Ever been attacked by a malevolent Spirit?

[MyM]

These are not ordinary times. God will destroy the entire world and everyone and everything in it very soon. These are the "end times." This was predicted in Revelation in the bible. But, it was also predicted in many cultures around the world. For example, the Mayan calendar ends very soon, and that is the end of the world. The Mayan myth is that a dragon will destroy the world. The same is said in Revelation (in the Christian bible....the new testament)--that is, a dragon and his son the beast will destroy the world. The Chinese myth is that a dragon will destroy the world, and will do it very soon.

I wonder if the Chinese and Mayan civilizations are from the same source. There is an Alaska settlement of Chinese people (brass buckle found from a smelter in China), that dates to 1100 AD, proving that the Chinese discovered America before Columbus. The Olmec civilization of central America has chinese artifacts, and a research paper said that there are many similarities between Mayan writing and Chinese writing. By the way, the Mayan calendar is the same as the Olmec calendar, and it appears that it was a continuation of their civilization.

Because we are in the end times, Satanic forces are more common. You will see wars, torture camps, etc.

Guantanamo is by no means the only torture camp. There are many.

That is why we know exactly what is going to happen. Christianity has a dream. Islam has documented proofs going back to the prophet pbuh. If you want, I can list some of the major major signs before the day of judgement if you wish.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Psychologists call it lucid dreaming. But non-psychologists might recognize it as a psychic attack (perhaps a spirit, live psychic, incubus, succubus, or a poultergeist).

The Demon Attacks at Night: Explaining the Incubus Phenomenon

Night hag - Wikipedia

Asmodeus - Wikipedia

Lilith in popular culture - Wikipedia

The websites above discuss the issues at length.

I'm aware that there have been multiple theories of paranormal influences or activity behind sleep paralysis. I don't think it's anything beyond a biological phenomenon, though. (I don't believe in spirits, demons, etc., due to the lack of rigorous evidence, although I'm open to the idea that unseen entities may exist as a part of nature.)

 

[BilliardsBall]

Last night in my sleep I was tortured by something resembling the head of a dog, sinking it's fangs in my flesh, and I felt my brain leaping around in my skull (which reminded me of John the Baptist leaping in Elizabeth
's womb) , and I knew I was dreaming, trying to awake, and somewhere in the dream, I was asking the exorcist from the Diocese of Helena (who I used to meet with) for an exorcism!

I tried my greatest to wake up from the dream, knowing well aware it was a dream, but while regaining consciousness, I could still feel teeth marks in my flesh!

I jumped out of bed when I could, to go use the restroom, and my roommate immediately jumped out of bed shrieking like he had a malevolent Spirit too!

I don't get frightened by hardly anything these days (I mean, being a lover and handler of spiders , which were my greatest phobia, taught me love and embrace fear) but the experience was disturbing and mildly traumatic, especially the way my roommate jumped out of bed shrieking like he was haunted by some diabolical entity right after awaking from it.

I'm well aware that Psychosis and mental illness is a thing, but no antipsychotics or medication would help stop this (and other manifestations I have experienced).

Also, mental illness and psychosis has a much different feeling to it, different symptoms, and it seemed like the person in my room was afflicted by the same attack or something, which also gives suspicion something more than a nightmare was taking place.

I was also tossing and turning in my bed , well aware it was a dream, trying to awaken. Because I wasn't conscious, I was even aware while unconscious , that I was going to be far less vulnerable to the attack when awake. (Scripture gives many examples of spirits, Angels, or God influencing people more when they are unconscious! The same is true of enemy spirits).

Also, I find that there are things which have been mentioned countless times at RF, following inner locutions of Spiritual influence, that sometimes eliminate the possibility of mental health conditions and psychosis alone (for such an experience).

Plus, I think mental illness and psychosis can be a direct cause of Spiritual influence or entities, or leave a person more vulnerable to them, so it can be a complex combination and mix of both.

I don't think modern Psychiatry or medication is treating the whole person. That is not to say a seasoned exorcist is usually the answer to such afflictions.

But I fear, in an age where we no longer believe much in spiritual entities influencing us, it can empower and make such malevolent spirits more rampant in the destruction they cause, and their influence over us.

The lack of faith in such entities influencing us , is a rather recent "Johnny Come Lately" for humanity, in that it dismisses an extremely common conviction that was believed by the vast majority of people, regardless of whether they be primitive faiths, pagans, Hindus, Shamans, Shinto, Christians, Muslims, Pantheists, Taoists, Jews, and beyond, so our "enlightened age" might not be as "enlightened" as we think, and causing mental illness, suicide, break up of families, school shootings, and all sorts of crime to increase!

It seems to be one of the "Errors of Russia" that Mary warned at Fatima would spread throughout the world!

It didn't seem to be a strong or so common a belief that Spiritual entities rarely cause mental or emotional problems, (or never cause them at all) prior to the rise of Communism and it's spread!

I'm not promoting Christianity so much (as I don't qualify as Christian) , but as America grows more and more fond on average of secularization of everything, the crime rate has gone way up, we didn't used to have these school shootings and random shootings, homicide gone way up, unwanted pregnancies, (sexual transmitted diseases allegedly will afflict one in five Americans. Myself experienced curable ones, but for many there is no cure), the amount of people harmed through sexual vices, drug addiction gone way up, division, fatherless children, and America has become extremely heavily medicated on Psychotropic drugs.

The list of disorders that have increased with our "Enlightenment", sexual revolutions, secularization of everything, and moral relativism, goes on, to the point it isn't enlightenment or liberation, but weakening society and enslaving us to vice (from what the evidence shows).

Mockery of morality, faith, noble mindedness, wisdom, and prudence, and glorification of immorality in the media and entertainment industry does indeed create vicious hearts, which I experienced first-hand!

Most people can probably have offensive, immoral, violent music playing, and it doesn't make them bad, or watch it glorified on videos, or from peers, or view hardcore porn without it causing severe corruption, but that wasn't my experience as a child.

What I was listening to, the blatant wickedness glorified, and the virtues I saw mocked in the media and entertainment, made me actually intentionally want to remove every ounce of human decency from my mind, heart, and soul, fueled a hatred for God, Religion, purity, innocence, nobility, chivalry, and other high moral standards, and choosing the opposite!

I'm sure that isn't what happens as a general rule, but to a lesser extreme degree, a toxic effect, especially on young developing minds, is going to take place, which will weaken society, relationships, and break up the nuclear family, create bad habits, send harmful messages to the subconscious, condition a person to be more selfish and less considerate to others.

At any rate, your thoughts are appreciated, and have you ever thought or felt like a Spiritual entity was attacking you?

JESUS!

 

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I'm aware that there have been multiple theories of paranormal influences or activity behind sleep paralysis. I don't think it's anything beyond a biological phenomenon, though. (I don't believe in spirits, demons, etc., due to the lack of rigorous evidence, although I'm open to the idea that unseen entities may exist as a part of nature.)

I believe our thought process is linked to the spiritual world and these unseen entities. We wouldn't be able to properly reflect and think without them. The thing is both misguiding forces and guided forces in unseen, think they are guided.

Just like very few humans are malicious and want to be evil for the heck of it, same with Jinn.

The misguided and causing misguidance, believe in what they do. They believe it's for the good of humans they do it too. God's Angels are chosen and drawn close to him and hence don't doubt, but many guided Jinn (Angels) can waver.


In general, Satan and his forces try to control humans and make sure they don't deviate from a plan. Within that plan, they allow humans to choose, but if you become a problem to their timeline and plan, they will try to harm you and stop you.

They justify it to themselves that it's for the greater good.

But if you seek asylum in God's safe haven, you will be protected. Then you become part of God's plan through the Master king of the time, the Guide of age.

 

[TurkeyOnRye]

I used to experience sleep paralysis and demonic visitations extremely often when I was in my 20s. I've had dozens and dozens of these experiences. Sometimes it was a non-descript presence of something in the room. Other times, I'd feel as though I was being dragged off the bed. Another time, a demon nuzzled my left temple while crying and mumbling in my ear. The worst visitation of all involved an old woman slowly walking toward my bed in the pitch black. I could hear her footsteps and her moaning. Terror showered over me, as the expectation was that if she got to me, something extremely horrible would happen. I snapped out of bed faster than I ever had in my life to turn the light switch on.

But now, it doesn't happen anymore. Over time, what I realized was happening was that as my consciousness and inner world was maturing, my dysfunctional beliefs and attitudes were bubbling up to the surface, so to speak. Those attitudes, beliefs, and presuppositions were literally reaching out for me during my most vulnerable moments at night. It's really important to understand that these demons are no one else's but your own and they are not outside of your border of power. They can't physically harm you, but as you're well aware, some of these experiences can be extremely frightening and disconcerting, and if the experience is particularly impactful, can leave impressions for a while after you wake up. The thing is, as YOU change, so will the character and shape of the spirits that visit you. It really is wild what the human imagination is capable of.

Just as you have been doing, I focused a lot of energy casting my attention to external things that weren't really of any consequence to my own life. As I focused on others and the world around me, my own life was falling apart before my eyes. Someone told me during that time, "...focusing on the plight of others neatly avoids turning that focus back on yourself." So, while reading block after block of you speaking of other matters, I was waiting for you to say something like....

...I am a very broken man...

I question my sanity big time...

The solution is very simple (at least in concept). Address the problems and challenges of your own life. Problems of the spirit are intrinsically linked to problems in the physical world. So, live in practicality. Stop canoodling with the dead, and the dead will stop canoodling with you. Potentially, you have a deeply-fulfilling physical and spiritual life ahead of you. It's all up to you because you are the one in control.

 

[Clara Tea]

I used to experience sleep paralysis and demonic visitations extremely often when I was in my 20s. I've had dozens and dozens of these experiences. Sometimes it was a non-descript presence of something in the room. Other times, I'd feel as though I was being dragged off the bed. Another time, a demon nuzzled my left temple while crying and mumbling in my ear. The worst visitation of all involved an old woman slowly walking toward my bed in the pitch black. I could hear her footsteps and her moaning. Terror showered over me, as the expectation was that if she got to me, something extremely horrible would happen. I snapped out of bed faster than I ever had in my life to turn the light switch on.

But now, it doesn't happen anymore. Over time, what I realized was happening was that as my consciousness and inner world was maturing, my dysfunctional beliefs and attitudes were bubbling up to the surface, so to speak. Those attitudes, beliefs, and presuppositions were literally reaching out for me during my most vulnerable moments at night. It's really important to understand that these demons are no one else's but your own and they are not outside of your border of power. They can't physically harm you, but as you're well aware, some of these experiences can be extremely frightening and disconcerting, and if the experience is particularly impactful, can leave impressions for a while after you wake up. The thing is, as YOU change, so will the character and shape of the spirits that visit you. It really is wild what the human imagination is capable of.

Just as you have been doing, I focused a lot of energy casting my attention to external things that weren't really of any consequence to my own life. As I focused on others and the world around me, my own life was falling apart before my eyes. Someone told me during that time, "...focusing on the plight of others neatly avoids turning that focus back on yourself." So, while reading block after block of you speaking of other matters, I was waiting for you to say something like....



The solution is very simple (at least in concept). Address the problems and challenges of your own life. Problems of the spirit are intrinsically linked to problems in the physical world. So, live in practicality. Stop canoodling with the dead, and the dead will stop canoodling with you. Potentially, you have a deeply-fulfilling physical and spiritual life ahead of you. It's all up to you because you are the one in control.

God chose prophets in modern times to warn everyone not to attack Iraq. That's not a new message, it is an old one, and it is in the bible, in the chapter called Revelation. But, God was lamenting that no one heeded His commandments in Revelation (commandment not to attack Iraq), so he sent modern prophets.

I was greatly honored by having many of God's prophets as my friends.

If it hadn't been for getting together in a group, we individually would have to question our sanity, due to the magnitude of the event. But we supported each other, played psychic games with each other (telling people far away how many fingers we are holding up), astral projected to other prophets houses, etc. Thereby, the prophets of God assured each other that God's gifts of psychic visions were real.

Our group had no problem with demonic visitations, since our group could do everything that a demon or dead person could do, and then some, and the prophets of God were far more powerful than almost any demon.

But, these were strange times, according to Revelation (the Christian bible). These were the end times when two beasts escaped from the bottomless pit of hell, inhabited the leaders of the most powerful nation in the world (according to Revelation 17:18), and defied God's commandment not to attack Babylon. Under these extreme conditions, our group of prophets of God were forced to read the mind of the demon (the beast) that possessed president George W. Bush (creator of the war in Iraq and torture camps). What the prophets of God found was not human. It was demonic....definitely a demon from hell. It was extremely powerful....unlike any ghost or demon that ordinarily roams the planet. Of course a powerful demon inhabits a high ranking politician....demons seek power, and would be useless if they wielded no power at all.

Probing W. Bush's soul was terrifying....the power....the evil......the dark soul.

When did W. Bush get this dark soul?

I believe that the sun is hell (it's certainly hot enough). When planets last aligned the year was 1749. That's by our calendar. But by the Egyptian Coptic calendar, the year is 666. That is the mark of the beast.

When president W. Bush took office, 8 of the planets aligned again. This was enough of a disruption of the gravitational force of the sun to allow powerful demons to escape their hell prison, and come to earth and inhabit a person (the most powerful person so that they could affect changes). So, Revelation (a chapter of the Christian bible) was right....demons did escape hell in modern times, and did cause the wars (including the war in Iraq).

Even with the power of God behind the prophets of God, it was still a frightful thing to confront one of the most powerful demons from hell.

Many questioned if the psychics of God were real. Well, they said nothing other than what is written in Revelation (and that is part of the bible). They said nothing false. But many people argued that only those who want to kill in the war are on God's side. But they don't realize that God commanded "thou shalt not kill." So, they were listening to Satan, and following the commands of Satan, and they didn't even realize that.

Now there are pastors changing the meaning of Revelation, trying to make it seem that the Babylon of the bible is not the Babylon that has been there for thousands of years. While it is true that ancient Babylon had been rebuilt, the capital of Iraq is the right Babylon, and the prophets of God assured us of that. Revelation (a chapter of the Christian bible) says that anyone altering the meaning of Revelation will be written out of the book of life forever, and will be cast into the bottomless pit of hell and burn in the fires of hell forever.

 

[Eyes to See]

Last night in my sleep I was tortured by something resembling the head of a dog, sinking it's fangs in my flesh, and I felt my brain leaping around in my skull (which reminded me of John the Baptist leaping in Elizabeth
's womb) , and I knew I was dreaming, trying to awake, and somewhere in the dream, I was asking the exorcist from the Diocese of Helena (who I used to meet with) for an exorcism!

I tried my greatest to wake up from the dream, knowing well aware it was a dream, but while regaining consciousness, I could still feel teeth marks in my flesh!

I jumped out of bed when I could, to go use the restroom, and my roommate immediately jumped out of bed shrieking like he had a malevolent Spirit too!

I don't get frightened by hardly anything these days (I mean, being a lover and handler of spiders , which were my greatest phobia, taught me love and embrace fear) but the experience was disturbing and mildly traumatic, especially the way my roommate jumped out of bed shrieking like he was haunted by some diabolical entity right after awaking from it.

I'm well aware that Psychosis and mental illness is a thing, but no antipsychotics or medication would help stop this (and other manifestations I have experienced).

Also, mental illness and psychosis has a much different feeling to it, different symptoms, and it seemed like the person in my room was afflicted by the same attack or something, which also gives suspicion something more than a nightmare was taking place.

I was also tossing and turning in my bed , well aware it was a dream, trying to awaken. Because I wasn't conscious, I was even aware while unconscious , that I was going to be far less vulnerable to the attack when awake. (Scripture gives many examples of spirits, Angels, or God influencing people more when they are unconscious! The same is true of enemy spirits).

Also, I find that there are things which have been mentioned countless times at RF, following inner locutions of Spiritual influence, that sometimes eliminate the possibility of mental health conditions and psychosis alone (for such an experience).

Plus, I think mental illness and psychosis can be a direct cause of Spiritual influence or entities, or leave a person more vulnerable to them, so it can be a complex combination and mix of both.

I don't think modern Psychiatry or medication is treating the whole person. That is not to say a seasoned exorcist is usually the answer to such afflictions.

But I fear, in an age where we no longer believe much in spiritual entities influencing us, it can empower and make such malevolent spirits more rampant in the destruction they cause, and their influence over us.

The lack of faith in such entities influencing us , is a rather recent "Johnny Come Lately" for humanity, in that it dismisses an extremely common conviction that was believed by the vast majority of people, regardless of whether they be primitive faiths, pagans, Hindus, Shamans, Shinto, Christians, Muslims, Pantheists, Taoists, Jews, and beyond, so our "enlightened age" might not be as "enlightened" as we think, and causing mental illness, suicide, break up of families, school shootings, and all sorts of crime to increase!

It seems to be one of the "Errors of Russia" that Mary warned at Fatima would spread throughout the world!

It didn't seem to be a strong or so common a belief that Spiritual entities rarely cause mental or emotional problems, (or never cause them at all) prior to the rise of Communism and it's spread!

I'm not promoting Christianity so much (as I don't qualify as Christian) , but as America grows more and more fond on average of secularization of everything, the crime rate has gone way up, we didn't used to have these school shootings and random shootings, homicide gone way up, unwanted pregnancies, (sexual transmitted diseases allegedly will afflict one in five Americans. Myself experienced curable ones, but for many there is no cure), the amount of people harmed through sexual vices, drug addiction gone way up, division, fatherless children, and America has become extremely heavily medicated on Psychotropic drugs.

The list of disorders that have increased with our "Enlightenment", sexual revolutions, secularization of everything, and moral relativism, goes on, to the point it isn't enlightenment or liberation, but weakening society and enslaving us to vice (from what the evidence shows).

Mockery of morality, faith, noble mindedness, wisdom, and prudence, and glorification of immorality in the media and entertainment industry does indeed create vicious hearts, which I experienced first-hand!

Most people can probably have offensive, immoral, violent music playing, and it doesn't make them bad, or watch it glorified on videos, or from peers, or view hardcore porn without it causing severe corruption, but that wasn't my experience as a child.

What I was listening to, the blatant wickedness glorified, and the virtues I saw mocked in the media and entertainment, made me actually intentionally want to remove every ounce of human decency from my mind, heart, and soul, fueled a hatred for God, Religion, purity, innocence, nobility, chivalry, and other high moral standards, and choosing the opposite!

I'm sure that isn't what happens as a general rule, but to a lesser extreme degree, a toxic effect, especially on young developing minds, is going to take place, which will weaken society, relationships, and break up the nuclear family, create bad habits, send harmful messages to the subconscious, condition a person to be more selfish and less considerate to others.

At any rate, your thoughts are appreciated, and have you ever thought or felt like a Spiritual entity was attacking you?

Greetings. You open an OP and open on a topic that has affected all of humanity throughout history. And being atheist doesn't make one immune to spiritual assault. There are many atheists have who have been assailed from the demonic realm.

Your conclusions of how society has drowned in its own depravity while considering itself pure and good has had a huge impact on the evil (which they consider subjective, and many even good) being done in the world, concur with what the Bible foretold will happen in the last days.

A friend of mine brought out something to me that I never thought of but when you contemplate it, makes sense. Many in the western world have adopted spritistic practices and ideologies from eastern religions. One example is yoga. In fact people who aren't necessarily religious will practice yoga and merely consider it a form of physical exercise unknowing of its true origin and nature. It is a Hinduistic philosophy and practice whose soul goal is to get into contact with the spirit world. Yoga can be seen as a primer for further spirtisitc practices such as meditation (which many practice). Both Yoga and meditation are spiritisitc practices that can lead to direct demonic influence and/or possession. Of which many people in the west who engage in such eastern spiritistic practices are entirely unaware.

The rise in popularity of witchcraft and occultism also is responsible for much harm. Many start in such practices naive to their true nature, and like the Proverb that says: "The shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself, but the inexperienced keep right on going and suffer the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3.

One of the marks of false religion is that it encourages spiritism. The Bible is unique in its rejection of all forms of spiritistic practices and reveals their source is from Satan the Devil. In Revelation we are told that the worldwide empire of false religion has mislead the entire inhabited earth with her spiritistic practices:

"For your merchants were the top-ranking men of the earth, and by your spiritistic practices all the nations were misled."-Revelation 18:23.

Revelation has also shown us that Satan the Devil is misleading everyone!

"So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth."-Revelation 12:9.

One of the ways in which Satan misleads people is making them believe the soul is immortal and that the dead are alive. The Bible teaches us that the dead are sleeping in God's memory and have no knowledge or wisdom:

(Ecclesiastes 9:5) For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.

(Ecclesiastes 9:10) Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.

Satan uses spiritism, in all its form as a skilled fisherman uses bait. The naive may believe they are in contact with dead people who are not conscious, when in reality they have come in contact with Satan and his demons. A servant of God is not fooled by their trickery, nevertheless, because God has given us the truth found in his word the Bible. And Jehovah God detests anyone who tries to get in contact with a spirit medium or contact the dead:

"There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, anyone practicing magic, anyone who looks for omens, a sorcerer, anyone binding others with a spell, anyone who consults a spirit medium or a fortune-teller, or anyone who inquires of the dead.  For whoever does these things is detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable practices Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you."-Deuteronomy 18:10-12.

 

[Spiderman]

Greetings. You open an OP and open on a topic that has affected all of humanity throughout history. And being atheist doesn't make one immune to spiritual assault. There are many atheists have who have been assailed from the demonic realm.

Your conclusions of how society has drowned in its own depravity while considering itself pure and good has had a huge impact on the evil (which they consider subjective, and many even good) being done in the world, concur with what the Bible foretold will happen in the last days.

A friend of mine brought out something to me that I never thought of but when you contemplate it, makes sense. Many in the western world have adopted spritistic practices and ideologies from eastern religions. One example is yoga. In fact people who aren't necessarily religious will practice yoga and merely consider it a form of physical exercise unknowing of its true origin and nature. It is a Hinduistic philosophy and practice whose soul goal is to get into contact with the spirit world. Yoga can be seen as a primer for further spirtisitc practices such as meditation (which many practice). Both Yoga and meditation are spiritisitc practices that can lead to direct demonic influence and/or possession. Of which many people in the west who engage in such eastern spiritistic practices are entirely unaware.

The rise in popularity of witchcraft and occultism also is responsible for much harm. Many start in such practices naive to their true nature, and like the Proverb that says: "The shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself, but the inexperienced keep right on going and suffer the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3.

One of the marks of false religion is that it encourages spiritism. The Bible is unique in its rejection of all forms of spiritistic practices and reveals their source is from Satan the Devil. In Revelation we are told that the worldwide empire of false religion has mislead the entire inhabited earth with her spiritistic practices:

"For your merchants were the top-ranking men of the earth, and by your spiritistic practices all the nations were misled."-Revelation 18:23.

Revelation has also shown us that Satan the Devil is misleading everyone!

"So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth."-Revelation 12:9.

One of the ways in which Satan misleads people is making them believe the soul is immortal and that the dead are alive. The Bible teaches us that the dead are sleeping in God's memory and have no knowledge or wisdom:

(Ecclesiastes 9:5) For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.

(Ecclesiastes 9:10) Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.

Satan uses spiritism, in all its form as a skilled fisherman uses bait. The naive may believe they are in contact with dead people who are not conscious, when in reality they have come in contact with Satan and his demons. A servant of God is not fooled by their trickery, nevertheless, because God has given us the truth found in his word the Bible. And Jehovah God detests anyone who tries to get in contact with a spirit medium or contact the dead:

"There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, anyone practicing magic, anyone who looks for omens, a sorcerer, anyone binding others with a spell, anyone who consults a spirit medium or a fortune-teller, or anyone who inquires of the dead.  For whoever does these things is detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable practices Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you."-Deuteronomy 18:10-12.

The poor man Lazarus was taken to Abraham's bosom and Abraham interacted with the rich man in hades after death, Jesus was seen on Mount Tabor with Elijah and Moses, Samuel appeared to Saul and told him that soon he would join him in the world of the dead.

The Bible contradicts itself in many passages. Scripture says "we are one body in Christ, branches connected to the true Vine".

Christ said people who died believing in him, even if they die, they live.

When a person dies they do not cease to be a member of the body of Christ.

Every Christian Church on the face of the earth had devotion to the communion of Saints , and no Church condemned the practice for over 1500 years. Christ must be an extremely lousy shepherd and not trustworthy if he let all Christian Churches on earth go astray for over 1500 years.

The Bible has many verses that say the opposite of what other verses say, and much of what is commanded in the Old Testament is not supposed to be followed, and easily taken out of context, and applies to that very primitive time and culture.

Therefore, the Bible is not a good guide when it clearly says the opposite of what it says to do and what not to do. No where in the Bible does it say the Bible is the authority on anything.

It says the Bible is useful, but that doesn't mean it is the most important authority.

The first Christians were not Bible Christians because there was no Bible. The Bible says "listen to the Church". It doesn't say "listen to the Bible".

What is not approved at one time in Scripture is later approved and sanctioned, and what is required at one time, no longer required. That is a reoccurring theme and message throughout Scripture.

So, you are mistaken and stand in complete contradiction of the Bible and essence of Christianity for over 1500 years. The Bible makes it very clear the dead go on living.

Book of revelation even shows the martyrs interceding for earth and calling for God's vengeance to strike earth, as well as a woman standing on the Moon, clothed with Sun, crowned with stars, who battles the Dragon.

So, you are very mistaken and mislead, and far from Biblically sound or accurate. Have a nice day!

 

[Spiderman]

JESUS!

What's that supposed to mean?

 

[Eyes to See]

The poor man Lazarus was taken to Abraham's bosom and Abraham interacted with the rich man in hades after death, Jesus was seen on Mount Tabor with Elijah and Moses, Samuel appeared to Saul and told him that soon he would join him in the world of the dead.

The Bible contradicts itself in many passages. Scripture says "we are one body in Christ, branches connected to the true Vine".

Christ said people who died believing in him, even if they die, they live.

When a person dies they do not cease to be a member of the body of Christ.

Every Christian Church on the face of the earth had devotion to the communion of Saints , and no Church condemned the practice for over 1500 years. Christ must be an extremely lousy shepherd and not trustworthy if he let all Christian Churches on earth go astray for over 1500 years.

The Bible has many verses that say the opposite of what other verses say, and much of what is commanded in the Old Testament is not supposed to be followed, and easily taken out of context, and applies to that very primitive time and culture.

Therefore, the Bible is not a good guide when it clearly says the opposite of what it says to do and what not to do. No where in the Bible does it say the Bible is the authority on anything.

It says the Bible is useful, but that doesn't mean it is the most important authority.

The first Christians were not Bible Christians because there was no Bible. The Bible says "listen to the Church". It doesn't say "listen to the Bible".

What is not approved at one time in Scripture is later approved and sanctioned, and what is required at one time, no longer required. That is a reoccurring theme and message throughout Scripture.

So, you are mistaken and stand in complete contradiction of the Bible and essence of Christianity for over 1500 years. The Bible makes it very clear the dead go on living.

Book of revelation even shows the martyrs interceding for earth and calling for God's vengeance to strike earth, as well as a woman standing on the Moon, clothed with Sun, crowned with stars, who battles the Dragon.

So, you are very mistaken and mislead, and far from Biblically sound or accurate. Have a nice day!

The parable of the rich and and Lazarus was a parable. It wasn't a real account. All who die in Christ will live again. In God's eyes they have life. There is no contradiction. Jesus taught the resurrection of all faithful people. There would be no need of a resurrection of the dead the dead people were alive.

Samuel in life was forbidden by God to talk with Saul. Why do you think that after he died he would disobey Jehovah when he was obedient in life? It is obvious that the spirit Saul communicated with was a wicked spirit that pretended to be Samuel. Besides that wicked spirit that pretended to be Samuel made a prediction that did not come true. It told Saul that he and all his household would be destroyed. And yet only he and his son Jonathon were killed in battle the next day. There were still members of his household that lived on.

The Bible is a good and reliable guide. Sometimes you just have to read into the context and not twist or take things out of context. Like stating the parable of the rich man and Lazarus was real.

Jesus actually said of his friend Lazarus who had died that he was sleeping:

(John 11:11-14) 11 After he said these things, he added: “Lazʹa·rus our friend has fallen asleep, but I am traveling there to awaken him.” 12 The disciples then said to him: “Lord, if he is sleeping, he will get well.” 13 Jesus, however, had spoken about his death. But they imagined he was speaking about taking rest in sleep. 14 Then Jesus said to them plainly: “Lazʹa·rus has died,


And the Bible in other places refers to death as sleep.

The first century Christians were told to console each other with the fact that the holy saints who had died were sleeping and awaiting Jesus' return for the resurrection:

(1 Thessalonians 4:13, 14) 13 Moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who are sleeping in death, so that you may not sorrow as the rest do who have no hope. 14 For if we have faith that Jesus died and rose again, so too God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep in death through Jesus.

Even the first century Christians knew this, the dead are sleeping in death, awaiting the return of Jesus to resurrect them.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

The poor man Lazarus was taken to Abraham's bosom and Abraham interacted with the rich man in hades after death, Jesus was seen on Mount Tabor with Elijah and Moses, Samuel appeared to Saul and told him that soon he would join him in the world of the dead.

The Bible contradicts itself in many passages. Scripture says "we are one body in Christ, branches connected to the true Vine".

Christ said people who died believing in him, even if they die, they live.

When a person dies they do not cease to be a member of the body of Christ.

Every Christian Church on the face of the earth had devotion to the communion of Saints , and no Church condemned the practice for over 1500 years. Christ must be an extremely lousy shepherd and not trustworthy if he let all Christian Churches on earth go astray for over 1500 years.

The Bible has many verses that say the opposite of what other verses say, and much of what is commanded in the Old Testament is not supposed to be followed, and easily taken out of context, and applies to that very primitive time and culture.

Therefore, the Bible is not a good guide when it clearly says the opposite of what it says to do and what not to do. No where in the Bible does it say the Bible is the authority on anything.

It says the Bible is useful, but that doesn't mean it is the most important authority.

The first Christians were not Bible Christians because there was no Bible. The Bible says "listen to the Church". It doesn't say "listen to the Bible".

What is not approved at one time in Scripture is later approved and sanctioned, and what is required at one time, no longer required. That is a reoccurring theme and message throughout Scripture.

So, you are mistaken and stand in complete contradiction of the Bible and essence of Christianity for over 1500 years. The Bible makes it very clear the dead go on living.

Book of revelation even shows the martyrs interceding for earth and calling for God's vengeance to strike earth, as well as a woman standing on the Moon, clothed with Sun, crowned with stars, who battles the Dragon.

So, you are very mistaken and mislead, and far from Biblically sound or accurate. Have a nice day!

Well said. I couldn't agree with you more, Spiderman. There are clear contradictions in the Bible (101 Clear Contradictions In The Bible; Top 20 Most Damning Bible Contradictions). For example, in Hebrews 9:27, it says that people are destined to die once and after that face judgment, but in Revelation 20:13, it says that the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.

 

[Eyes to See]

Well said. I couldn't agree with you more, Spiderman. There are clear contradictions in the Bible (101 Clear Contradictions In The Bible; Top 20 Most Damning Bible Contradictions). For example, in Hebrews 9:27, it says that people are destined to die once and after that face judgment, but in Revelation 20:13, it says that the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. So much for the Bible's own claim of being useful for teaching, rebuking, and correcting (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

There is no contradiction. For all humankind who sin will die. But because of Jesus' ransom as the prophecy in Revelation foretells they can be resurrected, that is live again. In the future resurrection they will be judged, not according to what they did in their previous life, but according to how they respond to the scrolls that will be opened at that time:

(John 5:28, 29) . . .Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. . .

 

[Spiderman]

The parable of the rich and and Lazarus was a parable. It wasn't a real account. All who die in Christ will live again. In God's eyes they have life. There is no contradiction. Jesus taught the resurrection of all faithful people. There would be no need of a resurrection of the dead the dead people were alive.

Samuel in life was forbidden by God to talk with Saul. Why do you think that after he died he would disobey Jehovah when he was obedient in life? It is obvious that the spirit Saul communicated with was a wicked spirit that pretended to be Saul. Besides that wicked spirit that pretended to be Saul made a prediction that did not come true. It told Saul that he and all his household would be destroyed. And yet only he and his son Jonathon were killed in battle the next day. There were still members of his household that lived on.

The Bible is a good and reliable guide. Sometimes you just have to read into the context and not twist or take things out of context. Like stating the parable of the rich man and Lazarus was real.

Jesus actually said of his friend Lazarus who had died that he was sleeping:

(John 11:11-14) 11 After he said these things, he added: “Lazʹa·rus our friend has fallen asleep, but I am traveling there to awaken him.” 12 The disciples then said to him: “Lord, if he is sleeping, he will get well.” 13 Jesus, however, had spoken about his death. But they imagined he was speaking about taking rest in sleep. 14 Then Jesus said to them plainly: “Lazʹa·rus has died,


And the Bible in other places refers to death as sleep.

The first century Christians were told to console each other with the fact that the holy saints who had died were sleeping and awaiting Jesus' return for the resurrection:

(1 Thessalonians 4:13, 14) 13 Moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who are sleeping in death, so that you may not sorrow as the rest do who have no hope. 14 For if we have faith that Jesus died and rose again, so too God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep in death through Jesus.

Those who are died, even the first century Christians knew this, were sleeping in death, awaiting the return of Jesus to resurrect them.

Jesus Christ, whether it was parable or not, was speaking of what may have been a true story, and even if it wasn't, he would be misleading the people with his choice of words.

Why would Jesus create a scene of a dead person comforting a dead person and interacting with another dead person, if such things never happen??

That would not make sense because it implies the dead communicate with each other, and anyone with common sense knows, if that is a toxic belief, a good teacher wouldn't use parables to create beliefs and toxic ideas that are deceptive or might lead people into demonic practice.

Being asleep doesn't mean dead. God warned Joseph in his sleep to flee to Egypt and it saved Christ's life.

Sleep can be a state where you are in close communion with God

Jesus was with Moses on Mount Tabor.

The Martyrs in Revelation interceded for earth. A woman was seen in the sky , crowned with stars, standing on the Moon.

Your belief that the ghost of Samuel was an evil Spirit is completely unbiblical , and something you added to the story.

IF you want to believe that fine! But don't state it like it's fact , because that isn't what the Bible says.

Also, the fact that for over 1500 years every Christian Church on the face of the earth, including the Church that gave you your Bible, was okay with invoking the dead, is easily proven fact!

So, if the Church you get your Bible from is so Satanic....why on earth do you trust a Bible that comes from a Satanic Church of abominations???

It makes no sense whatsoever, and the picture you are creating is extreme bigotry, condemning most people as essentially Devil worshippers (including most Christians, and all Christians for over 1500 years)

The picture you are painting is so disgusting and makes God look so unreliable and impossible to trust , cruel, and such a terrible shepherd, it could make me vomit!

You're essentially saying Jesus lied to the Church when he said "upon this rock I will build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against her", and promised he would be with the Church.

Instead, this depressing, bigoted, hopeless, miserable philosophy, and teaching, is that Jesus lied and let all Christian Churches on earth turn into a bunch of Satanic Devil worshippers for over 1500 years!

It's extremely depressing, judgemental, bigoted, condemning, cruel, nauseating, and makes God look terrible!

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

The poor man Lazarus was taken to Abraham's bosom and Abraham interacted with the rich man in hades after death, Jesus was seen on Mount Tabor with Elijah and Moses, Samuel appeared to Saul and told him that soon he would join him in the world of the dead.

The Bible contradicts itself in many passages. Scripture says "we are one body in Christ, branches connected to the true Vine".

Christ said people who died believing in him, even if they die, they live.

When a person dies they do not cease to be a member of the body of Christ.

Every Christian Church on the face of the earth had devotion to the communion of Saints , and no Church condemned the practice for over 1500 years. Christ must be an extremely lousy shepherd and not trustworthy if he let all Christian Churches on earth go astray for over 1500 years.

The Bible has many verses that say the opposite of what other verses say, and much of what is commanded in the Old Testament is not supposed to be followed, and easily taken out of context, and applies to that very primitive time and culture.

Therefore, the Bible is not a good guide when it clearly says the opposite of what it says to do and what not to do. No where in the Bible does it say the Bible is the authority on anything.

It says the Bible is useful, but that doesn't mean it is the most important authority.

The first Christians were not Bible Christians because there was no Bible. The Bible says "listen to the Church". It doesn't say "listen to the Bible".

What is not approved at one time in Scripture is later approved and sanctioned, and what is required at one time, no longer required. That is a reoccurring theme and message throughout Scripture.

So, you are mistaken and stand in complete contradiction of the Bible and essence of Christianity for over 1500 years. The Bible makes it very clear the dead go on living.

Book of revelation even shows the martyrs interceding for earth and calling for God's vengeance to strike earth, as well as a woman standing on the Moon, clothed with Sun, crowned with stars, who battles the Dragon.

So, you are very mistaken and mislead, and far from Biblically sound or accurate. Have a nice day!

The Bible also teaches 'soul sleep,' (Matthew 27:52; Luke 8:52; 1 Corinthians 15:6, 20-23). In the Old Testament, there are multiple scriptures stating that the Kings of Israel "slept with their fathers and were buried in the City of David." Read 1 Thessalonians 4:13. So much for the Bible's own claim of being God-breathed and useful for teaching, rebuking, and correcting (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

 

[Eyes to See]

Jesus Christ, whether it was parable or not, was speaking of what may have been a true story, and even if it wasn't, he would be misleading the people with his choice of words.

Why would Jesus create a scene of a dead person comforting a dead person and interacting with another dead person, if such things never happen??

That would not make sense because it implies the dead communicate with each other, and anyone with common sense knows, if that is a toxic belief, a good teacher wouldn't use parables to create beliefs and toxic ideas that are deceptive or might lead people into demonic practice.

Being asleep doesn't mean dead. God warned Joseph in his sleep to flee to Egypt and it saved Christ's life.

Sleep can be a state where you are in close communion with God

Jesus was with Moses on Mount Tabor.

The Martyrs in Revelation interceded for earth. A woman was seen in the sky , crowned with stars, standing on the Moon.

Your belief that the ghost of Samuel was an evil Spirit is completely unbiblical , and something you added to the story.

IF you want to believe that fine! But don't state it like it's fact , because that isn't what the Bible says.

Also, the fact that for over 1500 years every Christian Church on the face of the earth, including the Church that gave you your Bible, was okay with invoking the dead, is easily proven fact!

So, if the Church you get your Bible from is so Satanic....why on earth do you trust a Bible that comes from a Satanic Church of abominations???

It makes no sense whatsoever, and the picture you are creating is extreme bigotry, condemning most people as essentially Devil worshippers (including most Christians, and all Christians for over 1500 years)

The picture you are painting is so disgusting and makes God look so unreliable and impossible to trust , cruel, and such a terrible shepherd, it could make me vomit!

You're essentially saying Jesus lied to the Church when he said "upon this rock I will build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against her", and promised he would be with the Church.

Instead, this depressing, bigoted, hopeless, miserable philosophy, and teaching, is that Jesus lied and let all Christian Churches on earth turn into a bunch of Satanic Devil worshippers for over 1500 years!

It's extremely depressing, judgemental, bigoted, condemning, cruel, nauseating, and makes God look terrible!

Jesus never lied. He said that the dead are asleep. For example he said of his friend Lazarus:

“Lazʹa·rus our friend has fallen asleep, but I am traveling there to awaken him."-John 11:11.

He did not teach his apostles that Lazarus was alive and somewhere else. Lazarus' sisters understood the truth about Lazarus condition. When Jesus told them Lazarus would live again, they exercised faith in the future resurrection stating:

"Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.”-John 11:24.

So they knew of future resurrection during the "last day." This is the thousand year reign. No where did Jesus teach in any place that the dead are living somewhere else.

The parable was just that a parable to teach a lesson.


Those listening to Jesus know that Abraham is long dead and in the Grave. The Scriptures make it clear that no one in the Grave, or Sheol, can see or speak, including Abraham. (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10) What, then, do these religious leaders think that Jesus means with this illustration? What might he be indicating about the common people and the money-loving religious leaders?

Jesus has just pointed to a change by saying that ‘the Law and the Prophets were until John the Baptist, but from then on the Kingdom of God is being declared as good news.’ Hence, it is with the preaching of John and Jesus Christ that both Lazarus and the rich man die to their former circumstances, or condition, and they experience new positions relative to God.

Specifically, those of the humble or poor class have long been spiritually deprived. But they are being helped by and are responding to the message about the Kingdom presented first by John the Baptist and then by Jesus. Formerly, they had to get by with what amounted to little ‘things dropped from the spiritual table’ of the religious leaders. Now they are being fed with essential Scriptural truths, particularly the wonderful things Jesus is explaining. It is as if they finally are in the favored position in the eyes of Jehovah God.

In contrast, those in the rich and influential class of religious leaders refuse to accept the Kingdom message that John proclaimed and that Jesus has been preaching throughout the land. (Matthew 3:1, 2; 4:17) In fact, they are angered, or tormented, by that message, which points to a coming fiery judgment from God. (Matthew 3:7-12) It would be a relief to the money-loving religious leaders if Jesus and his disciples would let up on declaring God’s message. Those leaders are like the rich man in the illustration, who says: “Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this blazing fire.”—Luke 16:24.

But that is not to happen. Most of the religious leaders will not change. They had refused to “listen to Moses and the Prophets,” which writings should have led them to accept Jesus as God’s Messiah and King. (Luke 16:29, 31; Galatians 3:24) Nor do they humble themselves and let themselves be persuaded by those poor ones who accept Jesus and now have divine favor. Jesus’ disciples, for their part, cannot compromise or water down the truth just to satisfy the religious leaders or give them relief. In his illustration, Jesus describes this reality in the words uttered by “Father Abraham” to the rich man: “Child, remember that you had your fill of good things in your lifetime, but Lazarus for his part received bad things. Now, however, he is being comforted here, but you are in anguish. And besides all these things, a great chasm has been fixed between us and you, so that those who want to go over from here to you cannot, neither may people cross over from there to us.”—Luke 16:25, 26.

How just and fitting it is that such a dramatic change takes place! It amounts to a reversal of position between the proud religious leaders and the humble ones who accept Jesus’ yoke and are finally being refreshed and fed spiritually. (Matthew 11:28-30) This change will be even more evident in a few months when the Law covenant is replaced by the new covenant. (Jeremiah 31:31-33; Colossians 2:14; Hebrews 8:7-13) When God pours out holy spirit on the day of Pentecost 33 C.E., it will be unmistakably clear that, rather than the Pharisees and their religious allies, Jesus’ disciples have God’s favor.

 

[Eyes to See]

The Bible also teaches 'soul sleep,' (Matthew 27:52; Luke 8:52; 1 Corinthians 15:6, 20-23). In the Old Testament, there are multiple scriptures stating that the Kings of Israel "slept with their fathers and were buried in the City of David." Read 1 Thessalonians 4:13. So much for the Bible's own claim of being God-breathed and useful for teaching, rebuking, and correcting (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

It is a Biblical teaching, that the dead are sleeping. Nowhere in any scripture in the Bible does it teach that anyone has been raised from the dead aside from Jesus Christ (who returned to heaven from whence he descended.)

The Bible teaches that when Jesus returns the holy ones, saints, who have been anointed to rule in heaven, who have died, will be raised first, and then afterward, there will be a resurrection of untold billions on a perfected paradise earth. This will be the "last day" that Martha put faith in. This is the thousand year reign of Christ.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Back to the actual topic of your OP, @Spiderman. It is possible to be physically attacked by a malevolent human spirit or a demonic entity. I've shared my personal experiences with you earlier in your thread. I hope my story helps you, and I hope I've been able to give you some useful insight in our private discussion. Honestly, feeling the presence of spirits is an everyday occurrence for me, so I'm accustomed to it. I don't communicate with spirits on a daily basis, though. I only try to communicate if I feel a presence in my house or if I'm investigating a suspected haunted location. And lastly, I'm sure you're aware that you will encounter naysayers when you share your stories, but I strongly advise you to be cautious and discerning when conversing with them. And remember that just because these people believe something to be true about the Bible doesn't automatically mean that you should believe it too.

You can make up your own mind on what you believe is true. I learned that lesson fairly quickly after I started to share that I'm a Sensitive and I have the ability to see spirits, feel the presence of spirits, and hear the disembodied voices of spirits. I guarantee you that it isn't popular among a lot of Christians. It's okay to set boundaries for yourself with Christians like these, or with other people who continue to criticize you. I've had to set boundaries with Christians who rudely criticize me for my special abilities, and because I research and investigate the paranormal. It's none of their concern. Finally, I'd like to encourage you to keep sharing your stories.

You can PM me anytime. I'll listen to you and I won't judge you.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Last night in my sleep I was tortured by something resembling the head of a dog, sinking it's fangs in my flesh, and I felt my brain leaping around in my skull (which reminded me of John the Baptist leaping in Elizabeth
's womb) , and I knew I was dreaming, trying to awake, and somewhere in the dream, I was asking the exorcist from the Diocese of Helena (who I used to meet with) for an exorcism!

I tried my greatest to wake up from the dream, knowing well aware it was a dream, but while regaining consciousness, I could still feel teeth marks in my flesh!

I jumped out of bed when I could, to go use the restroom, and my roommate immediately jumped out of bed shrieking like he had a malevolent Spirit too!

I don't get frightened by hardly anything these days (I mean, being a lover and handler of spiders , which were my greatest phobia, taught me love and embrace fear) but the experience was disturbing and mildly traumatic, especially the way my roommate jumped out of bed shrieking like he was haunted by some diabolical entity right after awaking from it.

I'm well aware that Psychosis and mental illness is a thing, but no antipsychotics or medication would help stop this (and other manifestations I have experienced).

Also, mental illness and psychosis has a much different feeling to it, different symptoms, and it seemed like the person in my room was afflicted by the same attack or something, which also gives suspicion something more than a nightmare was taking place.

I was also tossing and turning in my bed , well aware it was a dream, trying to awaken. Because I wasn't conscious, I was even aware while unconscious , that I was going to be far less vulnerable to the attack when awake. (Scripture gives many examples of spirits, Angels, or God influencing people more when they are unconscious! The same is true of enemy spirits).

Also, I find that there are things which have been mentioned countless times at RF, following inner locutions of Spiritual influence, that sometimes eliminate the possibility of mental health conditions and psychosis alone (for such an experience).

Plus, I think mental illness and psychosis can be a direct cause of Spiritual influence or entities, or leave a person more vulnerable to them, so it can be a complex combination and mix of both.

I don't think modern Psychiatry or medication is treating the whole person. That is not to say a seasoned exorcist is usually the answer to such afflictions.

But I fear, in an age where we no longer believe much in spiritual entities influencing us, it can empower and make such malevolent spirits more rampant in the destruction they cause, and their influence over us.

The lack of faith in such entities influencing us , is a rather recent "Johnny Come Lately" for humanity, in that it dismisses an extremely common conviction that was believed by the vast majority of people, regardless of whether they be primitive faiths, pagans, Hindus, Shamans, Shinto, Christians, Muslims, Pantheists, Taoists, Jews, and beyond, so our "enlightened age" might not be as "enlightened" as we think, and causing mental illness, suicide, break up of families, school shootings, and all sorts of crime to increase!

It seems to be one of the "Errors of Russia" that Mary warned at Fatima would spread throughout the world!

It didn't seem to be a strong or so common a belief that Spiritual entities rarely cause mental or emotional problems, (or never cause them at all) prior to the rise of Communism and it's spread!

I'm not promoting Christianity so much (as I don't qualify as Christian) , but as America grows more and more fond on average of secularization of everything, the crime rate has gone way up, we didn't used to have these school shootings and random shootings, homicide gone way up, unwanted pregnancies, (sexual transmitted diseases allegedly will afflict one in five Americans. Myself experienced curable ones, but for many there is no cure), the amount of people harmed through sexual vices, drug addiction gone way up, division, fatherless children, and America has become extremely heavily medicated on Psychotropic drugs.

The list of disorders that have increased with our "Enlightenment", sexual revolutions, secularization of everything, and moral relativism, goes on, to the point it isn't enlightenment or liberation, but weakening society and enslaving us to vice (from what the evidence shows).

Mockery of morality, faith, noble mindedness, wisdom, and prudence, and glorification of immorality in the media and entertainment industry does indeed create vicious hearts, which I experienced first-hand!

Most people can probably have offensive, immoral, violent music playing, and it doesn't make them bad, or watch it glorified on videos, or from peers, or view hardcore porn without it causing severe corruption, but that wasn't my experience as a child.

What I was listening to, the blatant wickedness glorified, and the virtues I saw mocked in the media and entertainment, made me actually intentionally want to remove every ounce of human decency from my mind, heart, and soul, fueled a hatred for God, Religion, purity, innocence, nobility, chivalry, and other high moral standards, and choosing the opposite!

I'm sure that isn't what happens as a general rule, but to a lesser extreme degree, a toxic effect, especially on young developing minds, is going to take place, which will weaken society, relationships, and break up the nuclear family, create bad habits, send harmful messages to the subconscious, condition a person to be more selfish and less considerate to others.

At any rate, your thoughts are appreciated, and have you ever thought or felt like a Spiritual entity was attacking you?

I think you better get right with Jesus.
Yes I've been attacked. They are real and only the blood of Christ can cover and protect you from them.

 

[Aštra’el]

At any rate, your thoughts are appreciated, and have you ever thought or felt like a Spiritual entity was attacking you?

“Attacked”, maybe. Is letting a succubus take the wheel for a night something you would consider an “attack”?

I don’t usually talk about this, but what the hell. There were many, many nights I offered by body up as a temporary vessel for a certain demon goddess to enjoy the world. L***** E**š*****. It was a way of bonding in those times, not so long ago. I never perceived them as “attacks” because it was empowering, and symbiotic, as we both got something out of it. I got pleasure, excitement, and a crazy night out... and she got sexual energy, and an opportunity to be free to roam this world and party to her hearts content. It was like... being piloted by a completely different personality. I’d close my eyes, breathe in deeply and when I slowly opened my eyes again instantly “I” was someone else, as if her and I were merged, free of the obligations of life and with none of the usual thoughts distracting me. All chains cast aside. No fear. No shame. And the things we’d do, the people we’d meet, the places we’d go when going out, well... let’s just say that few things can compare to the adrenaline rush, the euphoria, and the pleasure.

Looking back... I can see how the technique I was utilizing became a creative method of exploring certain taboo sides of my own human nature. It was never just that though. It was so much more. A connection was forged with one of my gods who helped me realize so many fantasies, gave me one hell of a nightlife, and who helped me accept and appreciate certain aspects of who I am. I no longer feel shame or regret, over anything then or now. But those nights. The nights were like... being pulled through the most alluring dark vortex, and going on the craziest trip... with a warm, psychedelic storm of vivid colors swirling around me, forming nameless faces, and bodies, reaching out and beckoning, all while experiencing a blissful, dreamlike state of absolute euphoria.

Some music brings the memories flooding back... and it’s like I’m back in that vortex, being pulled through time and space-

God I was a ****ing demon. I miss the chaos... but for now I have my priorities. That lifestyle is incompatible with what I got going now. But... who knows what the future holds.

...Some things never die.

 

[stevecanuck]

I have never been attacked by a demon. I suspect it's because I don't believe in such things.