European Union: the lounge-loving and elitist Left has been defeated

[Estro Felino]

??? How so? He doesn't understand politics or history, doesn't read memos or pay attention to briefings. He invents threats and enemies, then panders to the fearful and disaffected; not to mention authoritarian foreign leaders. He makes dangerous political decisions.

Zero wars started during Trump's administration.

Hillary? Pretty middle-of-the-road, I'd say. What problems do you see with Hillary?

The entire Mediterranean area was destabilized because of the decisions taken by that guy whose father is from Kenya and Miss Rodham.

Liberalism, as understood in the US, could hardly be more different from Neoliberalism.

Neo-Liberism is the doctrine of Hayek and Nozick. A devilish ideology that helps millionaires become billionaires.
At cost of people's poverty.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Zero wars started during Trump's administration.

Only because people with better minds and more sense than Trump won out.

 

[Estro Felino]

Maybe it's time you admit that the warlike warmongering Left-Wing produces nothing but the German voters' disgust.
They are so disgusted by them, that they vote for AfD.

Far-right on a roll in Germany. Afd wins regional elections in Thuringia, advances in Saxony

Eleven years after its founding, the ultra-right party is, for the first time, ahead of everyone in a regional election. One in three Germans voted Afd in the two eastern states, while the federal government's traffic-light coalition collapsed, and the CDU held its own. Now it's alliance rebus

www.eunews.it

 

[Estro Felino]

Only because people with better minds and more sense than Trump won out.

Listen, Sara, the truth is that Tulsi Gabbard defined Hillary as the queen of warmongers.

Is she wrong?

So much war and devastation throughout the Middle East ...from Syria to Libya.
And her emails demonstrate that she knew and she did nothing to prevent all that.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Listen, Sara, the truth is that Tulsi Gabbard defined Hillary as the queen of warmongers.

Is she wrong?

So much war and devastation throughout the Middle East ...from Syria to Libya.
And her emails demonstrate that she knew and she did nothing to prevent all that.

How the hell is that relevant? Hillary? We're talking about Trump who did factually move to provoke a war with Iran.

 

[Estro Felino]

How the hell is that relevant? Hillary? We're talking about Trump who did factually move to provoke a war with Iran.

But it's not true that other people de-escalated a possible conflict with Iran.

It was Trump.
It was Trump who met with Putin in Helsinki.
It was Trump who promoted peace everywhere and met everyone to ensure peace between Russia's allies and NATO.

It was Trump. Period.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

How the hell is that relevant? Hillary? We're talking about Trump who did factually move to provoke a war with Iran.

Deflection, moving goalposts, what-about-ism

It's her go-to tactic when the facts become too inconvenient for her bare claims.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But it's not true that other people de-escalated a possible conflict with Iran.

It was Trump.
It was Trump who met with Putin in Helsinki.
It was Trump who promoted peace everywhere and met everyone to ensure peace between Russia's allies and NATO.

It was Trump. Period.

Trump bombed Iran.

 

[Estro Felino]

Trump bombed Iran.

Source?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Source?

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www.cnn.com

 

[Estro Felino]

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www.cnn.com

As an European, I have no idea of how the Middle East really works.
Of course I think it was a bad idea.

But no war was started and it was not against Iran. Just against that person.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But no war was started and it was not against Iran. Just against that person.

It was an Iranian General. It was not against just that one person.

As an European, I have no idea of how the Middle East really works.

And yet you freely open your mouth about America while typically getting it wrong.

 

[Estro Felino]

It was an Iranian General. It was not against just that one person.

And yet you freely open your mouth about America while typically getting it wrong.

Excuse me but this is an European politics thread.
I claim to know European politics...yes.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Excuse me but this is an European politics thread.
I claim to know European politics...yes.

You claim to, yes, but you get corrected by other European members quite a bit.
You also didn't address my points.

 

[Wu Wei]

You claim to, yes, but you get corrected by other European members quite a bit.
You also didn't address my points.

Its the standard MO... don't answer inconvenient questions

 

[Revoltingest]

Zero wars started during Trump's administration.

No, he did start one. Against Iran.
But staff talked him out of it before delivering any materiel.
Note also that Trump violated his campaign promise of
exiting the Afghanistan war. Not just a warmonger, but
a dishonest panderer....traits he shares with Obama.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You claim to, yes, but you get corrected by other European members quite a bit.

Unfortunately, these corrections are never registering. Instead, topics are changed and few pages / days later, the same mistakes and falsehoods are simply repeated.

You also didn't address my points.

She never does

 

[Samael_Khan]

Nationalism brings nations together.
Now European nations love each other because they understood that their common deadly enemy is the financial and banking élites.
Some commentator in my country said: this is vote of pure hatred. Against the banking and financial élites who push for WW3.

Are you pro national socialism then?

 

[Estro Felino]

Are you pro national socialism then?

I don't like labels.
I find wars to be monstrous so I side with pacifists who want the denuclearization of all countries.
I side with those who find the élites making profit through the sale of warfare absolutely despicable.

It is monstrous to cash in on wars. Wars are devilish.

So...since mainstream nationalists love war, I am not one of them.

 

[Samael_Khan]

Ah i see