Empirical Evidence for God

[Desert Snake]

There exists empirical evidence for God but it is spiritual in nature. God is inaccessible by nature. An analogy would be that of entering another dimension in order to reach Him. As I have stated before, I have seen God once and experienced and witnessed His presence a number of times. Each and every time was during an altered state of consciousness. Now, there is the proposition of panpsychism as a possibility. But in this experience God would be observed as a universal consciousness as opposed to being understood to be specifically a Being that goes by the name God. A general manifestation of universal awareness in other words. But specifically speaking, evidence would appear as an identity that distributes itself over reality at large. Or it may appear to be within. Either way, it would be obvious to the observer that God is real.

We would call that evidenced, from what you wrote.
Of course one can experience God, the idea that you can't, is an invented idea from faulty religious interpretation, and belief.
There can be different experiences, all inferring the existence of God.
The idea that there is only one type of divinity experience, is also wrong, and is simply the belief of certain 'mystics', and certain religious paradigms.

 

[Ostronomos]

There is empirical evidence in that the universe exists, and it is suitable for life. The chances of all the constants being just right is very small. Atheists get around that by saying there are probably many universes, but I see many universes as an evidence for God.

Multiple universes is direct evidence for God as is most of the phenomenon of Quantum Physics. This is because these universes must have a common thread to them. That would be the mind of God.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

There exists empirical evidence for God but it is spiritual in nature. God is inaccessible by nature. An analogy would be that of entering another dimension in order to reach Him. As I have stated before, I have seen God once and experienced and witnessed His presence a number of times. Each and every time was during an altered state of consciousness. Now, there is the proposition of panpsychism as a possibility. But in this experience God would be observed as a universal consciousness as opposed to being understood to be specifically a Being that goes by the name God. A general manifestation of universal awareness in other words. But specifically speaking, evidence would appear as an identity that distributes itself over reality at large. Or it may appear to be within. Either way, it would be obvious to the observer that God is real.

It's a personal experience not universal. What experiences have you had that would directly tell us it's from god without our needing to believe in it or take your word for it?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

That is not correct. An altered state of consciousness is simply a conscious experience that is understood to be beyond or outside the realm of ordinary consciousness. That is what I mean by that.

Right: a state where the brain is induced into a state of malfunction.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Multiple universes is direct evidence for God as is most of the phenomenon of Quantum Physics. This is because these universes must have a common thread to them. That would be the mind of God.

That is an unjustified conclusion.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, it is not. Please read it again to confirm why not.

He (that dang avatar makes me think female) is right. Empirical evidence is the same regardless who observes it. Your evidence is not of that nature.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There is empirical evidence in that the universe exists, and it is suitable for life. The chances of all the constants being just right is very small. Atheists get around that by saying there are probably many universes, but I see many universes as an evidence for God.

How so?

 

[Truthseeker]

How so?

Well, since the universes are so vast in number and space this is evidence of the grandeur of God.

 

[Mock Turtle]

That is not correct. An altered state of consciousness is simply a conscious experience that is understood to be beyond or outside the realm of ordinary consciousness. That is what I mean by that.

Beyond and perhaps less accurate? Not bothered with what science tells us about such things? That they can be induced for example.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, since the universes are so vast in number and space this is evidence of the grandeur of God.

Ummm. . . That's not evidence. That's an unjustified conclusion.

 

[Ostronomos]

It's a personal experience not universal. What experiences have you had that would directly tell us it's from god without our needing to believe in it or take your word for it?

When God appears, It is because He is specifically addressing a single observer. Any attempt to unveil His existence to another would cause Him to vanish without a trace. Because God is intelligent beyond question. Hence He cannot be proven by consensus. However, I have proven His existence on this forum. Even introducing what I call the God equation.

 

[Audie]

Then what would qualify. Evidence is 100% confirmation of something.

Well, actually, "evidence" is not that. If it were, all the cops would need is one piece of evidence-say a piece of broken glass-to get you sent to the gas chamber.

Now, to make it harder for you-
There is evidence for the defense, evidence for the prosecution.

You are 100% guilty, and 100% innocent.

 

[Mock Turtle]

When God appears, It is because He is specifically addressing a single observer. Any attempt to unveil His existence to another would cause Him to vanish without a trace. Because God is intelligent beyong question. Hence He cannot be proven by consensus. However, I have proven His existence on this forum. Even introducing what I call the God equation.

Shame a few of us need a wee bit more evidence than this, otherwise beliefs would propagate so readily. Oh, they do anyway.

 

[Subduction Zone]

When God appears, It is because He is specifically addressing a single observer. Any attempt to unveil His existence to another would cause Him to vanish without a trace. Because God is intelligent beyong question. Hence He cannot be proven by consensus. However, I have proven His existence on this forum. Even introducing what I call the God equation.

No, just no

 

[Audie]

When God appears, It is because He is specifically addressing a single observer. Any attempt to unveil His existence to another would cause Him to vanish without a trace. Because God is intelligent beyong question. Hence He cannot be proven by consensus. However, I have proven His existence on this forum. Even introducing what I call the God equation.

You sure know some remarkable things about god.

I had a high fever as a teenager, and was hallucinating.
At one point Mohammed Ali came into my room, and
I showed him I was stronger than he, by pushing
him down with one hand.

Pretty good for a sick girl who didnt even weigh 90 lbs.

But, proof enough that Mohammed Ali was in Hong
Kong, visited me, and that I am really stronger than I lookl

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, actually, "evidence" is not that. If it were, all the cops would need is one piece of evidence-say a piece of broken glass-to get you sent to the gas chamber.

Now, to make it harder for you-
There is evidence for the defense, evidence for the prosecution.

You are 100% guilty, and 100% innocent.

Arrggh! My poor old eyes and this tiny tablet screen do not get along very well. I misread his post as saying the obvious, that evidence is not 100% confirming.

I know it gets repetitive at times,but the OP has demonstrated that he does not understand the concept.

 

[ChristineM]

There is empirical evidence in that the universe exists, and it is suitable for life. The chances of all the constants being just right is very small. Atheists get around that by saying there are probably many universes, but I see many universes as an evidence for God.

Wrong. Latest understanding is that the chances of life are quite high. In fact entropy predicts life.

The Kepler mission has discovered thousands of planets within a very small region of local space. The estimate is around 10% of those found are suitable for life as we understand it.

And that is only in local space. There are estimated to be 100 billion trillion stars in the universe.

And please do not tell me what i get round by using hypothetical ideas. That is your dream, your excuse to disrespect all atheists



Edit. So you consider the hypothesis of many universes as evidence for god... Is that hypothetical evidence for a hypothetical god?

 

[WalterTrull]

OK, OK, I've posted this before, but here goes again.
The empirical evidence for God is us. More - there's lots of us. More- we communicate. More - we ALL die.
If you've seen me post these things before, my apologies.

 

[Audie]

Arrggh! My poor old eyes and this tiny tablet screen do not get along very well. I misread his post as saying the obvious, that evidence is not 100% confirming.

I know it gets repetitive at times,but the OP has demonstrated that he does not understand the concept.

I think it is time to leave him to it, this is too ridiculous.

 

[MonkeyFire]

I'm almost entirely lucid and content through the mastery of peace of mind.