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Evolution, the Creation Theory or Genetic Engineering?

Pari

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I would like to start this Topic with a discussion on the contents of the ancient Sumerian Tablets where genetic engineering experiments were done:

1. to create humans or human-like species (Neanderthals) through mixing human gene with the apeman's gene, and

2. to alter the features of humans.

Through this discussion, we can evaluate the possibilities of whether ancient genetic engineering experiments may have been responsible for some of the weird looking bones, which had been found and which are being considered as evidences of evolution.
But before I start a discussion on the contents of the Sumerian Tablets, I am going to explain a little about the contents of the ancient Sumerian Tablets here, so that the reader will understand why I am using the Sumerian Tablets in my discussion here. Then, I will connect the genetic engineering experiments, and other contents in the Sumerian Tablets, to the Neanderthals and Cro Magnons. Then, I will be discussing the following:

1. the possibilities of evolution of the apeman to the present day man

2. how the Replitians had paved the way for ET and evolution believers (just as they had paved the way for Buddha, Abraham, Christ, and Mohammad).

3. the possibilities of ancient genetic engineering experiments that may have created and / or aggravated the Rh negative blood situation (I will be connecting the Cro Magnons to this discussion relating to the Rh negative blood; and I will also be discussing the elongated skulls, giants etc).
I will be discussing the Sumerian Tablets later, in another Topic, so as to give explanations on the story in the Sumerian Tablet. So I am not going to explain, the contents of the Sumerian Tablets, to a great extent here.

I am using the translation by the late Mr.Zecharia Sitchin because I don't think there are any official translation of the Sumerian Tablets. At least, Zecharia Sitchin had tried his best to translate the Sumerian Tablets. However, I am not using the 'alien' interpretation as Zecharia Sitchin presented it because, in my view, there is a spiritual meaning to this 'alien' aspect. We are 'aliens' to this corporeal world:

1. when we are in the Soul World (the Soul World is the Home from which all souls came from)

2. when we are in the divine world on earth (during the first half of the cycle) because that divine dimension is a dimension that cannot be accessed, once our spiritual strength drops to a lower lever

3. when we are in the Confluence Aged subtle region, at the end of the cycle (which involves world transformation through self transformation)

4. when we were in the Confluence between the Silver Age and the Copper Age (when we were losing the divine world). We were losing our perfect world and we were lost, like as if we were aliens in a new place. This has been reflected in the Sumerian Tablets (in addition to the fact that the Reptilians were paving the way for the ET believers).
 

Pari

Member
Nibiru is another word that needs to be explained. Actually, you might have a better understanding of what Nibiru means, when I explain all the contents of the Sumerian Tablets from the start. But, for the time being, just to explain what I am trying to say, I am going to use something that has been stated in Sumerian Tablet 10 (5 of 7),
"Enlil and Enki to the distant mountainland hurried, with amazement they the discovery viewed:
Gold, pure gold, refining and smelting not requiring, all about was lying!
A miracle it is! So was Enki to Enlil saying. What by Nibiru was wrought, by Nibiru was amended!
The unseen hand of the Creator of All it is, life on Nibiru to enable! So did Enlil say."


The above was something that had happened after the Deluge / Flood that was being related in the Sumerian Tablets. After, the Flood, the Anunnaki found gold in it's pure form. Before the Flood, the Anunnaki had first extracted a little gold from the waters. Then, later, they were extracting epithermal gold from deep beneath the earth's surfaces. So it would seem that the destructive events, during the Flood, had brought about a situation where the gold had emerged to the top and it made it easier for the Anunnaki to get the gold.


Even at the end of this cycle (maybe by 2036), there is going to be a time when gold will get washed ashore from deep beneath the earth. That gold would be used in the New World during the re-building for the new world. The Sumerian Tablets may have also been reflecting this; even though the destructive events in the Copper Age might have also brought out gold from beneath the earth in South America.


In the Sumerian Tablets, it is portrayed that Nibiru's cyclic path, when Nibiru was near the earth, had brought about this destructive event (which included the Flood). There may be a possibility that some astronomical object might come close to earth at the end of the cycle. But that is just a possibility. Since the possibility for this astronomical object to come close to earth is around the end of the cycle (which is now, when the Soul World is also close), the ancient people had associated the astronomical object to the Soul World. The Soul World is filled with red light, which is why Nibiru is said to be red. Nibiru coming close to earth is shown as a cyclic event because the end (which involves the Soul World and God) happens in a cyclic manner. All human souls return to the red Soul World at the end of every cycle, after destructive events take place on earth. The ancient people had associated God to the Soul World. It is God who creates the new world and when that happens, the old world is wiped out so that the new world can replace it. God is the Purifier and He has to purify us before taking us back to the Soul World. Purification takes place during Judgement Day. The ancient people were waiting for the day when they can all go back to the Soul World because, after that, they can enjoy immortality. This needs more explaining and I do not want to attempt that now. But this is why it was said,


“A miracle it is! So was Enki to Enlil saying. What by Nibiru was wrought, by Nibiru was amended!
The unseen hand of the Creator of All it is, life on Nibiru to enable! So did Enlil say.”


Life on Nibiru includes the following situations:


1.resting in the Soul World,


2.living in the divine world on earth (in the Golden Age and Silver Age),


3.having our consciousness in the Confluence Aged subtle region (at the end of the cycle). Through having our consciousness in the Confluence Aged subtle region, we are living in the Confluence Age. We are also bringing God and the Soul World close to earth through keeping our consciousness in the Confluence Aged subtle region.


The new divine world, on earth, gets created through the Confluence Age. The Confluence Aged spiritual dimension is for all those who are involved with 'world transformation through self transformation'. This is why there are so many heroes and 'gods and goddesses' in the Sumerian Tablet story and in the pagan, Hindu and other religions.


The founder of other religions are known but the Founder of the pagan and Hindu religion is not known. Actually, all the religions where there are many 'gods and goddesses' can be categorised as having been derived from the ancient Deity Religion. God founded the Deity Religion at the end of the previous cycle when He transformed Mankind into divine people who had finally walked out of the divine world, at the end of the Silver Age. Having walked out, at the end of the Silver Age, those people had started bhakti/worship for the Deity Religion devotees. And they had also paved the way for other religious founders. And they had also paved the way for the ET and evolution believers. If one goes through all that existed (in ancient times) relating to Buddhism, Abraham, Christ and Mohammad, it would be obvious that 'unknown ancient people' had paved the way for these religious founders. I will be discussing this again, later on.


The story, in the Sumerian Tablets, was created when the people were walking out of the divine world and were trying to re-create their divine world at the beginning of the Copper Age. They created this story, in the Sumerian Tablets, based on:


1.what was happening to them,


2.what they were doing, and


3.based on historical events.


Though the contents in the Sumerian Tablets are based on events that had happened; there is also a very creative story, in the Sumerian Tablets, that is based on actual events. It is obvious that it is a story because there are different myths and scripture stories world-wide with the same theme. All these myths and scripture stories were created based on the same historical events and so there are similarities in all of them. The differences in the stories provide for glamour and creativity that has been added to the historical events. Since the heroes, in the myths, are those who were kings and other influential people, living at that time, one can understand why the glamour and creativity had been added, accepted and just continued (From royal father to royal son. And from loyal subjects to their descendants).


There are signs in historical findings etc that the ancient kings and other influential men had tried to write an account of what they had done, which would become written history for the future. Alexander the Great's written accounts are one good example. But by Alexander's time, people had begun writing in a more factual manner and not through adding so much of glamour and creativity into their written works (even though a lot of legends do exist in respect of Alexander the Great as well).


The people who had just walked out of the divine world, at the end of the Silver Age, still had a spiritual strength that was quite high and so they naturally used the right hemisphere of the brain more than the left. So they were more creative. This will explain the creative nature of the myths and the story in the Sumerian Tablets. By Alexander's time,they had slowly begun using the left hemisphere of the brain more and so they were not as creative as the earlier people. With time, we had begun to use the left hemisphere more than the right; and so we have become very intelligent now. However, this is at the expense of spiritually (which requires the use of the right hemisphere more than the left).
It is obvious that in the Sumerian story, a lot actually relates about the things that the people had done at that time itself and not just on historical events. Those ancient people were also involved with life-dramas and so they would have placed and built stuff around them to turn their story or life-drama into a real-like life-drama. This will also explain why the pyramids and the sphinx, which are something very similar to that which has been described in the Sumerian Tablets, do exist.


I would say that the creation of the Pyramids and the Sphinx is actually mentioned in “Enki Sumerian Tablet Translation Ch.10 (6 of 7)”.
 

Pari

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Just in case you can't get the linked page, all the words in Sumerian Tablet Translation Ch.10 (6 of 7) are as follows,


“Artificial peaks thereon we can raise! So did Ningishzidda to the leaders say.
On a tablet the image of smooth-sided, skyward rising peaks for them he drew.
If it can be done, let it so be! Enlil with approval said. Let them also as beacons serve!
On the flatland, above the river's valley, Ningishzidda a scale model built,
The rising angles and four smooth sides with it he perfected.
Next to it a larger peak he placed, its sides to Earth's four corners he set;
By the Anunnaki, with their tools of power, were its stones cut and erected.
Beside it, in a precise location, the peak that was its twin he placed;
With galleries and chambers for pulsating crystals he designed it.
When this artful peak to the heavens rose, to place upon it the capstone the leaders were invited.
Of electrum, an admixture by Gibil fashioned, was the Apex Stone made.
The sunlight to the horizon it reflected, by night like a pillar of fire it was,
The power of all the crystals to the heavens in a beam it focused.
When the artful works, by Ningishzidda designed, were completed and ready,
The Anunnaki leaders the Great Twin Peak entered, at what they saw they marveled;
Ekur, House Which Like a Mountain is, they named it, a beacon to the heavens it was.
That the Anunnaki the Deluge survived and prevailed forever it proclaimed.
Now the new Place of the Celestial Chariots gold from across the seas can receive,
From it the chariots to Nibiru the gold for survival it shall carry;
From it to the east, where the Sun on the designated day rises, they will ascend,
To it to the southwest, where the Sun on the designated day sets, they will descend!
Then Enlil by his own hand the Nibiru crystals activated.
Inside eerie lights began to flicker, an enchanting hum the stillness broke;
Outside the capstone all at once was shining, brighter than the Sun it was.
The multitude of assembled Anunnaki a great cry of joy uttered;
Ninmah, by the occasion moved, a poem recited and sang:
House that is like a mountain, house with a pointed peak,
For Heaven-Earth it is equipped, the handiwork of the Anunnaki it is.
House bright and dark, house of heaven and Earth,
For the celestial boats it was put together, by the Anunnaki built.
House whose interior with a reddish light of heaven glows,
A pulsating beam that far and high reaches it emits;
Lofty mountain of mountains, great and lofty fashioned,
Beyond the understanding of Earthlings it is.
House of equipment, lofty house of eternity,
Its foundation stones the waters touch, its great circumference in clay is set.
House whose parts are skilfully together woven,
The great ones who in the skies circle to a resting make descent;
House that for the rocketships is a landmark, with unfathomable insides,
By Anu himself is the Ekur blessed.
Thus did Ninmah at the celebration recite and sing.
While the Anunnaki their remarkable handiwork were celebrating,
Enki to Enlil words of suggestion said: When in future days it will be asked:
When and by whom has this marvel been fashioned?
Let us beside the twin peaks a monument create, the Age of the Lion let it announce,
The image of Ningishzidda, the peaks' designer, let its face be,
Let it precisely toward the Place of the Celestial Chariots gaze,
When, by whom, and the purpose let it to future generations reveal!
So did Enki to Enlil suggest. To the words Enlil consented and to Enki said:
Of the Place of the Celestial Chariots, Utu must again the commander be;
Let the gazing lion, precisely eastward facing, with Ningishzidda's image be!
When the work to cut and shape the lion from the bedrock was proceeding,
Marduk to his father Enki words of aggrievement said:
To dominate the whole Earth to me did you promise,
Now command and glory to others are granted, without task or dominion I am left.
In my erstwhile domain are the artificed mounts situated, on the lion the image mine must be! ”.
 

Pari

Member
The above ends the translation in this video but the words in Sumerian Tablet Translation Ch.10 (7 of 7) continue to state


“By these words of Marduk Ningishzidda was angered, the other sons were also annoyed,
By the clamor for domains Ninurta and his brothers were also aroused,
Lands for themselves and devoted Earthlings everyone was demanding!
Let not the celebration a contest become! Ninmah amidst the raised voices shouted.
The Earth is still in havoc, we Anunnaki are few, of the Earthlings there are only survivors!
Let Marduk Ningishzidda of the honor not deprive, let us Marduk's words also heed!
So did Ninmah, the peacemaker, to the contending leaders say. ”.


Just in case you have not understood what was happening in the Tablet: after the Flood / Deluge, the Anunnaki were 'rebuilding' in order to continue their task of collecting gold for Nibiru. So the Anunnaki were building new space facilities in the olden lands. Among these were also two artificial mounds and a lion-shaped structure. It was the face of Ningishzidda (a son of Enki) that was supposed to be the face of the lion, in the Lion-Shaped monument (Sphinx).


The fact that the Pyramids and the Sphinx really do exist is a sign that the contents in the Sumarian Tablets were relying on events and structures that may have actually taken place or which actually existed.


In Sumerian Tablet 10 it was said,


“Now this is the account of the new Place of the Celestial Chariots,
And the artificed twin mounts and how the image of the lion by Marduk was usurped.”.
 

Pari

Member
In Sumerian Tablet 12 (5 of 6) it was said “Ningishzidda as Tehuti, the Divine Measurer, was recalled; To erase his memory Ra the people made; … the watching of the Moon by the watching of the Sun he replaced.”.


This might be where Marduk, as Ra, had changed the face of the lion as mentioned earlier in Tablet 10. It should be noted that the Sphinx is facing east (like as if it was waiting for the rising Sun). This gives emphasis for the 'watching of the Sun' in the Sumerian Tablet (though I would say that the Sphinx was 'waiting for the Sun').


Though the ancient people had tried to re-create their perfect world at that time itself, they knew that the divine world can only get re-created at the end of the cycle. The Reptilians knew that God would only come back and do His 'creating' stuff on earth again at the end of the cycle; just as the Sun would only emerge every morning to do it's beautiful work on earth.


The 'watching of the moon' was for the calender that was being amended based on climatic changes that were taking place through the destructive events at the beginning of the Copper Age. The 'watching of the moon' also gives emphasis to the human souls' ability to reflect the light of the Sun (God) into the world for the re-creation of the divine world. When we reflect God's light into the corporeal world, we will shine like the moon. But this can only happen at the end of the cycle because the divine world is not supposed to get re-created until the end of the cycle.


The 'watching of the Sun' gives emphasis to God's role at the end of the cycle. The Reptilians, from the second generation in the Copper Age, had started getting involved with the 'creation process' that would take place at the end of the cycle. So, it was like as if they were keeping a watch on, and for, the Sun (God). Since they were trying to play the role of God on earth, they were also involved with playing the role 'of the sun'. And so, for all these reasons and other reasons, Marduk was shown to have given emphasis to the 'watching of the Sun'.


However, the first generation in the Copper Age knew and accepted that they had to wait for the end for the 'creation' to take place. This was why emphasis was also given to the end, through the messages that were brought down from the Reptilians.


Anyway, even the Lion-Shaped monument in the Sumerian Tablet is also facing east, just as the Sphinx is. Ra is also the Sun God. I would say that, basically, the contents in the Sumerian Tablet were also trying to say that the new ruler (Ra) was giving more importance to the Sun rather than the Moon.
 

Pari

Member
Actually, in Sumerian Tablet 12 (5 of 6), there was a quarrel between Marduk and his younger brother, Ningishzidda. Enki, finally, told his younger son (Ningishzidda) to leave. And Ningishzidda left (with a band of followers) for a new land that was across the ocean. Marduk remained and he was then worshipped as Ra. Marduk / Ra then replaces the face of the lion next to the pyramid with his own face. Through this, references to his younger brother, Ningishzidda, is erased.


Ra is the ancient Egyptian sun god. The pyramids with the Sphinx are also in Egypt. All these seem to reflect the stage on earth, related to the story in the Sumerian Tablets.


It is currently being said that the head of the sphinx is too small for the body and that it may have been altered from the lion's head to become a man's head. But from what is being said in the Sumerian tablets, it seems like as if the first head was a representation or was the face of one ruler (man) that had been altered to another ruler's (man's) face. Present day history (and archeological finds) show that in Egypt, this type of destroying the remnants of old kings has taken place.


The Sumerian Tablets are also relating facts about astronomy which seems quite accurate. There are also other stuff in the Sumerian Tablets which seems to be similar to other things that had happened in the past. For example, in the Sumerian Tablets, royal cities with sacred precincts for the gods had got created. From present day history and archeological finds, it does seem like as if something like this may have happened in ancient days.


Just as there are structures, events etc (in the Sumerian Tablets) that were based on what was happening at that time; it can be said that something similar to the Neanderthals and the Cro Magnons have been mentioned in the Sumerian Tablets. The Sumerian Tablets relate that genetic engineering was used as one of the means of creating a new species and as a way of changing the features or characteristics of the corporeal body.
 

Pari

Member
I think I should explain about the Anunnaki first so that one can understand as to why they are doing the genetic engineering experiments in the Sumerian Tablets.

To understand who the Anunnaki represented, one must first understand what had happened as the people were walking out of the divine world, at the end of the Silver Age and one must understand what they were doing after that too. So, before I explain who the Anunnaki were, I would like to explain events from the end of the Silver Age, when the divine world was instantly lost, until the time in the Copper Age when the world was losing it's perfect state in the corporeal sense. I am going to refer to those who had walked out of the divine world as the Reptilians. I will discuss this Reptilian aspect later, while I discuss the evolution theory. It would be interesting to note how the Reptilians had created the Age of the Reptilians / Dinosaurs that had been followed by the Age of the Monkeys (through genetic engineering); before they began creations for the Age of 'Man' through genetic engineering.

The following is based on:

1. my research on what is being said about and in various scriptures, the Sumerian Tablets, various myths and other evidences left behind by the ancient people,

2. experiences which I had and visions which I had seen from 1996

3. God's messages and spiritual knowledge in the Brahma Kumaris.

Those who had walked out of the Silver Age had tried to connect what they were doing to what happens during the Confluence Age, at the end of the cycle. They were making this connection through the myths, their life-dramas and also through the genetic engineering experiments which they were doing at that time.
 

Pari

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In the Sumerian Tablets, Enki creates earthlings. He begins this when he, and the 2 other Anunnakis, create Adamu (Adam) and Ti-Amat (Eve), through genetic engineering experiments. Then, Enki leaves Adamu and Ti-Amat in Edin (Eden) to roam around.

Eden actually represents the divine world. However, since the Copper Aged people were creating people for their life dramas and for other purposes, they portrayed Edin in a number of ways. Edin included:

1. the divine world (Eden) that had existed during the first half of the cycle of 5000 years,

2. the place which represented the divine world for their life-drama in the Copper Age,

3. the place which was in the process of getting transformed but was not completely transformed into the ordinary world as yet,

4. the place where the Reptilians were trying to re-create their perfect world.

Similarly, the Adam in the Bible represents the divine Man that was created, during the Confluence Age (at the end of the previous cycle), to live in the divine world (in the Golden Age of the new cycle). The Reptilians had tried to connect the Copper Age to the Confluence Age (at the end of the cycle) by getting involved with the creation of the perfect man through genetic engineering experiments. And 'Adamu' represented their creation which was to be equated to the 'Adam' that had been created during the Confluence Age, at the end of the previous cycle. It should be noted that, at the end of the Confluence Age (at the end of the cycle), the perfect body was created from the imperfect one through transformation. Further, at the end of the Silver Age, the perfect body was transforming into an imperfect one again. So, to portray this imperfect aspect in the creation of Man, the Apeman gene was used along with their own Anunnaki gene so as to create Adamu (Man). If you look closely at all that is being said of Adamu, one would realise that Adamu represents:

1. the perfect Man (Adam) who was created for living from the beginning of the cycle in the divine world,

2. the Man who had got transformed from the divine state (Adam) to the ordinary state (Adamu) because the world had transformed into the ordinary state

3. the genetically modified Man in the Copper Age.
 

Pari

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Through genetic engineering experiments, the Reptilians had tried to create the perfect body for Man. Since Man's bodies were transforming into the ordinary state, the Reptilians were trying to re-create the perfect body again through genetic engineering.

The genetic engineering experiments had also added a greater variety into Mankind, from the beginning of the Copper Age. Different kinds of people had begun to exist from the beginning of the Copper Age when the perfect bodies were being transformed into their ordinary state again. The Reptilians were assisting the World Drama to have more variety through their genetic engineering experiments. It should be remembered that the spiritual strength, of the Reptilians, was still quite high and so they were using their right hemisphere of the brain more than the left. So they flowed along with the World Drama, in their own way.

At the end of the cycle, when transformation takes place, the bodies that are born in the new divine world will all have white skin, black hair and black eyes. Even if the parents of the child had genes for blue eyes and blonde hair, the gene will get transformed to provide for black hair and black eyes. Even if the parents of the child had genes that provided for black skin, their gene would get transformed to give the child a white skin. Thus, there will only be one race in the perfect world, during the first half cycle. Then, at the beginning of the Copper Age, when the bodies transform back into their ordinary state, the genes transform back to provide variety in skin colour, hair colour, eye colour and in the features. So, all that had existed when Adam was being created (in the Confluence Age, at the end of the cycle) will come into existence again at the beginning of the Copper Age when Adamu comes into existence in the Copper Age.
 

Pari

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The genetic engineering experiments were also providing :

1. imperfect bodies for those who had sinned,

2. a race that looked like gods or reptilians or 'aliens' on earth.

The genetic engineering experiments were also paving the way for the evolution believers. I will discuss all these again later when I discuss the creation of the Neanderthals and Cro Magnons.

Another reason why Edin and Adamu connects 'the creation at the beginning of the cycle' to “the genetic engineering creation that were done at the beginning of the Copper Age” was because the Reptilians had begun to play God on earth. It should be noted that the myths were only put into writing at a later date. Those who had walked out of the divine world did not play God on earth. It was only from the 3rd generation in the Copper Age, that the Reptilians had begun to play God on earth. Though the second generation (in the Copper Age) had got involved with 'attaining immortality' and with resurrection, they were still trying to act as God's representatives on earth, as how it was at the end of the cycle. Then, the 3rd generation began to see themselves and their ancestors as God on earth. Since their spiritual strength was weaker, they began wondering about who God was; and they began to think that they and their ancestors should be or were God on earth. So, those from the 3rd generation had begun portraying their ancestors and themselves as God. They tried to get everyone to worship their ancestors and themselves as God. One would be able to see signs of this in the Sumerian Tablets and also in what was being said about King Nebuchadnezzar in the Bible.

The stories in the line of Abraham and the stories in the Sumerian Tablets were based on the same stories that had been created by those who had walked out of the divine world. However, those in the line of Abraham had amended the stories in their favour; and the later Reptilians, involved with the myths, got the stories amended to give greater importance to themselves and their ancestors. It should be noted that even the story in the Sumerian Tablets were written by someone else, later on. And I am not sure if there are any possibilities that the Sumerian Tablets may have been changed after that. I will be discussing these when I discuss the Attestation to the Sumerian Tablets (under another Topic explaining the Sumerian Tablets).
 

Pari

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Maybe, I should relate some of the visions and experiences which I had, so that the reader can form their own conclusions. I had seen a vision sometime between 1996 and 2000 involving my past birth which had walked out of the divine world (who I refer to as my first Copper Aged birth, though he also existed at the beginning of the Confluence which overlapped the end of the Silver Age.) In the Copper Age, this past birth had gone to meet the King of Bharath (in the present day North India). The King of Bharath had the richest and most influential kingdom at that time. And I had explained that, based on my spiritual experiences, I had to get involved with the creation of the stories/myths though he was involved with creating bhakti for worship. I had put forward a plan for the stories/myths and he had agreed to it. And I had created stories/myths as agreed. Through other experiences and visions, I got to know that my second Copper Aged birth had done bhakti / worship to emerge in the Confluence Age, at the end of the cycle, so as to explain the myths etc which had been created. This second Copper Aged past birth had emerged in 1996 to take control. Actually, my experiences and visions relating to the past births had only begun after this 2nd Copper Aged past birth had emerged in 1996. Before that, my experiences with past births were not that significant. I am going to make references to other articles which I had written to make it a little easier for me.
 

Pari

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From Part 73 - Aliens, UFOs and Parallel Universes - Reptilian Immortal Past Births (1 - Emerged in 1996; Collective Consciousness of the Reptilian Past Births):

“I have surrendered myself to God's Confluence Aged work and I am trying to make sure that I, the soul, remain in the surrendered state so that God can move me as per the World Drama. But then, there is something else that is happening to me which seems like as if it is a conflicting situation to my surrendered state. Past births have been emerging ever since 1996. A past birth had emerged during the first time when I was hearing God's message called the sakar murli in the Brahma Kumaris center in P.J., Malaysia. Through visions and my experiences, I got to know that this past birth had done bhakti, during it's life-time at the beginning of the Copper Age, so as to emerge when the sakar murli was being read at the end of the cycle. I got to know that God had given this past birth the blessing to emerge at the time when the sakar murli was being heard for the first time, by the soul, because of the bhakti that this past birth had done. So it was able to emerge at the specified time.

Something was happening when I was hearing the sakar murli for the first time but I am not sure as to what was happening. I only became aware that a past birth had emerged when the murli was coming to an end. It was the past birth which was trying to say good morning to God at the end of the murli. In the BK centers, Good Morning to God is said in Hindi but I think, this past birth was using another language to speak through using my corporeal body, and I think this was disturbing the others who were sitting there. My consciousness had kept shifting from mine to this past birth's constantly and so I was noticing the reactions, that these people were having and of what Peru Bhai was doing as a response, when I became aware of what was happening. Peru Bhai, the centerwasi in charge of the PJ center, was watching me while indicating to the others to continue saying good morning as usual and while trying to guide me to say it in Hindi. Actually, I did not know how to say it in Hindi at that time. Since I did not know, I would not have spoken out so loudly as the past birth did. I was quite diplomatic in my ways at that time. But I think the past birth was speaking it out loud and then when he realised that he was using the wrong language, he did something and he was able to continue saying it in Hindi. I think this is what had happened. I had also seen a lot of visions before, during and after that “good morning” session where it had seemed like as if I was identifying what was happening and recognising that it was the Confluence Age and the Confluence Aged spiritual knowledge which was being related. Actually, it was the past birth, which had emerged, which was investigating as to what was happening and he understood everything through these visions which he saw. Having understood what had happened, he continued to participate in the gathering but it was obvious that the BK gathering, that was gathered there, was not able to accept it.

There may be more than one birth, during which, we may have tried to keep ourselves in an immortal state. My second birth in the Copper Age was trying to play a role as an instrument of God, at the end of the cycle, so as to explain the evidences left behind by the ancient people, through using the Confluence Aged knowledge. It was this 2nd Copper Aged past birth which emerged when the sakar murli was being read. My 3rd Copper Aged past birth emerged later, in the Bangsar center in Malaysia. … This 3rd Copper Aged birth was not that concerned if God was involved with his programming himself to play the immortal role, though later, through the influence of those in the line of Abraham, his faith in God did increase with time. ...”
 

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From Part 74 - Aliens, UFOs and Parallel Universes - Reptilian Immortal Past Births (2 - Mapmaker Emerged in 1996) :

“In 1996, while I was hearing the sakar murli, which are God's messages read in the Brahma Kumaris' centers in the early morning hours, my 2nd Copper Aged past birth emerged to play his role. The sakar murli will only be received from God at the end of the cycle, when it is time for the creation of the divine world. So it was an indication that the end was near and the creation of the new divine world was in process. This past birth also had the role of explaining the messages and other evidences left behind through using the Confluence Aged spiritual knowledge, given through the murlis. As per the plan of all the ancient people, this past birth was to play the role of the mapmaker at the end of the cycle, along with others. So the past birth had done bhakti to emerge at the specified time when he had emerged. I could see the visions which this 2nd Copper Aged past birth was seeing, while he was trying to identify what the murli was all about, what kind of situation he had emerged into and what time of the cycle it was since he has emerged to play his role. It had seemed to me that even Peru Bhai, the centerwasi in charge of the PJ center, was watching these visions, which this past birth was seeing to get information. I am not sure as to when Peru Bhai began to be aware of these visions. I never discussed it with Peru Bhai because I was not sure if he had seen it and I did not want anyone to wonder if I had gone mad because I was asking such weird questions.

But I do think that Peru Bhai had seen some of the visions which I had seen because once he approached me and asked me to talk to Letchu Bhai, the centerwasi in charge of all the Malaysian centers, about what was happening to me. Since Peru Bhai asked me to do that in such a polite and sweet manner, I had talked to Letchu Bhai. Pure Bhai, who helps Letchu Bhai to run the Bangsar center, was in the room when I was having the conversation with Letchu Bhai even though Pure Bhai was not sitting with us and participating during the conversation. But it seemed to me that he was listening to the conversation that was taking place between me and Letchu Bhai. I did not tell Letchu Bhai about my past births, I had just told him about a few of my other experiences and visions. Letchu Bhai told me that even Maya can give visions and I did not say anything to that because I was not interested in discussing it with him. For the BKs, Maya refers to the vices. As I was leaving the room, after having had the conversation with Letchu Bhai, Peru Bhai (who was waiting outside while I was having the conversation with Letchu Bhai) had walked in as I was walking out. I heard him say something to the effect that he also saw the visions which I saw. And I heard Letchu Bhai laughingly say something to the effect, “You cannot have visions of your own, so you tumpang into the visions of another”. Tumpang is a Malay word which means, “took a ride in ” or “took a stay in”. Actually, I was not interested in hearing what they were saying and so I was trying my best not to hear what they were saying while I was quickly walking off. Later, Dadi Janki came to Malaysia and she was looking into my eyes while talking. It seemed to me that she was happy to see me ...”
 

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In my next post, I will be discussing one of the visions which I had seen and which I had informed Letchu Bhai about during the abovementioned meeting. I was not eager to talk about my past births to anyone at that time. Since I myself had wondered if I was going insane, I decided that others might also think the same if I told them. But I knew that I was not going insane. A insane person will not be able to continue analysis as I still could do, as I always had done. Everything was the same about me except for these visions and past births emerging to take control. But I have control over the situation now, because of my increased spiritual strength.

Anyway, after this 2nd past birth had emerged, while I (with this past birth in an emerged state) was considering the myths, he (I) began to realise that these myths sounded different from what he (I) had created at the beginning of the Copper Age. Then, he (I) started subtly looking into the development of the myths from the time he (I) was involved with the myths from the beginning of the Copper Age. He (I) noticed that others had changed the myths from that time onwards and so the myths had become a little different. Actually, even though this past birth was contemplating on the myths and realising that they were changed, it had seemed like as if I was doing that because I am the soul (though I am using different birth roles).
 

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The King of Bharath, who I had talked to in my earlier vision (which I related above) has taken his last birth as the founder of the Brahma Kumaris. The BKs refer to him as Brahma Baba.

The normal practice of Hindus is that they cremate the dead bodies. The BKs have cremated all the bodies of BKs, who have left their bodies, except for that of Brahma Baba's. The BKs had buried Brahma Baba's body within the compounds of the headquarters at Madhuban, Mount Abu, India. And they have even built the Tower of Peace above the place where he was buried. BKs told me that Brahma Baba was buried there so that he could continue playing his angelic role from there, in Madhuban. This had sounded absurd to me, at that time when I was hearing it; though I did not voice it out. Now, I have begun to understand that another reason why he was buried there was to connect the Confluence Age to the beginning of the Copper Age. At the beginning of the Copper Age, memories of what had happened in the Confluence Age, at the end of the cycle, will emerge to influence us to get involved with 'resurrection' and 'immortality'. These will influence the Copper Aged Reptilians to also get involved with the Reptilian Immortal role which they play until the end of the cycle. My 2nd Copper Aged past birth was doing bhakti to play this immortal role, which was why he had emerged now to play his 'immortal' role which is related to 'resurrection'.

This may sound weird, but when I was in Madhuban, I always went and sat near the Tower of Peace to meditate from around 4 a.m, for the early morning amrit vela meditation. I enjoyed looking at the Tower of Peace while meditating and I enjoyed the idea that Brahma Baba was buried there to play his angelic role from there. I had formed the opinion that the vibrations in / near the Tower of Peace was more powerful than what it was when we sat a little further away. But since there were a lot of people wanting to sit in/near the Tower of Peace, I began sitting a little further away so that BKs, who find it difficult to go beyond, can take the benefit of the good vibrations there.

Whatever we do, hear and see now, will emerge (in the Copper Age) to influence us to do something based on those emerged memories. And whatever was done at the beginning of the Copper Age will influence us now. The Confluence Age, at the end of the cycle, and the beginning of the Copper Age is connected through this. It should be noted that the ancient people were burying their dead for the special rites relating to 'resurrection' and 'immortality'. The BKs did not bury Brahma Baba with any rites. The body was just buried there to signify that Brahma Baba has begun to play an angelic role and that he will not take any more births in this cycle anymore. His next birth will only be in the new cycle. Until the end of the cycle, he will play an angelic role in the subtle regions until he is taken back to the Soul World, along with all the others who have accumulated in the subtle region without taking anymore births in the present cycle.
 

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If one scrutinizes the myths and scripture stories, one would find that the ancient people had connected the Confluence Age (at the end of the cycle) to what was happening at the beginning of the Copper Age. Even the events in the Sumerian Tablets are actually connecting what they were doing to that which happens during the Confluence Age, at the end of the cycle. You will understand this better when I start explaining the Sumerian Tablets while showing the connection. In fact, it is because of this connection between the beginning of the Copper Age and the Confluence Age (at the end of the cycle) that the people at the beginning of the Copper Age were involved with the genetic engineering experiments. They were trying to do what was happening at the end of the cycle (when the perfect bodies were being created for the perfect world). But at the beginning of the Copper Age, the perfect bodies were transforming into imperfect ones. So not only were the Reptilians trying to keep the bodies in a perfect state through genetic engineering but they were also creating imperfect bodies for the people who had sinned. They had also tried to create a body for the gods who were to be worshipped by altering genes to create giants etc. I will be discussing these again later when I discuss evolution and the genetic engineering experiments in the Sumerian Tablets.

Continued in the next post.
 

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Not the Ancient Astronaut hypothesis! :eek:

Evolution. Personally, directed panspermia ranks highly in my possibility field, but there is currently no evidence (as far as I know) to conclusively state, "aliens messed with our DNA," so it is not an hypothesis I formally support at this time.
 

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Not the Ancient Astronaut hypothesis! :eek:

Evolution. Personally, directed panspermia ranks highly in my possibility field, but there is currently no evidence (as far as I know) to conclusively state, "aliens messed with our DNA," so it is not an hypothesis I formally support at this time.

I don't believe aliens came form another planet. I think it was ancient people on earth, who had the sciences under their control, who had been involved with genetic engineering experiments but I don't think they messed up with all our genes.

There's so much bad science fiction out there these days.

Try scrutinising all the evidences that had been left behind by the ancient people and then coming to a logical reasoning. A lot of people ignore all the evidences and just come to conclusions based on a few of the evidences left behind by the ancient people. This may be one of the reasons why there may have been so many opposing views.
 
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