Audie
Veteran Member
Please give example?
I encountered my share of antipathy in the, USA
but I dont think it was political in nature.
As for illegal immigration, i find the attitude of
the left to be pretty much bonkers.
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Expatriation
- Thread starter GardenLady
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I encountered my share of antipathy in the, USA
but I dont think it was political in nature.
As for illegal immigration, i find the attitude of
the left to be pretty much bonkers.
Yes. Trying to get set up with a full time job in a non-Western country.
Audie
Veteran Member
Any partivulars in mind?
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
First of all, good luck!
And yes, my wife and I have discussed the possibility of leaving the US, at least temporarily, if for example we have another Trump presidency with a Republican congress and a conservative SCOTUS. At the very least, we're likely going to move to another part of the country in the next few years, as we've grown tired of living in a very conservative area. It's gotten pretty weird and a bit dangerous. There's been quite an increase in militia stuff around here, and guys walking around town in combat gear and rifles has become disturbingly common. The Trumpists are getting increasingly confrontational.....going after school officials, small businesses that require masks, gov't officials, etc.
We wouldn't be the first to leave either. Most of our non-Trumpist friends have already left (to other parts of the US).
That place is so unfair.I'd like to go to Bhutan.
They'd never let you climb Gangkhar Puensum.
I'm totally cool with that.
Well, I'm never moving to any country with
mountains illegal to climb. I have needs!
My bathroom is on the second floor. I've climbed enough for one lifetime.
Yep. In about 15 years.
I only want the right to climb mountains.
I'm a committed flatlander.
Agree. Love it or leave it doesn't have the cache it once did.
We're American expatriates twelve years in Mexico now. It was a move for the better, and we've never regretted the trade.
Originally, it was motivated by the deteriorating American landscape, and my expectation that America was on an inexorable downward spiral where economic opportunity and the middle class were drying up, and the chances of fighting in the streets and even martial law were becoming more imminent.
Things relented a bit in the Obama years, and again now under Biden, but I see one step forward and two back hereon until America goes off the cliff and lapses into a society that works for almost nobody except a handful of predators.
I was in a conservative part of a conservative state for my last 11 years in the States, and I really came to dislike those people and their values and culture - even more these days. Some of the desire to expatriate wasn't purely practical. It was like when one comes to the point of wanting a divorce, as I did from the American right. I didn't want to live with them, I didn't want to be influenced by their voting, I didn't want to patronize their businesses (often hard to tell which those are), or pay takes that might be spent on them.
It really felt like a divorce. Yeah, I could have continued living there with these people, supporting their businesses, but I didn't want to. It would be like paying alimony, supporting people I don't like and who don't like me. That was worth something.
Now, I'm here not just because of what America is, but also because of what Mexico is. It's beautiful, the people are happy, the culture is friendly, everything grows in what looks like paradise, the prices are much lower, and the weather is perfect where we are in the mountains. How does this sound for December?:
So, even if America cleaned up its act politically, dissolved gun culture, eradicated its Republican and MAGA problem, de-weaponized religion, and somehow reversed its extreme weather trajectory, we're just not interested in returning to the States. For what?
The Republicans will be back in power, likely soon (much of the American electorate is incompetent and easily deceived; I trust them to keep making that mistake), and with it, a rapid descent into a world I don't want to be a part of. I've lost my respect and affection for America. So good luck in your decision.
This is pretty funny and apt - "I saw your act - just fluff; I can't be with anybody if I don't respect what they do.":
There are two East Asian countries that appeal to me and two Southeast Asian countries as well.
I'd like to go to Bhutan.
That would be lovely.
There are two East Asian countries that appeal to me and two Southeast Asian countries as well.
That would be lovely.
Is Bhutan on your list, too?
It as well as Nepal appeal to me, so I will probably visit them in the future. Theoretically, I could visit either one or both soon considering that I have a US passport and the funds. Due to the pandemic, they might have restrictions or may require visitors to quarantine for a while, which would make the trip not worth it.
It could happen. If you obtain a US passport, such things seem more likely.
I'd have to get 5...