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existence of god
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Francine
Well-Known Member
God is my co-pilot. But the Devil is my bombardier.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
I just lift up my eyelids.
Alpha
Defender of my faith
i totally agree...trying to sound clever, i believe that that is called the teleological argument where the beauty and splendour of the world could not have happened per chance therefore Divine intervention must have occured. William Paley was famous for this, wikipedia it if interested
Peace
Quran & Sunnah
I know for sure that there is God. I feel His presence everywhere. This whole great universe is replete with signs of the existence of God, the one God, the Creator of all.
Apparently, "God" is what some mystics call the reality perceived when the subject/object dichotomy in conscious thought abruptly ends while the continuum of experience remains. The mystics who call that experience "God" tend to come out of cultures that are dominated by the notion ultimate reality is deity. Such as cultures where the Abrahamic faiths are predominant.
Rolling_Stone
Well-Known Member
Life,
Andrew Steven Fawcett
Member
I see God, not as a person, but as a mass spiritual positive force and the Devil, not as a horned beast, but as a mass spirtual negative force.
Dunemeister
Well-Known Member
Ah, reductionism! You gotta love it!
Rolling_Stone
Well-Known Member
"Those who have witnessed the manifestation of divine or supernal realities can never again feel the old delight in bodily beauty." (Plotinus) Since it is a subjective experience experienced more intensely by some and less by others under various conditions and cultures, one can only speak for themselves. Admittedly, I "feel" (not quite the right word) the presence of the ONE only on occasion, and then in a way words cannot express.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
It's difficult to explain. I came to believe due to an intense and transformative theophany. Since then, I have had another sense in my mind, which I preceive as a sort of resonance. This resonance grows stronger when I meditate regularly, weaker when I neglect it.
Evolved1
Member
This is the puzzle I'm currently trying to work out in my head (if anyone cares...)
Is "non-existence" equivalent to "nothingness?"
If the answer is yes, then does it follow that a belief in that which does not exist is the same as a belief in nothing?
Conversely, if "non-existence" is still "something", then would a belief in that which does not exist still be a belief in something?'
Is it possible to believe in nothingness?
Evolved1
)Is "non-existence" equivalent to "nothingness?"
If the answer is yes, then does it follow that a belief in that which does not exist is the same as a belief in nothing?
Conversely, if "non-existence" is still "something", then would a belief in that which does not exist still be a belief in something?'
Is it possible to believe in nothingness?
Evolved1
Dunemeister
Well-Known Member
This is the puzzle I'm currently trying to work out in my head (if anyone cares...
Is "non-existence" equivalent to "nothingness?"
If the answer is yes, then does it follow that a belief in that which does not exist is the same as a belief in nothing?
Conversely, if "non-existence" is still "something", then would a belief in that which does not exist still be a belief in something?'
Is it possible to believe in nothingness?
Evolved1
Of course, you can play with any puzzle you like, but it's stuff like this that contributed most directly to the death of metaphysics as a respectable philosophical pursuit....
Rolling_Stone
Well-Known Member
Yes and no; or, rather, it's not necessarily an either/or situation. When many talk about Existence, the ONE, Infinity, or God as existing, what they really mean is that "it" does not belong to the catagory of non-existence and, indeed, transcends Being.This is the puzzle I'm currently trying to work out in my head (if anyone cares...
Is "non-existence" equivalent to "nothingness?"
If the answer is yes, then does it follow that a belief in that which does not exist is the same as a belief in nothing?
Conversely, if "non-existence" is still "something", then would a belief in that which does not exist still be a belief in something?'
Is it possible to believe in nothingness?
Evolved1
'Course, this probably only adds to the puzzle.
God is the reification of godliness.
I like your example.
You've prayed and nothing? could you elaborate if you don't mind revealing such a private matter.