AndromedaRXJ
Active Member
Can't you just say yes or no?
Do you disagree that we are mammals, tetrapods or vertebrates?
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Evolution of Human
- Thread starter FearGod
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Can't you just say yes or no?
Do you disagree that we are mammals, tetrapods or vertebrates?
Apes are not dogs.But apes.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Can't you just say yes or no?
Do you disagree that we are mammals, tetrapods or vertebrates?
:biglaugh:
Yes or No
No we aren't mammals but are classified as mammals.
AndromedaRXJ
Active Member
:biglaugh:
Yes or No
No we aren't mammals but are classified as mammals.
So you don't agree that we're mammals?
What about tetrapods or vertebrates?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
You do realize that "humans" is a group, right?
Sapiens
Polymathematician
Kingdom Animalia – Animal, animaux, animals
Subkingdom Bilateria
Infrakingdom Deuterostomia
Phylum Chordata – cordés, cordado, chordates
Subphylum Vertebrata – vertebrado, vertébrés, vertebrates
Infraphylum Gnathostomata
Superclass Tetrapoda
Class Mammalia Linnaeus, 1758 – mammifères, mamífero, mammals
Subclass Theria Parker and Haswell, 1897
Infraclass Eutheria Gill, 1872
Order Primates Linnaeus, 1758 – homem, macaco, primata, sagui, primates, primates
Suborder Haplorrhini Pocock, 1918
Infraorder Simiiformes Haeckel, 1866
Superfamily Hominoidea Gray, 1825
Family Hominidae Gray, 1825 – man-like primates, Great Apes
Subfamily Homininae Gray, 1825 – African apes
Genus Homo Linnaeus, 1758 – hominoids
Species Homo sapiens Linnaeus, 1758 – man, Humans, Human
Subkingdom Bilateria
Infrakingdom Deuterostomia
Phylum Chordata – cordés, cordado, chordates
Subphylum Vertebrata – vertebrado, vertébrés, vertebrates
Infraphylum Gnathostomata
Superclass Tetrapoda
Class Mammalia Linnaeus, 1758 – mammifères, mamífero, mammals
Subclass Theria Parker and Haswell, 1897
Infraclass Eutheria Gill, 1872
Order Primates Linnaeus, 1758 – homem, macaco, primata, sagui, primates, primates
Suborder Haplorrhini Pocock, 1918
Infraorder Simiiformes Haeckel, 1866
Superfamily Hominoidea Gray, 1825
Family Hominidae Gray, 1825 – man-like primates, Great Apes
Subfamily Homininae Gray, 1825 – African apes
Genus Homo Linnaeus, 1758 – hominoids
Species Homo sapiens Linnaeus, 1758 – man, Humans, Human
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FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Group of what ?
Apes are represented by the superfamily hominoidea. Homo sapiens is in that superfamily. Taxonomically, we are apes. Chimpanzees are more closely related to humans genetically than they are to gorillas. So if gorillas and chimps are both apes, humans would have to be apes too (unless, of course, one was to argue that chimps are not apes). It's not like it matters that much. Ape is just a label used for biological classification. It doesn't change what we are or are not.
I'm curious, do you deny that we have a backbone? Would that not make us vertebrates?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Yes i agree that atheists believe that they are apes but creationists including me don't agree that they are apes but humans.
Theistic evolutionists believe we are apes too (well, at least some of us do). It's not an atheist thing. If we are not apes, then to what superfamily do we belong? You also didn't answer my question about us being vertebrates. Also, do you accept that humans are multicellular? Do you accept that we are eukaryotes?Yes i agree that atheists believe that they are apes but creationists including me don't agree that they are apes but humans.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Being classified as vertebrate doesn't mean that you and the dog are one.
This is the second time you've said that. Not a single person here has claimed that humans are dogs and you know it.
So you do agree that we are vertebrates?
psychoslice
Veteran Member
I think it was evolving right from the start, we cannot take one part out without losing all, it all worked together to bring us where we are now, if that a good thing or not I don't really know.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
And we were talking about apes and you brought vertebrates to the discussion,
And i brought the dog as a member of the vertebrates.
Because I'm trying to see if you accept any of the biological classification given to humans. Saying that two species are both vertebrates is not the same as saying they are both the same thing. Both scarlet kingsnakes and Siberian tigers are vertebrates but nobody would argue that they are the same thing just because they both have backbones.
Sapiens
Polymathematician
It is not a question of atheists and religionists, nor is it a matter of belief; and indeed we are all humans, one species from among the great apes. Of that there is not question, this is confirmed by many, many independent methodologies.Yes i agree that atheists believe that they are apes but creationists including me don't agree that they are apes but humans.
