Elijah, John the Baptist, and Reincarnation

[Fool]

was john the baptist the reincarnated spirit of elijah?


malachi 3:1

 

[Harel13]

Why would he have a different name, then? Malachi calls him Elijah, not currently nameless person who may have Elijah's spirit.

 

[Fool]

Why would he have a different name, then? Malachi calls him Elijah, not currently nameless person who may have Elijah's spirit.

personalities are tied to a limited time period and a corporal existence. they are given names by their earthly parents. there are no instances of men suddenly appearing from nowhere and claiming to be the exact same person or prophet. people supposedly have spirits but spirits are not necessarily people.

so then the future coming of a past spirit would not necessarily be called by the same name, or variant there of.

reincarnation is the resurrection of a temporal body and not an eternal spirit

 

[Harel13]

so then the future coming of a past spirit would not necessarily be called by the same name, or variant there of.

Malachi did not seem to think so. Otherwise he would have said: "Behold, I will send you the spirit of Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD."

 

[Fool]

Malachi did not seem to think so. Otherwise he would have said: "Behold, I will send you the spirit of Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD."

so from malachi 3:1 the actual word being used is messenger, or angel; which is an emissary of god. i've never read anywhere of an angel suddenly becoming a man, a prophet, but i have read that jacobs ladder is the idea of spirits ascending/descending as angel into/from carnal beings, or the son of man.


Malachi 3:1


https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16221/jewish/Chapter-3.htm


so your idea of elijah returning; would be a lot like the christian idea of jesus' returning. the clouds, or sky, would open up and a former man, in this case elijah, would drop down and everyone would be flumoxed?

 

[Harel13]

so from malachi 3:1 the actual word being used is messenger, or angel; which is an emissary of god.

Actually, the word used is מלאכי which has the added Yod at the end signifying "my [angel/messenger/name of person (don't forget that מלאכי is also the name of the person the book is ascribed to]".

so your idea of elijah returning; would be a lot like the christian idea of jesus' returning. the clouds, or sky, would open up and a former man, in this case elijah, would drop down and everyone would be flumoxed?

I don't know what it would be like with Eliyahu returning, but in any case, I don't see his reappearance as a whole 'nother dude.

 

[Fool]

Actually, the word used is מלאכי which has the added Yod at the end signifying "my [angel/messenger/name of person (don't forget that מלאכי is also the name of the person the book is ascribed to]".

I don't know what it would be like with Eliyahu returning, but in any case, I don't see his reappearance as a whole 'nother dude.

but why and why would you think a person remains the same on earth as they would in heaven? who would need a fleshly terrestrial body in heaven?

an incarnation is that of a body being in the flesh. do you see a god, an angel as needing flesh in heaven? why breathe the breath of life, the spirit into adam?


why knit a body in the womb? why not just show up as a spirit?

psalms 139:13


and if it can happen once, an incarnation, why can't it happen again for that spirit incarnated from before?

 

[Harel13]

but why and why would you think a person remains the same on earth as they would in heaven? who would need a fleshly terrestrial body in heaven?

I don't believe I said anything of the sort.

 

[Alley Oop]

Why would he have a different name, then? Malachi calls him Elijah, not currently nameless person who may have Elijah's spirit.

non sequitur

 

[Alley Oop]

was john the baptist the reincarnated spirit of elijah?


malachi 3:1

yup

 

[Harel13]

non sequitur

Why?