Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Would you say the same about the rich? Jesus did, quite often.
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? Everyone is Equal ?
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Would you say the same about the rich? Jesus did, quite often.
How do you know that? How can you judge the heart of another? How can you know what's in their hearts? Has God made you the judge of all the world?
What makes you the judge of your brother or your sister? When did God give you the right to judge the living and the dead?
Everyone is not equal. For us to all be equal, we would have to reduce everyone to the lowest common denominator.
Not everyone can fly a plane.
Not everyone can walk into an operating room and perform a life saving surgery.
Not everyone can erect a building.
Not everyone can dance or play an instrument.
Not everyone can fly a plane.
Not everyone can walk into an operating room and perform a life saving surgery.
Not everyone can erect a building.
Not everyone can dance or play an instrument.
Not the same kind of equality.
We are talking about a fundamental level. Things like equality in the law, equal rights, equally sinfull etc
F0uad
Well-Known Member
Wrong they are equal, its just a sin in some religions all sins get punished.
I thought sins were to be forgiven,
Yes, but the question is the same unless your saying "should we" or "are we".
The OP said "are we" so the answer is still no, we are not equal.
dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
We are all made of the same stuff, we are all of the same substance. Man makes distinctions, and this is why we see people as different. Our underlying source is the same. Our basic nature is the same. We are not even independent from other people. So why create distinction? Why see differences when there are none?
arhys
Member
No, no He doesn't - unless you're thinking of the God liberals have created in their own image.
Blackdog22
Well-Known Member
Id argue that gays getting stoned to death for thousands of years vs David (from Psalms) killing a man so he could have sex with his wife and getting a slap on the wrist to be unequal.
dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
Man created god, so that god could create man, as the saying goes. "God" is simply a construct of the human mind, an abstract (and illusory) manifestation of the underlying divine essence that is the basis and root of all things. God, as understood by a majority of theists, is an anthropomorphized externalization of the actual divine essence, which has no shape or form, and is not external to anything. If liberals have created a god "in their own image", they were just taking their cue from thousands of years of religions and "prophets" doing just that.
We are all equally human.
Tell that to the GLBT folks who cannot get married.
Tell that to a poor person who lost a lawsuit against a rich person.
Tell that to a poor innocent man in prison.
Tell that to a crack baby.
If they "should" be equal, I'm with you, but that is not what the OP is asking now is it? :no:
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Where is the meaningfulness in this statement? Being genetically homo sapiens means very little when some may be born to poverty or riches, genius or retardation, blind, mute, or even paralyzed. Some more than one. Some all of them combined.
I don't see how there is value is saying we're all human.
I conced to your point,
Do we all have equal value/
I would hope so, but in a world view, children are dieing because of neonatal tetanus or lack of clean drinking water while we worry about cheer leading outfits or band instruments here in our world.
I guess it depends on who is placing the value.
I hope I am not being too harsh iti, I just don't see the world through Utopian rose colored glasses.
Let me ask you a question and it ties into what you are asking. If you had a billion dollars and could assist people attending college or give every child on the planet clean drinking water which would you do?
Now you have to value these lives.
Would you give up free health care to give these kids water?
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
No. Not in intelligence, not in money, not in friends, not in benefits, not in opportunities...etc etc etc.
I mean, unless you'd be conflicted about whether to save Hitler or a starving African child.
I think those are both false dilemmas.
If we increase access to education, we're increasing the chances that we'll produce another Norman Borlaug who will revolutionize the world in some way and save a billion lives in the process. It's happened before and it can happen again.
And as for health care... keeping your work force healthy maximizes their ability to produce wealth, both for themselves and for their employers and employers' investors. This wealth can be used for all sorts of things, including helping disadvantaged people in other parts of the world.
OTOH, if we let someone go untreated when they have a chronic condition that makes them unable to work, then this represents (among other things) wealth that's just being thrown away and is no longer available for any good cause.
Am I the only one who sees any hypocrisy here?
The rich say let the working class eat cake.
The working class wants the rich to pay for health care and education of others.
These socialists attitudes on the surface seem reasonable until we realise, to many people around the world, our least advantaged members of society are rich by their standards.
We flush our toilets with clean water while they have none.
Should we not give everyone on the planet clean water first and foremost or should they just eat cake as well?
The rich say let the working class eat cake.
The working class wants the rich to pay for health care and education of others.
These socialists attitudes on the surface seem reasonable until we realise, to many people around the world, our least advantaged members of society are rich by their standards.
We flush our toilets with clean water while they have none.
Should we not give everyone on the planet clean water first and foremost or should they just eat cake as well?