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Evolution of Human

Thief

Rogue Theologian
ok...ok....ok...
We share a lot of DNA with lesser forms.

Are we really going to be stubborn about it?

We are in a sub category of religious debate.
Consider standing before heaven and making excuses....
'Sorry about that...I'm just a stupid ape!'
 

McBell

Unbound
The other people also need to know it means that.
true.
What evidence you have they didn't?

It could also mean "this belongs to me". It could also be wear the person rested their hand and have no meaning at all.
Also true.
Thing is, how will we ever know?

For a symbol to be used as communication it needs to have an agreed upon meaning.
An agreed upon meaning would make communication much easier, but as can be seen in todays world, it is not as much a requirement as you seem to be implying here.

It also needs to be readily differentiable from other peoples hands.
Why?

If you walk into a cave and see a hand print and you know you did not leave it, what do you think you will assume of said hand print you did not leave?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
ok...ok....ok...
We share a lot of DNA with lesser forms.

Are we really going to be stubborn about it?

We are in a sub category of religious debate.
Consider standing before heaven and making excuses....
'Sorry about that...I'm just a stupid ape!'
Making excuses for what?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
fantôme profane;3879246 said:
Making excuses for what?

No one leaves this world without a chalk mark of indiscretion.
Would wish a clean slate for everyone....but....you know....
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
No one leaves this world without a chalk mark of indiscretion.
Would wish a clean slate for everyone....but....you know....
What does have to so with our biological classification as an Ape? Or what does it have to do with evolution in general?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
fantôme profane;3879252 said:
What does have to so with our biological classification as an Ape? Or what does it have to do with evolution in general?

I believe the form can be overcome.
We might be chemistry as we look in the mirror.
Can't say we are not.

But the chemistry will fail
I believe the spirit we become can also fail...but it doesn't have to.

Still...as we stand from the dead and dying meat.....
heaven might not allow any continuance.

If we behave like animals and strive nothing more.....
why allow such a thing into heaven?

Walk among angels without grace?.....I think not.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I believe the form can be overcome.
We might be chemistry as we look in the mirror.
Can't say we are not.

But the chemistry will fail
I believe the spirit we become can also fail...but it doesn't have to.

Still...as we stand from the dead and dying meat.....
heaven might not allow any continuance.

If we behave like animals and strive nothing more.....
why allow such a thing into heaven?

Walk among angels without grace?.....I think not.
I am going to try one more time, just one more time. Just because you type a lot of words does not mean that you answered the question I asked, or even show that you read the question I asked. So please try to concentrate, here are the questions I asked.

What does this have to do with our biological classification as an Ape?

What does it have to do with evolution in general?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
fantôme profane;3879259 said:
I am going to try one more time, just one more time. Just because you type a lot of words does not mean that you answered the question I asked, or even show that you read the question I asked. So please try to concentrate, here are the questions I asked.

What does this have to so with our biological classification as an Ape?

What does it have to do with evolution in general?

Well...if you insist....call yourself an ape.
Continue to do so even as you proceed on your way to heaven.

I suspect you should at least call yourself a ....man.

Don't see a difference in the mirror?
Maybe heaven won't either.

OR maybe you might be willing to drop the stubborn argument I've seen so far in this thread?

Evolution?...yeah.
I like the idea.
It made me more than an ape.

How about you?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Well...if you insist....call yourself an ape.
Continue to do so even as you proceed on your way to heaven.

I suspect you should at least call yourself a ....man.

Don't see a difference in the mirror?
Maybe heaven won't either.

OR maybe you might be willing to drop the stubborn argument I've seen so far in this thread?

Evolution?...yeah.
I like the idea.
It made me more than an ape.

How about you?
What do you think an Ape is? Are you ashamed to be a mammal? Or do you deny being a mammal? What is it about being an Ape that bothers you?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
fantôme profane;3879268 said:
What do you think an Ape is? Are you ashamed to be a mammal? Or do you deny being a mammal? What is it about the being an Ape that bothers you?

I prefer (as religious discussions come and go)....
that Man IS something that heaven might consider worthwhile.

If not....then all of this is dust and will proceed no further than your last step.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
fantôme profane;3879268 said:
What do you think an Ape is? Are you ashamed to be a mammal? Or do you deny being a mammal? What is it about being an Ape that bothers you?

The rat is a mammal, does that mean that you and the rat is one because both of you are classified as mammals.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
The rat is a mammal, does that mean that you and the rat is one because both of you are classified as mammals.
It means that we share a common heritage as mammals, sharing a common ancestor approximately 80 million years ago and joining with rodents into the Superorder Euarchontoglires. Our relationship with the great apes is much, much closer than that.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
It means that we share a common heritage as mammals, sharing a common ancestor approximately 80 million years ago and joining with rodents into the Superorder Euarchontoglires. Our relationship with the great apes is much, much closer than that.

We share common heritage because the maker is one.

Radio,Television,computers .....etc work by electricity.

Those are called electronic devices but the radio isn't similar to the computer.
Human isn't similar to the rat even though their maker is one and even though that they are classified in one group.
 

Parsimony

Well-Known Member
We share common heritage because the maker is one.

Radio,Television,computers .....etc work by electricity.

Those are called electronic devices but the radio isn't similar to the computer.
Human isn't similar to the rat even though their maker is one and even though that they are classified in one group.
Depends on how one defines "similar". We are similar in some ways and different in others.
 
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