evolution in the bible

[syo]

isn't evolution in the bible? adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit and evolved in another state than they were originaly. doesn't the bible clearly say they evolved?

 

[Darkstorn]

isn't evolution in the bible? adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit and evolved in another state than they were originaly. doesn't the bible clearly say they evolved?

I'm not sure you understand what evolution means.

 

[syo]

I'm not sure you understand what evolution means.

the story isn't to be taken literally. it describes in a mythological tale the evolution of humans.

 

[Darkstorn]

the story isn't to be taken literally. it describes in a mythological tale the evolution of humans.

Yes, but normally evolution doesn't involve magical fruit.

 

[syo]

Yes, but normally evolution doesn't involve magical fruit.

it means they evolved because they change their diet. they ate something of not the ordinary.

 

[Darkstorn]

it means they evolved because they change their diet. they ate something of not the ordinary.

Evolution also doesn't happen to individuals, but to populations. So what you're describing still doesn't actually resemble evolution, but a straw man version of it.

 

[syo]

Evolution also doesn't happen to individuals, but to populations. So what you're describing still doesn't actually resemble evolution, but a straw man version of it.

but not only adam and eve evolved but their children too and all the animals.

 

[Darkstorn]

but not only adam and eve evolved but their children too and all the animals.

Even if that's true(it's still part of a mythological story) it wasn't due to them eating a magical fruit. I repeat my original claim: I don't think you understand what evolution means.

 

[syo]

Even if that's true(it's still part of a mythological story) it wasn't due to them eating a magical fruit. I repeat my original claim: I don't think you understand what evolution means.

i think the fruit is important. what we eat defines us.

 

[Darkstorn]

i think the fruit is important.

That's because you don't understand evolution. We already established that individuals don't evolve, populations do. So how does an individual eating a single apple have anything to do with evolution? Please do explain.

what we eat defines us.

That is not an universal fact. I say our actions define us. And even my view of that is subjective.

 

[syo]

That's because you don't understand evolution. We already established that individuals don't evolve, populations do. So how does an individual eating a single apple have anything to do with evolution? Please do explain.



That is not an universal fact. I say our actions define us. And even my view of that is subjective.

population is the sum of individuals and adam and eve are the very first of the many. and dietary is important, more important than what we may think. what we eat enters our bodies and changes it.

 

[Darkstorn]

population is the sum of individuals and adam and eve are the very first of the many.

According to a mythological story. You cannot treat this as a scientific theory, and trying to shoehorn evolution into this explanation is just... Wrong. Not to mention it takes generations. You're proposing that it happens instantly in a single generation.

Just no.

and dietary is important, more important than what we may think.

Maybe more important than what you may think.

But imaginary magical fruit don't actually do anything dietary wise.

what we eat enters our bodies and changes it.

It really isn't this simple.

 

[RoaringSilence]

Evolution also doesn't happen to individuals, but to populations. So what you're describing still doesn't actually resemble evolution, but a straw man version of it.

i think he has a point , since the total population of Eden garden was 4 if we include the snake.

 

[Darkstorn]

i think he has a point , since the total population of Eden garden was 4 if we include the snake.

Why would we include the snake? I don't think you understand how evolution works.

 

[syo]

i think you take the story of eden too literaly and not symbolic.

 

[RoaringSilence]

Why would we include the snake? I don't think you understand how evolution works.

it was a talking snake , so the snake de evolved if thats even a word

 

[Darkstorn]

it was a talking snake , so the snake de evolved if thats even a word

Gotcha.

i think you take the story of eden too literaly and not symbolic.

Problem: Evolution isn't exactly symbolic. So i think it's your mistake in thinking symbolic + literal should mix to begin with.

Not to mention this is the Evolution vs Creationism forum. Creationism is NOT symbolic. It's literal.

 

[RoaringSilence]

i think you take the story of eden too literaly and not symbolic.

i totally understand where you are coming from , but honestly that wasn't the message in any way.

 

[RoaringSilence]

Gotcha.



Problem: Evolution isn't exactly symbolic. So i think it's your mistake in thinking symbolic + literal should mix to begin with.

Not to mention this is the Evolution vs Creationism forum. Creationism is NOT symbolic. It's literal.

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[syo]

Not to mention this is the Evolution vs Creationism forum. Creationism is NOT symbolic. It's literal.

i view creationism as symbolic.