.
Results will be corrupt at times.
It's a risk.
All we can do is design & implement the best system we can,
& work towards the best result. There are no guarantees.
 
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