PureX
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A straw response to a straw accusation.
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Even Mainstream Conservatives Now Talk Of Violent Revolution
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I recognize chaos when I see it. I see it below, for example -- and it was not caused by the left. Not even close. (Speaking of horse blinders, I'll bet you deny you've ever seen this video before the day is over.)
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Only in your cornfield it is.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
The oligarchy has captured both the left and the right, and keeping people angry at each other is a fine way to distract them from the reality of the oligarchy that's now in place.
By far, the most pressing issue of our time is ecological overshoot. But the oligarchs have succeeded in sprinkling magical thinking fairy dust over our leaders and the people, and instead of focusing on overshoot, we're embroiled in an endless array of political and social nonsense.
You really should pay attention to what you link. You saw "Fox" and "left-wing" and assumed they'd provide you with the example you could kill me with. Ooopsie! Let me provide you with the transcript of what is said in that video, and it clearly refers to right-wing violence throughout, including an explicit reference to the Boogaloo Movement, anchored in the belief that a second U.S. civil war is coming. So congragulations on trying to get me, and instead getting it utterly backwards.
Fox News: January 14, 2021, Shannon Bream
As investigators try to piece together exactly what happened last week, a left-wing social justice activist allegedly posing as a journalist, was just arrested by the FBI in Utah. The FBI affidavit says he’s on video egging on protesters at the Capitol. He said things like, “we’re about to burn this down and we ain’t waiting until the next election.” An Arkansas man also among several others arrested today accused of beating a police officer with a flagpole.
Hello, welcome to "Fox News @ Night," I’m Shannon Bream in Washington. We begin tonight with White House correspondent Kevin Corke on the scene in DC, and he’s telling us the latest about the build up. Kevin.
Even as the number of National Guard personnel continues to grow here in the nation's capital, questions remain about the origin of the threat assessment that’s led to this massive buildup here. We’re talking about troop levels greater than those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. By the thousands they’ve come to Washington, in armed and armored preparation for possible demonstrations this weekend hoping to avoid a repeat of the deadly violence that struck the capital last week as a nation now prepares to inaugurate a new president. On hand, some 21,000 national guardsmen to help secure the city.
[Christopher Wray, FBI Director] “Anybody who plots or intends violence in the coming weeks should count on a visit. Together with our partners here in the district and across the country we will do everything we can to ensure a smooth transition of power in the days to come.”
But officials who were sharply criticized for being unprepared last week at the Capitol say they are not taking any chances. Particularly considering a day before rioters stormed Congress, an FBI office in Virginia issued an explicit warning that extremists were preparing to travel to Washington to commit violence and war. Indeed, numerous FBI memos appear to have set the tone for the massive buildup including one this week warning of armed protests in all 50 state capitals. And another from December citing collaborative sources suggesting members of the Boogaloo movement, could host potentially violent events on January 17. Those memos were later cap-stoned by a three-agency bulletin claiming that violent extremist activity will likely surge and pose the greatest domestic terrorism threat in 2021. And yet there's still evidence of some disagreement over the actual threat levels. Even within the federal government. The Interior Department, the umbrella agency that includes the national park service and manages spaces like the Mall in Washington has elected to not shutdown the area for inauguration day. At least, not yet.
[Mike Pence]: "The American people can continue to be confident that our administraation will continue to work every day. between now and January 20th, to ensure an orderly transition to ensure a safe inauguration for our president-elect, for our vice president-elect, and for all of the American people. They deserve nothing less."
Indeed, they deserve nothing less. By the way, tonight, we've learned the Biden team actually had a rehearsal scheduled for Sunday here in the nation’s capital. That rehearsal has been postponed due to security threats, and again, that underscores what's happened here in our city tonight.
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Evidence?
Have you browsed the Conservapedia? It is a sad piece of evidence of how low Conservatives now stand.
That such a site exists and has no obvious saner counterpart speaks volumes.
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Yerda
Veteran Member
As an incumbent with a strong economy, Donald Trump was favored to win the 2020 U.S. presidential election. However, Democrats, through the use of voter fraud, stole the election from Donald Trump and gave it to Joe Biden illegally.
Donald Trump - Conservapedia
This is gold.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Looks like a double whataboutism to me as well.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
It's always someone else's fault.
The whole site is like that. An unholy mix of Narnia, QAnon and who knows what else.As an incumbent with a strong economy, Donald Trump was favored to win the 2020 U.S. presidential election. However, Democrats, through the use of voter fraud, stole the election from Donald Trump and gave it to Joe Biden illegally.
Donald Trump - Conservapedia
www.conservapedia.com
This is gold.
More to the point, it is apparently inherently impossible for someone who professes so-called "conservative values" to be in the wrong or to deserve any form of significant criticism.It's always someone else's fault.
Could that be a mistaken stance? A misguided and misguiding stance, even?
Yeah. It is. You bet it is.
Conservapedia, like Trump's White House, is a repository of "alternative facts."
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Thank goodness not from everywhere. I literally hear NOTHING "revolutionary" anywhere I go, anytime, anyplace.
And yet it seems to be spared of any questioning or criticism by anyone who considers himself a conservative.
What does that say about the conservatives of today?
As I said earlier, there does not even seem to exist any obvious, saner alternative that still considers itself conservative.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
We all know you're well versed in whataboutism.
How about commenting on the actual thread topic? This is what, you're third whataboutism so far?
Those numbers are the opinion of the extreme right wing Cato Institute. There's no reason to believe that bias is in any way accurate.
I have almost zero agreement with the policies of someone like Liz Cheney but she and some others are at least principled conservatives and thus totally marginalized in today's environment.