dust1n
Zindīq
That's right. Much like the Earth moves around the Sun.
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Evolutionists, where, geographically, did man evolve?
- Thread starter Desert Snake
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That's right. Much like the Earth moves around the Sun.
dust1n
Zindīq
That's not what the Qur'an says:
“Verily We created man from a product of wet earth; then placed him as a drop (of seed) in a safe lodging; then We fashioned the drop into a clot, then We fashioned the clot into a little lump, then We fashioned the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!” [23:12-14]
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Yes it just happened to be so and the earth rotates for day and night which just happen to be a great work.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
That is how logic works, no magic but a planned process.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
bingo. Incidentally, that is why Adam was created from clay. The clay was created first. It's a sequence of creation.
dust1n
Zindīq
Well, I would just say it happened to be so, but for the most part, sure, just like Venus, Saturn, and Neptune.
1) Nucleosynthesis in stars and supernova, creating the elements that living things are made of.
2) It's a demonstration that "inanimate stone" is a poor analogy for nature, as nature is dynamic and changing as a whole.
dust1n
Zindīq
Really? In logic, seed is encased in clay, and the clay becomes a lump of clay, and the lump of clay becomes a ball of clay, and the ball of clay becomes bones, and then you put some bones together, and then encase that in flesh (which apparently isn't made of clay, but I guess flesh comes pre-made for some reason), and then I guess just turned it into a different creation?
dust1n
Zindīq
Why would God need a sequence of creation? That's like if I had the ability to materialize a skyscraper out thin air, but decided to go ahead and meticulously construct it piece by piece anyways. What sense does that make?
psychoslice
Veteran Member
We came from the earth, it doesn't matter to me where that was, or what parts of the earth, the earth is really just one, we split it up and label the pieces.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
And don't you know that the formation of the solar system were a cloud of dust and gas.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
The logic is to make it piece by piece, do you believe a skyscraper to be constructed in 24 hours ?
dust1n
Zindīq
dust1n
Zindīq
So it relies on one piece of logic, and then what? So far, we've learned how to stack blocks to make a structure. Still not quite sure how God took clay, rolled it up into bone, slapped some flesh on it, and then turn whatever that is into a human, though. I wonder if I take a piece of seed, and do the same what would happen.
dust1n
Zindīq
Is God all-knowing and all-powerful?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Do you know that the glass is made of a liquid sand ? how it's transparent ?
dust1n
Zindīq
I do believe we are the product of nature. But at the most foundational levels, I do not know what nature is the product of. Human inquiry can get a lot of data, but it's never going to explain everything. Because we can sit here and ask an infinite number of questions, we'd spend infinity answering all of them; and we would still never be able to see what we can't possibly ever see, no matter how good technology is or how rigorous are thoughts are.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
But not magician.
dust1n
Zindīq
If you are asking why glass is transparent, you'd have to ask a chemist or someone who manufactures glass, cause I have no idea. I was trying to find the most clearly worded answer and came up with this:
Morton Tavel, a professor of physics at Vassar College, responds:
"The propagation of light (or any other form of electromagnetic radiation) through a solid is a complex process that involves not just the passage of the incident light but also reradiation of that light by the electronic structure of the solid. The convoluted combination of reflection and transmission explains why light moves more slowly through solids than through the air or through a vacuum.
"Simply stated, a solid material will appear transparent if there are no processes that compete with transmission, either by absorbing the light or by scattering it in other directions. In pure silicon, there is a very strong absorptive process at work: the incident visible light is absorbed by electrons that then move from one electron energy state to another (an occurrence technically known as a band-to-band transition). Glass, being silicon dioxide--not pure silicon--does not have this band structure, so it cannot absorb light as pure silicon does. Sand, on the other hand, is also silicon dioxide, but it is so filled with impurities that light simply scatters outward incoherently and does not pass through to a noticeable extent.
"The electronic structure of solids also explains why metals are shiny. Pure metals reflect light but do not transmit it, because they are filled with free electrons. These electrons reradiate the light in the direction opposite from which it arrived (reflection), but they interfere with the light that would proceed in the forward direction, preventing transmission."
Susan Murphree Thomas is a researcher in inorganic chemistry at the Georgia Institute of Technology and an interim faculty member at Kennesaw State University. She adds some details about the role of physical structure:
"A material appears transparent when it does not strongly absorb or diffract light. As far as the absorbance of a solid goes, you pretty much have to take what Nature gives you. Diffraction, however, can be influenced by how the material is prepared.
"A material that appears homogeneous to the human eye is really made up of minute crystals--regions in which the atoms or molecules follow a regular order. The boundaries between these regions are called grain boundaries. If the distance between boundaries is smaller than the shortest wavelength of visible light (in other words, if the refractive index of the material is uniform with respect to the light passing through it), then the material will appear transparent. Each boundary tends to diffuse the light that passes through; if the regions are small enough, however, the light waves essentially 'jump' right over them.
"Glass (which consists of silicon dioxide along with a few impurities) is not really a solid; it can be more accurately thought of as a supercooled liquid. It has no internal grain boundaries, and hence it looks transparent. Solid silicon dioxide (sand), in contrast, has obvious grain boundaries, so it is not transparent.
"It is possible to create an artificially uniform material. One way to do this is to press a material under force, as is done all the time with potassium bromide, a compound used for infrared spectroscopy in laboratories. The other way to achieve uniformity is to create lots of nucleation sites (the locations where crystals begin to form) in a melted material and then allow it to cool. Because many little crystals begin to form all at once, none of them can grow very large before they run into one another.
What determines whether asubstance is transparent? For instance, why is silicon transparent whenit is glass but not when it is sand or a computer chip? - Scientific American