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Another dodge, just as I expected. Well Kenny, you've once again confirmed my impressions of fundamentalist Christians. And I suppose since I'll just give up here and not waste any more of my time chasing another one of y'all around, trying to get you to answer basic questions, you'll be patting yourself on the back, congratulating yourself on fending off another non-believer.
Won't say a major factor but its one of many for me.
I've told this story several times, so I'll keep it short.
I've heard similar sroriesI've told this story several times, so I'll keep it short.
I was a very inquisitive kid, the kind who constantly asked questions and gobbled up whatever info people gave me in response. Our church really, really didn't like that. I still remember being about 8 or 9 years old and while I was coloring a picture of Noah's ark, I asked our Sunday School teacher how the people who wrote the Bible knew the entire earth was flooded, since they didn't know that North and South America even existed. Keep in mind, I didn't ask questions in an attempt to argue or debate, I really was just curious and wanted to know. I guess that was the final straw for our church leaders, because they kept my mom after church and told her that I asked too many questions and she needed to teach me what it meant to have faith. To her credit, my mom told them I was a very curious little boy and she wasn't about to squash that.
As I grew older I started asking more, and better questions, and I quickly noticed that most of the time their reactions were like Kenny's here....dodge and avoid. When I turned 15, my parents allowed me to choose for myself whether to attend church. I chose not to. When my mom asked why, I was pretty blunt and told her that none of it made sense to me and it felt like whenever I asked questions to try and understand, the people at the church couldn't explain and acted like merely asking questions was a terrible thing. So if that's what the faith is, it wasn't for me.
Of course I'm simplifying a bit here, but hopefully you get the gist. When people ask why I'm not Christian, I tell them that it makes no sense to me, and no matter who I asked or what I read, it never did.
I've told this story several times, so I'll keep it short.
I was a very inquisitive kid, the kind who constantly asked questions and gobbled up whatever info people gave me in response. Our church really, really didn't like that. I still remember being about 8 or 9 years old and while I was coloring a picture of Noah's ark, I asked our Sunday School teacher how the people who wrote the Bible knew the entire earth was flooded, since they didn't know that North and South America even existed. Keep in mind, I didn't ask questions in an attempt to argue or debate, I really was just curious and wanted to know. I guess that was the final straw for our church leaders, because they kept my mom after church and told her that I asked too many questions and she needed to teach me what it meant to have faith. To her credit, my mom told them I was a very curious little boy and she wasn't about to squash that.
As I grew older I started asking more, and better questions, and I quickly noticed that most of the time their reactions were like Kenny's here....dodge and avoid. When I turned 15, my parents allowed me to choose for myself whether to attend church. I chose not to. When my mom asked why, I was pretty blunt and told her that none of it made sense to me and it felt like whenever I asked questions to try and understand, the people at the church couldn't explain and acted like merely asking questions was a terrible thing. So if that's what the faith is, it wasn't for me.
Of course I'm simplifying a bit here, but hopefully you get the gist. When people ask why I'm not Christian, I tell them that it makes no sense to me, and no matter who I asked or what I read, it never did.
That's really interesting. Thanks for sharing!
I love how you use broad brushes over nothing.
Are you suggesting that “ideas” (or even “patterns of thinking”) are transmitted genetically? This would represent an extremely bold statement.
Not a dodge at all. You simply “want” to view things in a way so that you can blame it on “fundamental Christians”. I am simply trying to make you think through the issue deeply.
Evolutionary theory contradicts biblical creationism but shouldn't be an issue for other kinds of theists.
Hmm. Good thought. But I would like to point out a few missing links in your thesis. Let me take a methodological approach and no offense intended.
I believe it isn't a question of like but of how much evil God will allow. It isn't a people group because His favored people caught His wrath when they became evil themselves.
I believe God said that He created everything. However it appears He did it transitionally since it wasn't all done in one day. It is possible for God to metamorphose things. I suspect with humanoids it is simply God liking variety.
I believe there are differences. We use the word human to mean all hominids but the Greek mythology says it was the gods who first created humans and I believe they are referring to Adam and Eve who are clones and not the first hominids. God created man and woman but that could be any kind of hominid since there is no description. God does not say that the man and woman evolved from anything.
Even for me it is not the first time to see this kind of statements.Is it because your questions were probably honest and yet not answered?I've told this story several times, so I'll keep it short.
I was a very inquisitive kid, the kind who constantly asked questions and gobbled up whatever info people gave me in response. Our church really, really didn't like that. I still remember being about 8 or 9 years old and while I was coloring a picture of Noah's ark, I asked our Sunday School teacher how the people who wrote the Bible knew the entire earth was flooded, since they didn't know that North and South America even existed. Keep in mind, I didn't ask questions in an attempt to argue or debate, I really was just curious and wanted to know. I guess that was the final straw for our church leaders, because they kept my mom after church and told her that I asked too many questions and she needed to teach me what it meant to have faith. To her credit, my mom told them I was a very curious little boy and she wasn't about to squash that.
As I grew older I started asking more, and better questions, and I quickly noticed that most of the time their reactions were like Kenny's here....dodge and avoid. When I turned 15, my parents allowed me to choose for myself whether to attend church. I chose not to. When my mom asked why, I was pretty blunt and told her that none of it made sense to me and it felt like whenever I asked questions to try and understand, the people at the church couldn't explain and acted like merely asking questions was a terrible thing. So if that's what the faith is, it wasn't for me.
Of course I'm simplifying a bit here, but hopefully you get the gist. When people ask why I'm not Christian, I tell them that it makes no sense to me, and no matter who I asked or what I read, it never did.
What I see from christians- most of them being cretionists-