Evolution vs. Creation, which is logical?

[shi]

Evolution is more logical then creationism, no? I am a sopomore, in high school, writing a paper, I need opions thank you.

 

[standing_on_one_foot]

Well, there's the idea that life developed and changed drastically over time and there's the story involving naked people and snakes...I suppose you can take your pick (oh, but I'm biased ). Yeah, I find evolution more logical. Others disagree, as you may have noticed.

 

[BUDDY]

I find both equally illogical, but I choose to believe in creationism. Sometimes God isn't logical. And what he can do is almost impossible for us to wrap our heads around.

 

[linwood]

Well, there's the idea that life developed and changed drastically over time and there's the story involving naked people and snakes...I suppose you can take your pick (oh, but I'm biased ). Yeah, I find evolution more logical. Others disagree, as you may have noticed.

While they may not be more logical you must admit stories about naked people with snakes are always more interesting.

The fossil record has got nothing on naked people with snakes as far as exciting reading.

 

[standing_on_one_foot]

Ooh, good point.

 

[andyjamal]

The theory of evolution is based on a "missing link". The scientific evidence actually shows that man simply appeared on earth. I propose that God did create the physical world, and this is not at variance with science. If we look at science and religion with open minds and independently investigate the truth, we will see that they support each other.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

Evolution is more logical then creationism, no? I am a sopomore, in high school, writing a paper, I need opions thank you.

There is absolutely nothing logical about creationism. If someone believes in creationism, they do so based on revealed faith. They may not have the inner strength to admit it, or they may feel the need to rationalize their beliefs, but in reality, belief in God (and creationism) is based solely on revealed faith. All arguments to the contrary are simply hallmarks of an individual that is not intellectually honest with themselves. Some people have that ability (to beleive in revealed faith) and others do not - for good or bad, I fall into the latter category.

TVOR

 

[Majikthise]

The theory of evolution is based on a "missing link". The scientific evidence actually shows that man simply appeared on earth. .

Horsehockey. I would be interested in seeing this evidence.:areyoucra

 

[cvipertooth]

There is absolutely nothing logical about creationism. If someone believes in creationism, they do so based on revealed faith. TVOR

That is, unless you belive that the processes of evolution were the processes that a higher power used to create/shape life, then it seems to be perfectly logical. Except for these days, what people see as "logical" is often times whatever they are comfortable with, which is the case with most new-earth creationists and it is mighty hard to tell them otherwise.

Evolution is more logical then creationism, no? I am a sopomore, in high school, writing a paper, I need opions thank you.

I think you will find, especially in high school ( i know this from experience) that whether or not something is logical is irrelavant. People are going to believe what they want to believe, or what their parents want to believe for that matter, until they can formulate some type of religious view for themselves. In my case, that consisted of finding a medium between "creationism" and evolution which allowed me to indulge in my theological views as well as hold true to logic, or science.

 

[Scuba Pete]

The most logical approach is creation by evolution. This gives you answers for both HOW as well as WHO! Evolution never tries to answer who, and the Bible was never intended to be a science text book. Neither proves nor disproves the other and those who foment the idea that they are mutually incompatible have an agenda (especially that TVOR character! )

 

[The Voice of Reason]

...(especially that TVOR character! )

The man speaks the truth... My agenda is a search for a logical proof of God...

I may disagree with NetDoc, but I do respect him (except when he reveals my evil plan to take over the world through the use of logic).

TVOR

 

[cvipertooth]

The theory of evolution is based on a "missing link". The scientific evidence actually shows that man simply appeared on earth.

Could you please show me this evidence? i'm very interested, it would answer many a question.

 

[Snowbear]

Neither.

Part of my college education involved studies of taxonomy and the theory of evolution. (Though I'm a Christian now, most of that time was spent as a non believer )

No scientist was ever able to explain the gaps in evolutionism. Sooooo.... where's the logic??

 

[cvipertooth]

No scientist was ever able to explain the gaps in evolutionism. Sooooo.... where's the logic??

A quote from my most favorite fantasy series, "Just because you don't know how to do something doesnt mean it can't be done."

What i'm trying to say, is that your key word was "was". It is perfectly acceptable that, in the near future, science will explain the gaps in evolution and it we be perfectly credible. until then, we can fill those gaps with theology, christianity, if you will, and it will be perfectly logical. you are correct, neither can provide complete logic, but that is when they stand alone.

 

[andyjamal]

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QUOTE=cvipertooth]Could you please show me this evidence? i'm very interested, it would answer many a question

We have fossilized remains of humans. There hasn't been any discoveries of fossilized remains of any creatures showing a process of man evolving from anything. This is true of all animals. Evolution is an unproven theory based on missing facts. The only thing that has been proven is that we did at somepoint appear on the planet, at least as long ago as the oldest known human remains.

 

[Majikthise]

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We have fossilized remains of humans. There hasn't been any discoveries of fossilized remains of any creatures showing a process of man evolving from anything. This is true of all animals. Evolution is an unproven theory based on missing facts. The only thing that has been proven is that we did at somepoint appear on the planet, at least as long ago as the oldest known human remains.

Australopithecines
Homo erectus
Homo sapiens
Homo sapiens sapiens

 

[cvipertooth]

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We have fossilized remains of humans. There hasn't been any discoveries of fossilized remains of any creatures showing a process of man evolving from anything. This is true of all animals. Evolution is an unproven theory based on missing facts. The only thing that has been proven is that we did at somepoint appear on the planet, at least as long ago as the oldest known human remains.

That is, if we take for granted that the fossilized human remains that we have are the only fossilized human remains out there. Who knows what other fossils are yet to be found. A theory is hardly disproven by missing facts. It is the missing facts that makes it a theory, otherwise it would be a law. The fact that there are variations in the fossil record lends itself towards a gradual change, instead of this spontaneous appearing you speak of. These variations are present in the fossilized human remains you speak of, as well. At any rate, the fossil record is far from disproving the evolution

 

[Halcyon]

Australopithecines
Homo erectus
Homo sapiens
Homo sapiens sapiens

You missed out Homo habilis

And also Homo sapiens neanderthalis, our sister species. The bible never mentions a second race of humans who lived alongside us (don't any creationists mention giants, neanderthals weren't giant nor were they Nephilim, they were people). Plus the new "Hobbit" species they found.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Evolution is more logical then creationism, no? I am a sopomore, in high school, writing a paper, I need opions thank you.

Shi,
I really don't think that they are mutually exclusive. We can say that God uses evolution as a method of creation. I don't think that God would create a fossil record with evidence that dinosaurs lived and died millions of years before humans and a Bible that forces us to tell scientists that they are wrong. It just doesn't make sense that with our rational ability we would be mislead.

Here's the deal: as a Christian, I give God the glory for His creative and sustaining work in Creation. He did a good job. He gave the world the abilty to grow and change, and I see His purpose everywhere.

I have a HUGE problem with Christians who have a personal or even scholarly theology that can be negated by science. If some Christians were convinced that evolution was right, they would have to deny the faith. They think that if evolution is true, then creation cannot and the Bible is a lie. Such a view is unhealthy and is not really faith, but an insane beating against the air. Faith should be unaffected by science because it has nothing to do with science. It is higher, freer, and answers ultimate questions. Science is bound within creation, as it is a study of creation. Religion is a reflection of the divine, and for Jews and Christians, the Creator is seperate from creation and untestable.

 

[Scuba Pete]

Such a view is unhealthy and is not really faith, but an insane beating against the air.

I seem to be quite healthy, and do not beat against the air any more than the next person. While you may not understand my position, please do not portray those that do as utter idiots who deny the faith.