Evidence God does not want all people to have the same religion

[Spirit of Light]

That applies to those before the time of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ).

Surat Al-imraan, ayah 85 "And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers."

(3:84) Say: 'We believe in Allah and what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and to Issac and Jacob and his descendents, and the teachings which Allah gave to Moses and Jesus and to other Prophets. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit.

 

[Shakeel]

Which people?

Surah Al-Ma'idah - 5:69 is evidence that non-muslim can also go to heaven

These people

Some of the Abrahamic religions say "We are the only true religion". Many christians say "jesus is the only way to be saved", and many muslims say "only muslims go to heaven"

That was before the prophet Muhammad (ﷺ).

 

[Starlight]

That applies to those before the time of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ).

Surat Al-imraan, ayah 85 "And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers."

In islam the Quran is the divine book from God. Hadiths is written by man two hundred years after prophet Muhammad died. The Quran is more important than hadith.
A hadith can not interpret what the meaning of the Quran is. Only hadiths that is the same message as the Quran is correct. Hadiths that goes against the Quran is not correct.

In islam the Quran is 100% correct.
Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim is not 100% correct.

 

[Shakeel]

(3:84) Say: 'We believe in Allah and what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and to Issac and Jacob and his descendents, and the teachings which Allah gave to Moses and Jesus and to other Prophets. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit.

Yes, but Islam has abrogated those religions previously revealed by Allah.

 

[Shakeel]

The Quran is the divine book from God. Hadiths is written by man two hundred years after prophet Muhammad died. The Quran is more important than hadith.
A hadith can not interpret what the meaning of the Quran is. Only hadiths that is the same message as the Quran is correct. Hadiths that goes against the Quran is not correct.

The Quran is 100% correct.
Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim is not 100% correct.

Many hadiths were written down during the life of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). The hadith do interpret what the Qur'an says. Who is better to interpret the Qur'an than the Prophet (ﷺ) it was revealed to?

 

[firedragon]

Some of the Abrahamic religions say "We are the only true religion". Many christians say "jesus is the only way to be saved", and many muslims say "only muslims go to heaven". This is false. The evidence is from the Bible itself.

Interesting. Lets take the Qur'an since it is the Muslims holy scripture (you probably dont believe so but it doesnt matter), and it is the criterion, furqan or in easy terms "the yardstick". In this book can you quote a verse that says "only muslims go to heaven"?

Let me quote a verse that contradicts what you say above and maybe you could quote a verse that provides evidence to your claim that "only muslims go to heaven".

This verse below is speaking about the people of the book.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Yes, but Islam has abrogated those religions previously revealed by Allah.

That does not mean a muslim should not respect those people who still chose to follow Jewish or Christian faith. It does not mean a muslim (sufi anyway) can not have very good discussion with Jews or Christians.

But if you feel it is wrong that is your own understanding and opinion. You are free to believe the way you do.

 

[Starlight]

These people
That was before the prophet Muhammad (ﷺ).

Why do you believe in Hadiths more than the Quran?

 

[Starlight]

Yes, but Islam has abrogated those religions previously revealed by Allah.

No thats not true. In islam the Quran is the directly from God. The hadiths is not.

 

[Starlight]

Interesting. Lets take the Qur'an since it is the Muslims holy scripture (you probably dont believe so but it doesnt matter), and it is the criterion, furqan or in easy terms "the yardstick". In this book can you quote a verse that says "only muslims go to heaven"?

Let me quote a verse that contradicts what you say above and maybe you could quote a verse that provides evidence to your claim that "only muslims go to heaven".

This verse below is speaking about the people of the book.

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I wrote many muslims believe "only muslims go to heaven". It did not wrote that all muslims believe it.

 

[1213]

God does not want all people in the world to have the same religion:

The tower of Babel...
Some of the Abrahamic religions say "We are the only true religion". Many christians say "jesus is the only way to be saved", and many muslims say "only muslims go to heaven". This is false. The evidence is from the Bible itself.

But, that doesn’t say anything about religion. Perhaps God doesn’t want religions at all, only people who are loyal/faithful to Him. That is possible, even without same language.

 

[Starlight]

Evidence number 2 that non-muslim can go to heaven:

Surah Ali 'Imran - 3:199
And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), those who believe in Allah and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before Allah. They do not sell the Verses of Allah for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, Allah is Swift in account.

 

[firedragon]

I wrote many muslims believe "only muslims go to heaven". It did not wrote that all muslims believe it.

No no. I respect your statement.

I am referring to scripture.

 

[Starlight]

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[stvdv]

Some of the Abrahamic religions say "We are the only true religion". Many christians say "jesus is the only way to be saved", and many muslims say "only muslims go to heaven". This is false. The evidence is from the Bible itself.

I like your OP, thanks

I fully agree

And I found in the Koran also a verse that literally states that its God who Willed all of this (different religions)

Hence if people judge other faiths seems to me that they judge God

 

[Shakeel]

No thats not true. In islam the Quran is the directly from God. The hadiths is not.

The Qur'an says those religions no longer suffice as I quoted earlier and the authentic ahadith are part of the revelation. The Qur'an also says in Surat al-Najm, ayah 3 and 4 "Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination. It is not but a revelation revealed,"

And in Surat al-Nahl, ayah 44 "With clear arguments and scriptures; and We have revealed to you the Reminder that you may make clear to men what has been revealed to them, and that haply they may reflect."

 

[Brian2]

God does not want all people in the world to have the same religion:

The tower of Babel
11Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. 2 As people moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there.

3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

8 So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. 9 That is why it was called Babel—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.

Some of the Abrahamic religions say "We are the only true religion". Many christians say "jesus is the only way to be saved", and many muslims say "only muslims go to heaven". This is false. The evidence is from the Bible itself.

There is only one truth however.

 

[Pete in Panama]

May it be that there are multiple religions because human beings around the world is so different? may it be that God see that not all humans will or can follow only one teaching, so there is different paths leading toward the same answer in the end?

I agree with that!

Can we also consider the idea that all these different religions may represent not different religions w/ different gods, but rather be the result of our inherent diversity bringing out different denominations of one basic religion and one God.

Let's remember the fact that Abraham was raised and came to differ w/ an area that was descended from Hindus from which came Buddhism. We may want to consider the idea that these --along with the "Abrahamic" religions-- are one from a proto-Abrahamic belief source.

iow, we're not talking different religions, we're seeing varieties of one religion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Can we also consider the idea that all these different religions may represent not different religions w/ different gods, but rather be the result of our inherent diversity bringing out different denominations of one basic religion and one God.

Let's remember the fact that Abraham was raised and came to differ w/ an area that was descended from Hindus from which came Buddhism. We may want to consider the idea that these --along with the "Abrahamic" religions-- are one from a proto-Abrahamic belief source.

iow, we're not talking different religions, we're seeing varieties of one religion.

Outward it is different religions, but inward we all seeking the same thing. The highest truth we can realize through the practice (in my understanding)

 

[Niblo]

Following.