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Examples of hatred and violence in the Bible

eagerotter

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Often Christians will argue that the violence attributed to their god in the Bible was justified by someone's sin or necessary for some greater purpose. When I was a Christian, I accepted this argument as well, but I was unaware of the extent of violence depicted in the Bible. After research for myself some more, I was shocked, not only at the violence in the Bible, but the outright bigotry and hatred. Here is a partial list of violent/bigoted Bible verses:
Jehova: "A Murderer and a Liar from the Beginning"

Some Christians argue that the use of violence is acceptable if it accomplishes a greater good. But this flies in the fact of the notion of a god who can do anything-if a man had to steal to get food, one would not call him "all-powerful". In the same way, if a good needed to use tremendous violence and destruction just to accomplish a single goal, one would not call him "omnipotent."

What are people's thoughts on this?
 

Brickjectivity

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Often Christians will argue that the violence attributed to their god in the Bible was justified by someone's sin or necessary for some greater purpose. When I was a Christian, I accepted this argument as well, but I was unaware of the extent of violence depicted in the Bible.
There are threads on this a-plenty, but the Bible is not in favor of violence. You have been led to a misunderstanding and sense of betrayal. While I admit the Bible has been incorporated into greedy schemes, it is to important not to slander in the way you are doing, probably by accident. You need further reading I suggest, because you are completely misrepresenting the Bible. How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Is God Violent? An Exploration from Genesis to Revelation: John Dominic Crossan: 9780062203618: Amazon.com: Books

After research for myself some more, I was shocked, not only at the violence in the Bible, but the outright bigotry and hatred. Here is a partial list of violent/bigoted Bible verses:
Jehova: "A Murderer and a Liar from the Beginning"
Nice to know that you started to research the background of Christianity, but you have not really got a good draw on what the Bible is about, yet. To deal with violence, the Bible has stories with violence in them. It does not endorse violence.
 

Rival

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That website is the last place I'd go for reliability.

Elders of Zion? Really?
 

danieldemol

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There is a sort of cultural dogma amongst some Indians that Sanskrit is the first human language.

In an attempt to justify their indocentric dogma they grab any words that sound remotely like Sanskrit words without serious study of their origins and meanings.

To me a classic example of this would be taking a Hebrew word like Satan meaning adversary and conflate it with a similar sounding Sanskrit word like Satya meaning truth, even though their etymology and meaning are seperate in reality
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
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Often Christians will argue that the violence attributed to their god in the Bible was justified by someone's sin or necessary for some greater purpose. When I was a Christian, I accepted this argument as well, but I was unaware of the extent of violence depicted in the Bible. After research for myself some more, I was shocked, not only at the violence in the Bible, but the outright bigotry and hatred. Here is a partial list of violent/bigoted Bible verses:
Jehova: "A Murderer and a Liar from the Beginning"

Some Christians argue that the use of violence is acceptable if it accomplishes a greater good. But this flies in the fact of the notion of a god who can do anything-if a man had to steal to get food, one would not call him "all-powerful". In the same way, if a good needed to use tremendous violence and destruction just to accomplish a single goal, one would not call him "omnipotent."

What are people's thoughts on this?

I think society's morality has change since the creation of the Bible. The Hebrews created a belief to unify the tribes. This was the concept of God they felt best to accomplish this at that time.

2500 years from now folks will likely find plenty of fault with our contemporary moral values.
 

Unveiled Artist

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Often Christians will argue that the violence attributed to their god in the Bible was justified by someone's sin or necessary for some greater purpose. When I was a Christian, I accepted this argument as well, but I was unaware of the extent of violence depicted in the Bible. After research for myself some more, I was shocked, not only at the violence in the Bible, but the outright bigotry and hatred. Here is a partial list of violent/bigoted Bible verses:
Jehova: "A Murderer and a Liar from the Beginning"

Some Christians argue that the use of violence is acceptable if it accomplishes a greater good. But this flies in the fact of the notion of a god who can do anything-if a man had to steal to get food, one would not call him "all-powerful". In the same way, if a good needed to use tremendous violence and destruction just to accomplish a single goal, one would not call him "omnipotent."

What are people's thoughts on this?

By christian definition of paganism and from a roman view, it's barbaric. It's barbaric in the NT to think of christ's death as a salvational tool. It's like if I killed my child (if I had one) and my children's children's on down the line think I did a good thing (since word of mouth and story are lost through time) and use that story of their sibling's death to better themselves.

Either that, or it's like killing someone to save the welfare of a nation; but, in this case, Jesus was not a threat to the people at whole he just offended the Jews and their customs. Nowadays, people do that just being on RF.

There are other ways to be saved, I'm sure god can figure out. I'm sure the "blood of christ" (like a blood of a warrior from his opponent on his knife) doesn't need to be what saves humanity. Those who believe in "the blood of christ" to me and only me it feels like using someone's death for my own benefit. Plus, I don't even know the guy.

When you talk about Christians, you are referring to jesus christ in their minds as god or have the divinity of god but not god himself. They don't separate the two. If you're just talking about the father and not jesus, it wouldn't be Christianity given they believe in the gospels on up and before the gospels are commentary to support the gospels.

I'd argue that violence (such as above) doesn't create a greater good but makes people depend on "the blood of people" rather than the life of people. In today's view, killing isn't actual death anymore but repentance. Shedding the old (shedding unclean flesh) to live a new life. It's justifying violence or death, rather, by personifying the need to follow the teachings of christ even though he isn't alive to physically save anyway.

But, yes, the bible has a lot of violence. The issue is not the bible itself. If everyone threw away their physical bible's that won't change what they believe. What they believe is causing other people suffering. It's a play on a situation that if god does not approve X we have a right to follow through on someone else's rights so X won't happen. We don't need to commit any form of violence to see the mindset of the belief.

Anyway, I can talk a lot about the politics of christianity. It's not the bible. It's the people.
 

The Holy Bottom Burp

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Often Christians will argue that the violence attributed to their god in the Bible was justified by someone's sin or necessary for some greater purpose. When I was a Christian, I accepted this argument as well, but I was unaware of the extent of violence depicted in the Bible. After research for myself some more, I was shocked, not only at the violence in the Bible, but the outright bigotry and hatred. Here is a partial list of violent/bigoted Bible verses:
Jehova: "A Murderer and a Liar from the Beginning"

Some Christians argue that the use of violence is acceptable if it accomplishes a greater good. But this flies in the fact of the notion of a god who can do anything-if a man had to steal to get food, one would not call him "all-powerful". In the same way, if a good needed to use tremendous violence and destruction just to accomplish a single goal, one would not call him "omnipotent."

What are people's thoughts on this?
Sure mate, the bible is a book containing a lot of violence, not too sure about the quality of that link you posted though, I'd say read it yourself and make your own judgement. Some might say the biblical violence reflects a violent world, there has never been a time in recorded human history when we all sat around threading flowers in each others hair. We see violence in other mammalian species, should we be surprised to see it in ours? God himself is portrayed as being pretty violent in the bible, wiping out the entire world except for Noah and his family (along with the animals he saved), and of course the bible ends in more 'glorious' violence as the world comes to an end. The reason why the biblical god is portrayed as being so fierce, in my view, is that life was very hard, and often pretty short for the people who wrote it. I think they assumed the god that was pulling all the strings must be pretty fierce and pretty angry. Pretty logical in some respects, all they had was their five senses to make sense of existence, hard life so hard god right? Many other deities from antiquity were fierce characters, you don't have to be a genius to see why.
Fast forward a few thousand years, science, engineering, and medicine has made the world a less scary place, and a more comfortable place for human beings. Guess what? The biblical god has become less scary and a bit more forgiving as well. Funny that! Almost as though he is a projection of the prevailing human psyche....
 

RabbiO

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That website is the last place I'd go for reliability.

Elders of Zion? Really?
Do you want to tell the OP, or should I, that the Joy of Satan organization, the source of the poster's "information" is proudly Nazi or do you think the poster already knows and embraces it?
 
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