Even though you are a trinity believer; you can see the need for Jesus name baptism

[Dinner123]

Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


Matthew 28:19 says to baptise in the Son's name. So, what is the Son's name? Is it just Son? or Is it actually Jesus?


Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

[Shermana]

"The basic form of our (Matthew 28:19 Trinitarian) profession of faith took shape during the course of the second and third centuries in connection with the ceremony of baptism. So far as its place of origin is concerned, the text (Matthew 28:19) came from the city of Rome."

- Cardinal Ratzinger

The original wording was most likely just "In my name" as it says in Eusebius's version. There may be more than just coincidence in the fact that many of the early copies of Matthew happen to have 28:19 ripped out, and there may be a reason why it coincides with the "Long form" versions of "Ignatius's epistles".

But yes, it is just in Yeshu's name.

 

[Xian Catalyst]

Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


Matthew 28:19 says to baptise in the Son's name. So, what is the Son's name? Is it just Son? or Is it actually Jesus?


Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

The real crime is those who think the MAGICAL NAME does anything. The NAME, like smith, carpenter, etc.. describes a title/job/purpose (baptist). Jesus was the Christ. You can read that verse two ways.

1 there are three names to be considered.

2 there are three entities under one name.
.....OR, baptise in the name of (who the following are as one.)

 

[Xian Catalyst]

- Cardinal Ratzinger

The original wording was most likely just "In my name" as it says in Eusebius's version. There may be more than just coincidence in the fact that many of the early copies of Matthew happen to have 28:19 ripped out, and there may be a reason why it coincides with the "Long form" versions of "Ignatius's epistles".

But yes, it is just in Yeshu's name.

I've never seen this verse referenced by the early fathers, even when they were discussing Trinity.

Rather than ripped out, magically AFTER it was written, it's more likely it wasn't there.

I can't find a place in the bible someone was baptized like that.

 

[Dinner123]

The way I see it; if Jesus wanted us to baptise in His name; we should obey. And, His name is the wisdom of God.

Because that word "name" is singular tense. There is one name for these three. And that means these are names describing one entity. These names Father, Son, holy Spirit describe relationships He shares with creation. But, God is only one; although He has many character traits. Even Jewish thought claims God has plurality of majestic purpose. That is what I guess some claim Elohim means. I think the word Elohim may show us that God is the only God ever needed. The nations around them had whole pantheons of specialist gods. A god for rain, a god for sun, a god of war etc. But, Yah is all the pantheon that they ever need because He is God of all purposes and all needs. So He is their "Elohim". In old and new Testament scriptures, there are many varying manifestations of the same God. Jesus was the manifestation of God in human flesh. (Col. 2:8-9) His name even meaning Yah's salvation.

 

[Xian Catalyst]

Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


Matthew 28:19 says to baptise in the Son's name. So, what is the Son's name? Is it just Son? or Is it actually Jesus?


Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Go read how a Priest and High Priest was annointed in the OT.

Then read how Christ was baptized.

 

[Dinner123]

Go read how a Priest and High Priest was annointed in the OT.

Then read how Christ was baptized.

Are you saying Jesus was baptised to be made a priest? Or what?

 

[Xian Catalyst]

I think I said to go read about how a priest and high priest was annointed in the OT.

I think it gives you some in depth perception on the OP.

 

[Dinner123]

To further speak of the original topic. I ask trinity believers to consider that Jesus said the holy Spirit would be sent in Jesus name.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

And when you say Jesus is Lord, it's to the glory of who? Why, God the Father of course.

Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

 

[Shiranui117]

To further speak of the original topic. I ask trinity believers to consider that Jesus said the holy Spirit would be sent in Jesus name.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

And when you say Jesus is Lord, it's to the glory of who? Why, God the Father of course.

Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

I consider "baptising in Jesus' name" to be baptising in Jesus' authority. Think of it as a king's servant shouting, "Stop, in the name of the king!" As far as the actual formula of baptism is concerned, I believe it is baptism in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit that is the authentic and ancient formula--see the Didache on that note.

 

[Dinner123]

I consider "baptising in Jesus' name" to be baptising in Jesus' authority. Think of it as a king's servant shouting, "Stop, in the name of the king!" As far as the actual formula of baptism is concerned, I believe it is baptism in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit that is the authentic and ancient formula--see the Didache on that note.

I have read it(translated).

 

[WordSponge]

Hello all,

This is a most surprising, amazing, joyful, unspeakable experience.
The life after with help from him is really needed by us human.
I hope for the others who have not done it.
This experience will bind Christians to Christ and eachother in a way that we never experienced before.

My best to all.

 

[Shermana]

I consider "baptising in Jesus' name" to be baptising in Jesus' authority. Think of it as a king's servant shouting, "Stop, in the name of the king!" As far as the actual formula of baptism is concerned, I believe it is baptism in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit that is the authentic and ancient formula--see the Didache on that note.

It's widely agreed that the Formula in the Didache is interpolated, as it is interpolated in Ignatius's epistles as well.

http://www.sofiatopia.org/equiaeon/didache.htm

The baptisimal formula is trinitarian. It is probably a later interpolation.31 Nowhere else is the "Son" invoked (except in His apocalyptic reversal - 16:4), and nowhere is the identity between Jesus and this the "Son" of the "Father" clearly and explicidly made.