Evolution, maybe someone can explain?

[Pogo]

And how ironic that shouting any word will cause a hurricane in Florida. The specific word will even affect the details of the storm.

But it won't affect the current price of tea in China. And no word is worth a single bean in a hill of beans. But all I get are word games.

How Ironic that while the human production of a word in Florida will possibly have as little effect on air currents in the world as a butterfly in China, that same "tariff" could still have an effect on the price of tea in China.

Any time you actually want to justify your expectorations in a manner that others might understand, the real world is out there.

 

[Pogo]

My view now, after learning and thinking about, though entirely radical, is based on science and educated guessing.

The Quantum Field composes consciousness so it's likely everything is conscious to some extent. So genes from, what we'll reduce to, rocks were produced by the reality. The ocean is doing the wave, not the wave the ocean.

Which what quantum field is this? Or is this for @cladking only?

 

[cladking]

An earthworm is as fit as a Robin, what does this even mean?

This might surprise you even though I've said it so many times but an earthworm is an earthworm except there's no such thing as an "earthworm". All life is individual so everything we call an "earthworm" actually lies on many continua of "Earthworm". Some earthworms can be more like cats on some continuum. But they are all anointed; equally likely to be selected by nature. And they are all fit; equally likely not to be denied survival.

Is there one word that you haven't followed so far. Please say so if there is. I'm going to go on but we can return iff necessary.

All robins are robins as well to the degree that there is a referent in reality to the word "robin". These also are equally anointed and equally individual.

And anointed robins eat anointed earthworms. This is the nature of reality as it affects living things. But no given robin will eat any given earthworm. There are robins that don't like anointed earthworms so eat things like anointed bugs and anointed seeds instead. These oddballs do this for individual reasons. There are thousands of reasons they do it but they have much more in common genetically than they do with other robins. When nature "decides" to have a mass dieoff and only the oddball robins survive they still have different genes than those which died. "Different genes" is EXACTLY what distinguishes and earthworm from a robin. Why would these creatures with different genes produce "robins". They might have more in common with swallows and their offspring might be called "roblows". It doesn't matter what you call them because words don't matter. Reality is not open to voting by Peers. It doesn't care what you believe. It doesn't care how you interpret an experiment.

 

[cladking]

How Ironic that while the human production of a word in Florida will possibly have as little effect on air currents in the world as a butterfly in China, that same "tariff" could still have an effect on the price of tea in China.

Well... ...that actually made sense assuming that "same" was just a typo and you meant "some".

Good work!

 

[Pogo]

Why would these creatures with different genes produce "robins". They might have more in common with swallows and their offspring might be called "roblows"

Nuff said, you are here denying knowledge of pretty much every bit of knowledge gained in the 50-75 years. Until you can tell us why that which we have learned about the differences in DNA between an earthworm and a bird nevermind between robins and sparrows comport with some idea of yours, you have no place in a conversation of biology of life even assuming we grant you a magic man.

We are waiting without bated breath.

 

[cladking]

I had numerous similar work experiences. Except in my case I was often brutalized by the number crunchers who didn't care about what worked and often wouldn't even try things I "knew" would work.

In one instance I drew up plans that would prevent a disaster that occurred with some regularity when specific conditions arose that happened about 70 times per year. It would cost less than $20,000 to install it as I designed. There were several consequences that were predictable and they were all beneficial. The system was designed so it could be turned off. $20,000 was a small fraction of the costs involved in every disaster. I was presented with a bunch of equations that they claimed represented the reality and was told they showed there would be no positive change in reducing the odds of chaos. I seriously doubt there is enough known to predict something so complex but I couldn't follow all the equations, never could have, so I don't know. I do know I use the knowledge frequently in real life with at least some success.

Today even cosmology has been overrun by mathematicians. They each believe all of reality will someday be reduced to some simple and elegant equation. I know it never will because as a metaphysician I know that math follows reality or in my terms math can only reflect the same logic as reality. Reality is far too complex to be symbolized by any equation other than, perhaps 0 = 0 with the first corollary being sometimes 1 = 1.

But what do I know besides. I didn't even know there were an infinite number of pyramids built with an infinite number of ramps and no pyramids built with no ramps. I guess it's kind of poetic if Infinity = 1. 1 = 1 and 0 = 0, they just got it backward a little.

 

[Pogo]

In one instance I drew up plans that would prevent a disaster that occurred with some regularity when specific conditions arose that happened about 70 times per year. It would cost less than $20,000 to install it as I designed.

What you mean you used statistics to come to a conclusion. Say it ain't so.



Or does statistics just mean that you didn't agree with someone else's analysis of your "experiments" or their rigor?

 

[cladking]

No. It means that a simple common sense solution to a serious ongoing problem might have been available for only $20,000. In the unlikely event of unforeseen consequences the system could have been shut down easily. The expertise to do the job was available inhouse so the money would just be transferred from one pocket to another. Materiel costs were just a few thousand.

With the benefit of hindsight I can see one unforeseen consequence that might be catching up with them right about now. This could involve substantial costs. In the real world nothing is simple and the improvement in safety alone might be sufficient to pay for this specific unforeseen consequence.